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I know this is 4 years too late but I didn't know the proper place to put it honestly so I decided to put my thoughts here. I remember during season 8 and 9 claiming that Clark being more proactive and joining the Daily Planet was a "lightswitch". I remember one poster saying that "S7 to s8 he went from moping around on the farm as college drop out Clark with no direction to his life to suddenly, Daily Planet Reporter saving lives as The Red Blue Blur!!! That's a lightswitch. And having Green Arrow, one of the more cynical and anti-hero's of the DC comics give the future Superman lessons and lectures on being a hero???? That goes a long way to show how wrong this series has Superman and his younger self. " , " The writers of SV have Clark progress and then backslide constantly in order to keep the show going...thats not good writing and makes the character come off as stupid.
He sat on the farm for 7 seasons moping around for lana wishing he could be normal, whining, showing NO interest in journalism being nothing but a reactive hero and suddenly, he gets a job at the DP and is zooming around proactively saving people as the Blur in S8. That's lightswitch.", etc.
Watching every episode in the series, paying close attention to seasons 5-8 I was thinking about season 6/7 Clark and what led to what him being more proactive season 8 and if it really was a lightswitch that some people claim or not:
Season 6:
Fallout"
Clark: Mom, I know how much you love me, and how much dad... But I've always felt different. Its because I am. And Raya was the first person I ever met who could really understand that. And I don't think I ever really thought about what I lost. A family, a whole race of people, who were just like me. For the first time, I'm ready to stop running from who I really am, from my destiny.
The death of Raya who helped shined a light on a people he never really knew that much about so he was accepting his training but first he had to take care(which he even had to make priority even with problem with Lana and Lex. See "Rage" for example) of the Prisoners who escaped from the Phantom Zone. He was even willing to join the proto-Justice League to take down Lex's 33.1 bases if it wasn't for the phantom zone escapees and Lana upcoming nuptials with Lex as well as his lone wolf attitude which he had at times.
Season 7
Bizarro:
Martian Manhunter: You've learned a lot from your time in Smallville. These people have made you who you are.
Clark: They won't always be here. Losing Lana has made me realize no matter how close I get, someday they'll all be gone. And all the time I've spent ignoring my destiny, trying to be something I'll never be: human.
Loosing Lana twice(the marriage to Lex and her "Dying") made him realize his flaws and he was ready to do his training which acording to Fortress Jor-el was watch Kara but when Lana came back and he wanted to have a normal life but even then he was focused on the mission which was finding the blue crystal before Kara and then he met his Kryptonian mother and incidentally lost his powers. He was proactive in a way but not on a season 6 or 8 level of proactive hero because of Lana.
Season 8
Odyssey:
Martian Manhunter: The healing effect of the sun brought you back from death. I promised Jor-El that I would only be a watchful guardian. But I could not stand by and let you die.
Clark: You shouldn't have had to.
Martian Manhunter: Jor-El knew he was sending you on an impossible odyssey. To be given the power of a god, yet exist among humans.
Clark: Sometimes I feel like I need to be two separate people. Either way, I can't keep expecting you to keep saving me.
Martian Manhunter: Well that was the last time. The burning sun may strengthen you, but it has the opposite effect on me. It stripped me of my powers. We both know, that yours is a greater Destiny But with the fortress destroyed, you'll have to do it without Jor-El's guidance.
Clark: Or anyone else's. When I was dying, I saw my dad, he was right there in front of me. I saw my mom and Lana, they were there too. So close, it was like I could reach out and feel them. I've written eulogies, I've seen people walk away from me. But I've never really said goodbye, I've been holding onto a life on this farm that hasn't existed for years.
Martian Manhunter: So what are you going to do?
Clark: Let it go. It's the only chance I have of finding a new one.
It was similar yet different to what happened in season 6 and 7 when Clark lost Lana (her not realizing Bizarro was Clark, her camatouse caused by Brainiac and her break up video among other reasons) only with season 8 she left for a longer time than she did in the previous three seasons.
-seeing what a world without Clark Kent would be like
-Kara being lost or dead somewhere(Phantom Zone)
-JL (or just Aquaman and Black Canary) basically disbanding and going underground since some LexCorp employees found out their identities so Clark couldn't really join them
-Realizing that every father figure he had(Lionel Luthor season 5-7, Jor-el and Jonathan Kent) died protecting his secret and alot of people sacrificed themselves to help him on his journey.
-Chloe loosing her job at the Daily Planet and almost her life and being arrested by the DDS. With Chloe not working at the Planet anymore and Lex technically not in charge of the Planet anymore new proactive Clark needed to find a way to learn about information to help prevent crime and disasters from happening so he chose to join the Planet to be closer to the news.(similar to Andrea Rojas reasoning in "Vengeance":
Chloe: That's why you work here, isn't it?Because nothing happens in Metropolis without going through the Daily Planet.
Andrea: Way to put the pieces together, Brenda Starr.
"Arctic":
Lois: Big news. An intern just got promoted to Chloe's old desk.
Clark: Am I supposed to be happy that someone took my best friend's job?
Lois: Absolutely. 'Cause it opens up a spot in the bullpen, and guess whose name is written all over it. Clark Kent. Got your application right here.
Clark: [ Chuckles ] That's never gonna happen. Now, if you would excuse me, I have chores to do.
Lois: Seriously, Clark, don't you think you're destined for greater things in life than working on a farm?
Clark: Even if I wanted the job, Lois, I'd never work for Lex Luthor.
"Plastique":
Clark: Well, that's why I'm there -- so I can be around to help more people. Working at the Daily Planet, I'll hear about every crisis as it happens. I just wish that you were there with me. You know, now that Lex isn't running things...
)
Okay admittedly Clark wasn't that interested in working as a reporter for the Daily Planet(Fade, Arctic) and I don't know how he got the job the first(maybe use the secret origin and earth one route ) but even though he had the Daily Planet job and enjoyed it he still viewed it as a means to an end and viewed his Superhero life and saving people as more important(doomsday to Metallo, Hostage proved that) and he started off as a
reporter/copy boy and only did obituaries and bylines with Lois.
-The lost of his powers and being stuck in a Russian camp for weeks.
-His former best friend/worst enemy finding out about his powers and disappear somewhere knowing who he is
-The Fortress was destroyed thanks to him worrying about Lana's coma and not being more active in pursuing the Veritas keys leading to the Fortress so he couldn't really complete his Kryptonian training (but when he did when he recreated the Fortress when he takes down Doomsday he'll take up his training again just like he said in season 6 with the Zoners and he did in both at the beginning of season 7 as well in season 9).
-Clark since freshman always wanted either a normal life, find a way to not hide who he is since season 1 to 7 and admitted the way he felt in season 8 through "Odyssey ", " Plastique ", " Prey", "Identity", "Infamous", "Turbulence", etc. Clark's season 8 personality to me was largely the same as his personality(we especially seen it when early season 10 Clark meets 30 year old fully Superman Clark and when Clark met/lost Lana in season 8 ) he only decided to be more proactive. He decided to take it even farther in season 9 by completing his Kryptonian Training and wear the House of El symbol not only as a way of accepting his Kryptonian heritage/destiny, remind himself that he has a different destiny than others and use it as a symbol of hope(in a way Clark wasn't lying when he said the Blur was the true identity in "Masquerade" because not only has he been saving people since he was young he embraced the hero life whether he wanted to admitted it or not and his reporter life was in a way always the mask and the way he acted in season 5-9 about embracing his alien/hero life you and thinking he wasn't human and he should stop pretending to be one, yes Clark was as much the mask as much as he was the real identity
- working in the Russia for weeks without talking or seeing to his friends
-His near death experience seeing his parents and Lana realizing he was holding onto something that didn't exist for years.
-Martian Manhunter lost his powers to save Clark's life made him realize:
A. He was holding on to a life that hasn't existed for years so when Lana disapeared that was basically a way for him to stop wishing being normal as well as living a normal life on Smallville(the rest of that thinking disappeared in episodes like Odyssey, Plastique, Hex, Doomsday, Savior, Homecoming, etc in season 8-10) away and ready to start his training and be more proactive but when Lana came back in his life(Action, Fierce and Power-Requiem are a few episodes proving my example) he still wants to have a normal life on the farm or as a reporter. When Clark sent Zod back to the Phantom Zone, he spent the whole episode unseen helping the clean up of Metropolis. When Lana married Lex he was fighting meteor infected beings and stopping criminals. When Lana was presumed Dead and he took care of the last Zoner/Bizarro, went after Lex in rage and went to complete his Kryptonian training at the Fortress which part of it was to take care of and watch Kara until Lana came back leading him to want a normal life.
B. He realized he let Lex get the veritas keys instead of doing more to stop him which could have prevented alot of what happened including the destruction of the Fortress
C. Clark should have done more and can't expect someone/Martian Manhunter or the JL to save his life when he made a mistake(Martian Manhunter loosing his powers)
and this could be seen similar to JLA: The Nail/JLA: Another Nail Superman whose Amish parents were killed because of Jimmy which he blamed himself for which lead him to become more proactive and started to become superman or any comic where Clark decided to accept being a hero be it the death of someone close to him, learning his alien heritage or an alien invasion in Earth One and Birthright, Clark in It's Superman novel, etc.
In conclusion: it wasn't really a lightswitch but just a prolonging of what could have happened in season 6 or 7.
Sorry for long post. What are your thoughts on this? Any dispute or anything to add. I want to hear your opinion about Season 7-8 Clark character growth and becoming more Superman like."
He sat on the farm for 7 seasons moping around for lana wishing he could be normal, whining, showing NO interest in journalism being nothing but a reactive hero and suddenly, he gets a job at the DP and is zooming around proactively saving people as the Blur in S8. That's lightswitch.", etc.
Watching every episode in the series, paying close attention to seasons 5-8 I was thinking about season 6/7 Clark and what led to what him being more proactive season 8 and if it really was a lightswitch that some people claim or not:
Season 6:
Fallout"
Clark: Mom, I know how much you love me, and how much dad... But I've always felt different. Its because I am. And Raya was the first person I ever met who could really understand that. And I don't think I ever really thought about what I lost. A family, a whole race of people, who were just like me. For the first time, I'm ready to stop running from who I really am, from my destiny.
The death of Raya who helped shined a light on a people he never really knew that much about so he was accepting his training but first he had to take care(which he even had to make priority even with problem with Lana and Lex. See "Rage" for example) of the Prisoners who escaped from the Phantom Zone. He was even willing to join the proto-Justice League to take down Lex's 33.1 bases if it wasn't for the phantom zone escapees and Lana upcoming nuptials with Lex as well as his lone wolf attitude which he had at times.
Season 7
Bizarro:
Martian Manhunter: You've learned a lot from your time in Smallville. These people have made you who you are.
Clark: They won't always be here. Losing Lana has made me realize no matter how close I get, someday they'll all be gone. And all the time I've spent ignoring my destiny, trying to be something I'll never be: human.
Loosing Lana twice(the marriage to Lex and her "Dying") made him realize his flaws and he was ready to do his training which acording to Fortress Jor-el was watch Kara but when Lana came back and he wanted to have a normal life but even then he was focused on the mission which was finding the blue crystal before Kara and then he met his Kryptonian mother and incidentally lost his powers. He was proactive in a way but not on a season 6 or 8 level of proactive hero because of Lana.
Season 8
Odyssey:
Martian Manhunter: The healing effect of the sun brought you back from death. I promised Jor-El that I would only be a watchful guardian. But I could not stand by and let you die.
Clark: You shouldn't have had to.
Martian Manhunter: Jor-El knew he was sending you on an impossible odyssey. To be given the power of a god, yet exist among humans.
Clark: Sometimes I feel like I need to be two separate people. Either way, I can't keep expecting you to keep saving me.
Martian Manhunter: Well that was the last time. The burning sun may strengthen you, but it has the opposite effect on me. It stripped me of my powers. We both know, that yours is a greater Destiny But with the fortress destroyed, you'll have to do it without Jor-El's guidance.
Clark: Or anyone else's. When I was dying, I saw my dad, he was right there in front of me. I saw my mom and Lana, they were there too. So close, it was like I could reach out and feel them. I've written eulogies, I've seen people walk away from me. But I've never really said goodbye, I've been holding onto a life on this farm that hasn't existed for years.
Martian Manhunter: So what are you going to do?
Clark: Let it go. It's the only chance I have of finding a new one.
It was similar yet different to what happened in season 6 and 7 when Clark lost Lana (her not realizing Bizarro was Clark, her camatouse caused by Brainiac and her break up video among other reasons) only with season 8 she left for a longer time than she did in the previous three seasons.
-seeing what a world without Clark Kent would be like
-Kara being lost or dead somewhere(Phantom Zone)
-JL (or just Aquaman and Black Canary) basically disbanding and going underground since some LexCorp employees found out their identities so Clark couldn't really join them
-Realizing that every father figure he had(Lionel Luthor season 5-7, Jor-el and Jonathan Kent) died protecting his secret and alot of people sacrificed themselves to help him on his journey.
-Chloe loosing her job at the Daily Planet and almost her life and being arrested by the DDS. With Chloe not working at the Planet anymore and Lex technically not in charge of the Planet anymore new proactive Clark needed to find a way to learn about information to help prevent crime and disasters from happening so he chose to join the Planet to be closer to the news.(similar to Andrea Rojas reasoning in "Vengeance":
Chloe: That's why you work here, isn't it?Because nothing happens in Metropolis without going through the Daily Planet.
Andrea: Way to put the pieces together, Brenda Starr.
"Arctic":
Lois: Big news. An intern just got promoted to Chloe's old desk.
Clark: Am I supposed to be happy that someone took my best friend's job?
Lois: Absolutely. 'Cause it opens up a spot in the bullpen, and guess whose name is written all over it. Clark Kent. Got your application right here.
Clark: [ Chuckles ] That's never gonna happen. Now, if you would excuse me, I have chores to do.
Lois: Seriously, Clark, don't you think you're destined for greater things in life than working on a farm?
Clark: Even if I wanted the job, Lois, I'd never work for Lex Luthor.
"Plastique":
Clark: Well, that's why I'm there -- so I can be around to help more people. Working at the Daily Planet, I'll hear about every crisis as it happens. I just wish that you were there with me. You know, now that Lex isn't running things...
)
Okay admittedly Clark wasn't that interested in working as a reporter for the Daily Planet(Fade, Arctic) and I don't know how he got the job the first(maybe use the secret origin and earth one route ) but even though he had the Daily Planet job and enjoyed it he still viewed it as a means to an end and viewed his Superhero life and saving people as more important(doomsday to Metallo, Hostage proved that) and he started off as a
reporter/copy boy and only did obituaries and bylines with Lois.
-The lost of his powers and being stuck in a Russian camp for weeks.
-His former best friend/worst enemy finding out about his powers and disappear somewhere knowing who he is
-The Fortress was destroyed thanks to him worrying about Lana's coma and not being more active in pursuing the Veritas keys leading to the Fortress so he couldn't really complete his Kryptonian training (but when he did when he recreated the Fortress when he takes down Doomsday he'll take up his training again just like he said in season 6 with the Zoners and he did in both at the beginning of season 7 as well in season 9).
-Clark since freshman always wanted either a normal life, find a way to not hide who he is since season 1 to 7 and admitted the way he felt in season 8 through "Odyssey ", " Plastique ", " Prey", "Identity", "Infamous", "Turbulence", etc. Clark's season 8 personality to me was largely the same as his personality(we especially seen it when early season 10 Clark meets 30 year old fully Superman Clark and when Clark met/lost Lana in season 8 ) he only decided to be more proactive. He decided to take it even farther in season 9 by completing his Kryptonian Training and wear the House of El symbol not only as a way of accepting his Kryptonian heritage/destiny, remind himself that he has a different destiny than others and use it as a symbol of hope(in a way Clark wasn't lying when he said the Blur was the true identity in "Masquerade" because not only has he been saving people since he was young he embraced the hero life whether he wanted to admitted it or not and his reporter life was in a way always the mask and the way he acted in season 5-9 about embracing his alien/hero life you and thinking he wasn't human and he should stop pretending to be one, yes Clark was as much the mask as much as he was the real identity
- working in the Russia for weeks without talking or seeing to his friends
-His near death experience seeing his parents and Lana realizing he was holding onto something that didn't exist for years.
-Martian Manhunter lost his powers to save Clark's life made him realize:
A. He was holding on to a life that hasn't existed for years so when Lana disapeared that was basically a way for him to stop wishing being normal as well as living a normal life on Smallville(the rest of that thinking disappeared in episodes like Odyssey, Plastique, Hex, Doomsday, Savior, Homecoming, etc in season 8-10) away and ready to start his training and be more proactive but when Lana came back in his life(Action, Fierce and Power-Requiem are a few episodes proving my example) he still wants to have a normal life on the farm or as a reporter. When Clark sent Zod back to the Phantom Zone, he spent the whole episode unseen helping the clean up of Metropolis. When Lana married Lex he was fighting meteor infected beings and stopping criminals. When Lana was presumed Dead and he took care of the last Zoner/Bizarro, went after Lex in rage and went to complete his Kryptonian training at the Fortress which part of it was to take care of and watch Kara until Lana came back leading him to want a normal life.
B. He realized he let Lex get the veritas keys instead of doing more to stop him which could have prevented alot of what happened including the destruction of the Fortress
C. Clark should have done more and can't expect someone/Martian Manhunter or the JL to save his life when he made a mistake(Martian Manhunter loosing his powers)
and this could be seen similar to JLA: The Nail/JLA: Another Nail Superman whose Amish parents were killed because of Jimmy which he blamed himself for which lead him to become more proactive and started to become superman or any comic where Clark decided to accept being a hero be it the death of someone close to him, learning his alien heritage or an alien invasion in Earth One and Birthright, Clark in It's Superman novel, etc.
In conclusion: it wasn't really a lightswitch but just a prolonging of what could have happened in season 6 or 7.
Sorry for long post. What are your thoughts on this? Any dispute or anything to add. I want to hear your opinion about Season 7-8 Clark character growth and becoming more Superman like."
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