The Dark Knight Script Treatment Summary?

[Crooklyn]

Get off Jett.

 

[zer00]

Yeah, since I'm sure Jett knows alot about what TDK's story is .

Could be real, could be fake, as far as I'm concerned.

But

but

but he's the reason BB got made!

 

[gillberg2k1]

Just had the chance to pop in and this caught my attention.

Some great ideas here, but regardless, I can confirm that niether of those summaries are accurate.

 

[Crooklyn]

Maybe you'd like to chime in with the "right" info on the script..

 

[Avernus]

one little side not I'd like to add...

I'd expect Murphy to return for at least 1 picture because he was never caught....they would have thrown that in at the end..

I don't think they'll have a loon like that just skip town and vanish...

 

[comic_guy04]

I like where this franchise is goin with villian cameos. It reminds me of the sale and loeb bat-world, and I suspect that in the third movie there will be a two face and "freaks" gang story.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

Yeah, since I'm sure Jett knows alot about what TDK's story is .

Could be real, could be fake, as far as I'm concerned.

Boom - apart from ragging on Jett, which is horribly fashionable of you, I have one complaint about your post.

Where did I say Jett knew anything about the story of TDK, let alone a lot? I did not. I simply said that what he does know about TDK, he has not even told us. Several times he has prepared to tell us stuff and then has backed off on it. It's the reason people are fed up with him right now.

I don't think it's because he doesn't know anything. I think it's because WB has lawyers all over his ass and have turned him into a puppet. They liked BOF because it gave them a chance to hear what the fans thought. But now they've turned around and begun controlling BOF and all the other fansites.

If you don't think that's true, then riddle me this: What happened to the script review that Latino Review said they would have up? Why did this potential news that Miranda found get turned down by AICN? Why do we have NO official word on who the Dent candidates are, despite hearing repeatedly that "none of them are conventional"?

WB is playing "control the press" here. George Lucas did it during Episode III. All of a sudden the websites which had been so revealing of information in the past - theforce.net, for instance - were suddenly useless, and the REAL news - all of it accurate, I might add - came from new upstart, underground websites like millenniumfalcon.com, run by Fatboy Roberts and his team of ninja spies.

This is what WB is doing now. I'm sure of it. If we get any spy reports on The Dark Knight they are not going to come through Latino Review, BOF, or even SuperHeroHype!... oh no. My friends, we are being snowed.

Mark my words.

Merry Christmas to all - unless you celebrate something else.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

Just had the chance to pop in and this caught my attention.

Some great ideas here, but regardless, I can confirm that niether of those summaries are accurate.

Heya, gill... I wonder... since you know these summaries are not accurate, why not tell us what you DO know? This IS the Spoiler forum, after all...

Let us hear all about it.

No?

Whyfore?

 

[Boom]

Boom - apart from ragging on Jett, which is horribly fashionable of you, I have one complaint about your post.

Where did I say Jett knew anything about the story of TDK, let alone a lot?

Uh, I never did accuse you .

 

[Keyser Sushi]

Uh, I never did accuse you .

Sorry, Cap'n, it looked like your post was a response to mine.

If it was not, then, you know... kindly disregard what I said.

 

[Boom]

Sorry, Cap'n, it looked like your post was a response to mine.

If it was not, then, you know... kindly disregard what I said.

No need to apologize.

Sorry for the confusion.

And Merry Christmas to you as well .

 

[Keyser Sushi]

No need to apologize.

Sorry for the confusion.

And Merry Christmas to you as well .

Thanks. Sorry for jumping to conclusions.

 

[Miranda Fox]

Heya, gill... I wonder... since you know these summaries are not accurate, why not tell us what you DO know? This IS the Spoiler forum, after all...

Let us hear all about it.

No?

Whyfore?

I agree with Keyser. I remember you made the comment about the Joker being more Arkham Asylum-ish...can you elaborate a little? *pleading look*

Merry Christmas, everyone!

 

[COMPO]

Merry Chrimbo, Miranda. And a happy new year.

 

[Miranda Fox]

Merry Chrimbo, Miranda. And a happy new year.

Thanks. You too!

 

[gillberg2k1]

What I've been hearing has shot down the credibility of those who posted the summaries. That's all.

The right people have said that those summaries are false and not an accurate representation of what, if anything at this point, is out there. Why? Anyone speculating or claiming to know whats actually going on at this point (including those whom people blindly follow and think are "in the know") is full of it.

The whole team on this thing wants you and every other news group, website, and rumor mill to know absolutely nothing. For one, its a part of the fun, and two, much like a magic trick, if they show you how its done and give you a peek to early, they blow their entire frame/angle for the film and destroy what theyre working for.

Having said that. There's nothing out there. If there is, its outdated by this point, as I know they're still extensively rewriting and prepping for a large, stressful production.

What I know is that The Joker character is not what you're used to. He's not like the TAS version, or a camped up counterpart. Much like Batman was "rethought" in certain ways, so will the Joker. He's intense, he's mean, and he's psychotic.

 

[Miranda Fox]

What I've been hearing has shot down the credibility of those who posted the summaries. That's all.

The right people have said that those summaries are false and not an accurate representation of what, if anything at this point, is out there. Why? Anyone speculating or claiming to know whats actually going on at this point (including those whom people blindly follow and think are "in the know") is full of it.

The whole team on this thing wants you and every other news group, website, and rumor mill to know absolutely nothing. For one, its a part of the fun, and two, much like a magic trick, if they show you how its done and give you a peek to early, they blow their entire frame/angle for the film and destroy what theyre working for.

Having said that. There's nothing out there. If there is, its outdated by this point, as I know they're still extensively rewriting and prepping for a large, stressful production.

Fair enough. I *do* understand what Nolan is doing but from a purely grasping fan perspective it is a little...frustrating. However, I went in to BB having only watched the trailers (I was spoiled by idiot IMDB users, but that is another story) and I feel the experience was greatly heightened because of that. I was awestruck. I'd very much like to repeat that experience.

What I know is that The Joker character is not what you're used to. He's not like the TAS version, or a camped up counterpart. Much like Batman was "rethought" in certain ways, so will the Joker. He's intense, he's mean, and he's psychotic.

Thanks for answering my question. I appreciate it.

Sounds good. As long as the re-thinking isn't taken too far, of course.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

What I've been hearing has shot down the credibility of those who posted the summaries. That's all.

And yet you can't say what you've heard?

The right people have said that those summaries are false and not an accurate representation of what, if anything at this point, is out there. Why? Anyone speculating or claiming to know whats actually going on at this point (including those whom people blindly follow and think are "in the know") is full of it.

I don't doubt that, but it still feels as though we're being snowed. I've seen it before. I remember the taste.

The whole team on this thing wants you and every other news group, website, and rumor mill to know absolutely nothing. For one, its a part of the fun, and two, much like a magic trick, if they show you how its done and give you a peek to early, they blow their entire frame/angle for the film and destroy what theyre working for.

Absolutely. I would expect nothing less. But even so, why haven't we heard any Dent candidates? Obviously they are considering some people at this point. They may not be near a final decision but even so, there has to be some consideration happening.

Having said that. There's nothing out there. If there is, its outdated by this point, as I know they're still extensively rewriting and prepping for a large, stressful production.

Outdated information is more fun to talk about than nothing at all. Which is what we've mostly had lately. No-thing.

What I know is that The Joker character is not what you're used to. He's not like the TAS version, or a camped up counterpart. Much like Batman was "rethought" in certain ways, so will the Joker. He's intense, he's mean, and he's psychotic.

And that's hardly news to anyone with half a brain. Interesting, though.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

Fair enough. I *do* understand what Nolan is doing but from a purely grasping fan perspective it is a little...frustrating. However, I went in to BB having only watched the trailers (I was spoiled by idiot IMDB users, but that is another story) and I feel the experience was greatly heightened because of that. I was awestruck. I'd very much like to repeat that experience.

You're stronger than I am, lady. I've been a spoiler hound since the Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition days. I'm incurably addicted, now. It doesn't ruin the experience for me. Just because I know some of what's going to happen, it doesn't change the joy of seeing it well-executed onscreen.

Thanks for answering my question. I appreciate it.

Seconded.

Sounds good. As long as the re-thinking isn't taken too far, of course.

I don't think we need to worry about that. Their "re-thinking" of Batman resulted in a surprisingly faithful and muscular (literally and figuratively) rendition of the Dark Knight. If re-thinking the Joker means presenting the essence of this character in a powerful new way, then, hell, I don't think there's anything to fear.

 

[gillberg2k1]

And yet you can't say what you've heard?

That's right. Because I've heard nothing of real substance. What I have heard is simply information that destroyed the credibility of those who submitted the summaries in question. Therefore, I can confirm that they are false.

Honestly, guys, this one's pretty tight lipped, and more so than Begins was. Superman Returns was a totally different story, there was stuff going around as soon as Singer jumped on board, and it was easy to tell what he was up to.

What I do know is that while things are certainly relaxed on the production, they're also being very careful with everything to keep it contained. At this point what's known is what's already been pointed out: It's different, it's darker, it's a bit more chaotic/intense, and it's really pushing the boundaries of the "reimagining" of the Batman we met in 2005. But above all else, it's about the characters and story. This will be the "Empire Strikes Back" of the series.

Other than that, even people close to the production know very little at this point. Less so than the Begins production. It doesn't mean there's anything to worry about, they're just being overly cautious. So anything that's out there that isnt extremely detailed, or credible (coming straight from the team) isn't worth your time. Give it another month or two, once screenplays have circulated among the team, you'll hear more and you can start taking these lame rumors a bit more seriously.

As for Dent, that's an interesting topic. Dent, as far as I know, isn't being thought of as a huge character in the film, and therefore, casting is going to be held off until the last minute to help get media attention once the film starts shooting. (Since they're doing some initial shots/perhaps some teaser stuff next month, I'd expect late Jan- early Feb to hear about a decision). This, of course, is pretty obvious if you pay attention to the facts out there and don't let the mostly false rumors cloud your judgment. The character is being treated more like the Fox role in Begins, as it's a nice role with some investment into future films, but it's not the largest character in the film. They will need a big name and a strong resume to help add some star power to the next installment, hence the "aiming high." Obviously theyre looking ahead to the big Two-Face pay off for part 3.

I hope that helped clear some things up for everyone.

 

[Crooklyn]

he character is being treated more like the Fox role in Begins, as it's a nice role with some investment into future films, but it's not the largest character in the film. They will need a big name and a strong resume to help add some star power to the next installment, hence the "aiming high." Obviously theyre looking ahead to the big Two-Face pay off for part 3.

Man, if that's how things end up, I will be extremely disappointed on that front. Dent is a character that needs to be fleshed out in as many films as possible, before he turns. I already thought he got shorthanded by not appearing in BB, but if he gets crappy ass screentime in TDK as well, they've seriously missed a big opportunity.

Thanks for the info though. Keep us posted.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

That's right. Because I've heard nothing of real substance. What I have heard is simply information that destroyed the credibility of those who submitted the summaries in question. Therefore, I can confirm that they are false.

Have you ever considered running for senate?

Honestly, guys, this one's pretty tight lipped, and more so than Begins was. Superman Returns was a totally different story, there's was stuff going around as soon as Singer jumped on board, and it was easy to tell what he was up to.

Which is what I've been getting at, though I did not, perhaps, phrase it so gently.

What I do know is that while things are certainly relaxed on the production, they're also being very careful with everything to keep it contained. At this point what's known is what's already been pointed out: It's different, it's darker, it's a bit more chaotic/intense, and it's really pushing the boundaries of the "reimagining" of the Batman we met in 2005. But above all else, it's about the characters and story. This will be the "Empire Strikes Back" of the series.

All of which I was (and remain) glad to hear. But it's damned little.

Other than that, even people close to the production know very little at this point. Less so than the Begins production. It doesn't mean there's anything to worry about, they're just being overly cautious. So anything that's out there that isnt extremely detailed, or credible (coming straight from the team) isn't worth your time. Give it another month or two, once screenplays have circulated among the team, you'll hear more and you can start taking these lame rumors a bit more seriously.

Of course. But I do suspect that much of the news is going to come through the backdoor, and I don't just mean sites like the Hype! or BOF, or LR. I mean real backdoor sites. Because if they're being this tightlipped, then hell. I mean, you're basically doing what Jett does, here: You're saying, "I know what is or isn't true, but I'm not saying how I know." I realize you guys have to protect your sources. But it is mildly frustrating on this end.

As for Dent, that's an interesting topic. Dent, as far as I know, isn't being thought of as a huge character in the film, and therefore, casting is going to be held off until the last minute to help get media attention once the film starts shooting. (Since they're doing some initial shots/perhaps some teaser stuff next month, I'd expect late Jan- early Feb to hear about a decision). This, of course, is pretty obvious if you pay attention to the facts out there and don't let the mostly false rumors cloud your judgment. The character is being treated more like the Fox role in Begins, as it's a nice role with some investment into future films, but it's not the largest character in the film. They will need a big name and a strong resume to help add some star power to the next installment, hence the "aiming high." Obviously theyre looking ahead to the big Two-Face pay off for part 3.

Exactly. Which is why it's more likely to be Denzel Washington than Liev Schrieber for Dent... regardless of the size of the role in TDK, he will be a major player in BB3, and, as you say, they'll want star power behind Two-Face. Again, we all know this, or at least those of us with functioning grey matter do. I can't speak for all the Hypers.

Nolan and co. still have to have some idea of the type of actor they're going after. Are they really looking to cast a non-honkie as Dent? Why can't we at least get some kind of definitive statement about that? Something that will silence the "OMG but teh Dentz is wyte!!!!!!!111111on1!!!!" crowd, for pity's sake!

I hope that helped clear some things up for everyone.

Clear as muddy water, my good man.

But I do have to say, I appreciate your taking the time to speak to us down here in the dungeon... it's been especially ugly here as of late. I think we're all ready for some news.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

Man, if that's how things end up, I will be extremely disappointed on that front. Dent is a character that needs to be fleshed out in as many films as possible, before he turns. I already thought he got shorthanded by not appearing in BB, but if he gets crappy ass screentime in TDK as well, they've seriously missed a big opportunity.

Thanks for the info though. Keep us posted.

Doesn't it sort of depend on some things? Such as

A.) the QUALITY of Dent's screentime in TDK
B.) the amount of time he has in BB3 pre-scarring
c.) if they keep him alive at he end of BB3?

I'm sure there's more but those at least have to count for something.

 

[Crooklyn]

A.) the QUALITY of Dent's screentime in TDK

If he gets short scenes in the film, akin to Fox in BB, I see no possible way of fleshing out the character in the way he deserves. Sure, the time he gets might be nice, but quantity goes along with quality.

B.) the amount of time he has in BB3 pre-scarring

Which takes away time from his post-scarring. That's one of the major reasons why the character literally should be split among multiple films. It's 2 totally different people.

c.) if they keep him alive at he end of BB3?

Won't matter, I doubt if there's a Nolan-directed BB4, Two-Face will have any significant role.

 

[Maxwell Smart]

^But I want him to have 90% of BB3 as Two-Face, not half or something like that.

Dent with a smaller amount of screen time=laaaaaame. I was envisioning a TLH-esque story in which the partnership of Gordon, Dent and Bats is the backbone of the narrative. What gilberg said seems to dispell that notion though. Me no likey.