Season 6, Episode 7 "The Broken Man" Discussion Thread

[Fist of Khonshu]

Maybe he wants one personality to destroy the other in order to see which one is stronger.

And the personalities are in different bodies in different locations, ok!

 

[Fist of Khonshu]

you guys are kidding right??? This has to be a joke

She was stabbed, and the knife was twisted... if its some insanely ignorant twist like she was hiding a ribeye in her shirt, then this show has gone beyond the word of '****'.

Spoiler

Armor:

It's obvious from the giant bulge in her jerkin.

 

[Charlatan]

Armor:

Spoiler

It's obvious from the giant bulge in her jerkin.

No there could be a chainmail shirt under all that which would stop penetration. the stomach and skin would push back ,the meat (and no not a roll of ground beef in a plastic tube but something akin to a slab of meat like a roast to make it feel like you cut someone's abdominal muscles and on the outer layer the bag of blood and then that jacket. look at that gif. do you not see what appears to be something around her waist?

 

[Reek]

Arya Stark when she returns to Westeros

 

[Reek]

No there could be a chainmail shirt under all that which would stop penetration. the stomach and skin would push back ,the meat (and no not a roll of ground beef in a plastic tube but something akin to a slab of meat like a roast to make it feel like you cut someone's abdominal muscles and on the outer layer the bag of blood and then that jacket. look at that gif. do you not see what appears to be something around her waist?

Dude, come on. She's obviously not dying, but was clearly stabbed twice. she just kept up the charade for minutes afterwards? stumbling instead of running?

here comes the "she has this planned to lure the waif to her" excuse... fine take it... if that's the case than Arya's story is by far the worst. I'd rather watch more of the Sand Snakes.

 

[Fist of Khonshu]

well scratch that... they've made Aryas story so boringly stupid... it probably is a hidden ribeye

Do you like any of the main characters' arcs?

I've enjoyed most of Arya's time there, the mysterious nature of the Faceless Men and the House of B&W and I particularly loved the Braavos Chainsaw Massacre on Meryn Trant! You can't say that was boring! But I think it's gone on a little too long, and I'm anxious for her to get back to Westeros.

 

[Reek]

 

[Reek]

Do you like any of the main characters' arcs?

I've enjoyed most of Arya's time there, the mysterious nature of the Faceless Men and the House of B&W and I particularly loved the Braavos Chainsaw Massacre on Meryn Trant! You can't say that was boring! But I think it's gone on a little too long, and I'm anxious for her to get back to Westeros.

I like the North. that's about it. Essos as a whole has been dog ****... Kings Landing is boring as hell...

So i have good reason not to like some of the arcs. They ruined Theon/Reek which is arguably the best bits of writing GRRM has ever done.

And we are talking about season 6... Meryn Trant was in season 5. so not sure where you are taking this. are you going to start whining and calling me a dumb ass now lol

 

[Fist of Khonshu]

No there could be a chainmail shirt under all that which would stop penetration. the stomach and skin would push back ,the meat (and no not a roll of ground beef in a plastic tube but something akin to a slab of meat like a roast to make it feel like you cut someone's abdominal muscles and on the outer layer the bag of blood and then that jacket. look at that gif. do you not see what appears to be something around her waist?

That blade is six inches long and buried to the hilt! Chainmail is not going to elongate that far inward and there's not that much room either. She has a skinny trunk, she definitely got poked.

And no, there is not a bulge to account for mail and beef! LMAO!

The idea of her expecting an attack against the guts and not the chest, heart, neck, or eyes is still beyond ludicrous.

 

[Fist of Khonshu]

And we are talking about season 6... Meryn Trant was in season 5. so not sure where you are taking this. are you going to start whining and calling me a dumb ass now lol

Not even! Just wondering, man.

And you mentioned "Arya's story", I assumed you meant her current arc in Braavos which started in Season 5. Season 6 just continues that, it's not a separate segment, like her time with the Hound.

 

[Fist of Khonshu]

You forgot her meat helmet, Reek!

 

[Marvolo]

Yes they've sparred with quarterstaves, nothing else, and the Waif has had her number in every fight.

But this isn't a sparring situation, it's anticipating an assassination, and the intestines are not a sure bet. People can recover from knife or gunshot wounds there. I personally knew someone who survived a shotgun blast there.



I think it may be relevant in the sense that things and people aren't necessarily what they appear, not in that scene, perhaps not in this latest scene either, nor even in the previews.

Remember that Arya is living in a time before antibiotics and modern surgery. She doesnt have the advantages that the person you know had. In medieval times a splinter could cause an infection that could kill a person and thats not an exageration. Even in modern times infection is one of the number one killers in america. A ruptured, burst, or cut intestine causes septicemia and multiple organ damage and failure and it begins as soon as the intestine is cut open. And there is the possibility that part of the intestine has to be removed to fix the damage and save the person's life. Considering where Arya was cut, part of her large intestine would have to be either removed or sown up. Her bladder would have likely been pierced. And there is the possibility that her female reproductive organs would have been damaged.

Arya has no access to antibiotics, proper surgery, or emergency facilities. In short, she would die an excruciating awful death. Either from internal blood loss or severe infection or shock.

In the world Arya lives in, and barring magical or divine interference, what the Waif did would be a sure bet.

 

[Reek]

meat helmet? MEAT HELMET?!?!!? SHE DOESN'T EVEN HIDE HER FACE!

 

[Roose Bolton]

Arya's childhood was typical: summers in Rangoon ... luge lessons ... In the spring, they'd make meat helmets and when she was insolent she was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds.

 

[Fist of Khonshu]

 

[Fist of Khonshu]

Remember that Arya is living in a time before antibiotics and modern surgery.

In the world Arya lives in, and barring magical or divine interference, what the Waif did would be a sure bet.

Well they do have magic or different healing arts.

I would disagree that ALL intestinal wounds were 100% fatal before modern medicine, but the chance of infection in this instance is indeed rather high. Braavos is essentially an analog to Venice and in like manner its waterways are probably an open sewer!

But this is all beside the point that an assassin looking for a guaranteed kill will target the heart ( and also puncturing the lungs) or the neck, not the guts.

 

[godisawesome]

Admittedly, a meat mask would have been more safe than just walking around like she did...I mean she'd be easily identifiable, but at least the waif would have to decide "Ok, I'm going to pursue the person mocking all vegetarians, since she's the best lead I have on Arya."

So far, this season's biggest problems have primarily been that you can tell when the writers feel pressure, and they speed through stuff that either has logical fallacies, like someone parkour img after being stabbed in the stomach and dumped in filthy water, or disappointing takes on source material, like throwing the Umbers wholly into the Bolton alliance, or dropping any political subtlety to set up an underdog scenario for Winterfell. This season, everything feels a little smaller because people need to be places, and right now!

Which further emphasizes why it's likely the Hound has an important, multi-season role ahead of him. They gave him more screen time than Arya, one if the few definable main characters on the show, to make sure we saw that the Hound is changed. He's still angry, but it's not berserk desperation and bloodlust driving him now; it's righteous fury. The closest thing the Lannisters ever produced to a true knight is moving closer to being an actual application of that trope in the world of Westereos.

They gave him that time to make it clear that from now on, when Sandor kills, it's someone who needs killin'.

 

[Charlatan]

looks to me like something is under that shirt and it has a definite edge to it

 

[Fist of Khonshu]

That's just a wrinkle, like the one above it:

 

[Reek]

 

[Fist of Khonshu]

 

[Victarion]

I've liked Jaime since season three. Does he count as a main?

 

[Roose Bolton]

On the show I've only liked Jaime in Seasons 3 & 4.

 

[Reek]

same... thought i liked him at the riverlands last episode.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Do you like any of the main characters' arcs?

I've enjoyed most of Arya's time there, the mysterious nature of the Faceless Men and the House of B&W and I particularly loved the Braavos Chainsaw Massacre on Meryn Trant! You can't say that was boring! But I think it's gone on a little too long, and I'm anxious for her to get back to Westeros.

It's dragging. It really is.