Season 6, Episode 7 "The Broken Man" Discussion Thread

[Schlosser85]

Sansa's letter...

http://imgur.com/a/p2mfe

That's actually pretty impressive sleuthing.

 

[BestGirl]

Yeah, considering that the writers on the show seem eager to push Ramsay Bolton further up the atrocity meter leads me to suspect the worst for her.

Oh my God, that thought had not even occurred to me. Now I will live in daily fear of it coming to pass. If Lyanna were to be killed that would be the most this show has upset me since Shireen.

 

[Thundercrack85]

So, do people like live in the Vale? All it seems to be is that castle, and the crazy tribes around it.

 

[Reek]

there is a town i believe.

 

[Charlatan]

 

[Matt]

That's actually pretty impressive sleuthing.

I'll say. The language that sticks out to me is "you shall be rewarded." Not a smart promise to make to Littlefinger as I am sure he will collect the debt. Could Sansa become Lady Baelish by the end of the season? If so, I fear for Rickon's safety.

So, do people like live in the Vale? All it seems to be is that castle, and the crazy tribes around it.

The Vale is basically the entirety of the Northern East Coast of Westeros. It is probably the third largest of the Seven Kingdoms. According to the Wiki of Ice and Fire (which cites to the officially published Game of Thrones resource book), the Vale is capable of raising approximately 45,000 soldiers.

It is also important to consider that the Vale is the only one of the Seven Kingdoms that has not been swept up in The War of the Five Kings and the turmoil surrounding it (Dorne also, based on the books, but not in the show). In the context of the show, the Iron Islands suffered heavy losses in the war and is in a state of political unrest due to a coup. The North is falling apart under the reign of the Boltons and suffered all kinds of losses from Robb's failed rebellion. The Westerlands have been in total disarray since Tywin's death and suffered heavy casualties in the war, same with the Crownlands. The Riverlands (which already suffered a ton of casualties by taking part in Robb's war) is currently under siege, fighting a civil war against Walder Frey and what is left of the Lannister's army. The armies of the Stormlands were crippled by Tywin at the Battle of Blackwater Bay and what was left was wiped out by Roose's army when Stannis attempted to invade the North. The Tullys/the Reach suffered losses in the War of the Five Kings by supporting and fighting alongside the Lannisters. Beyond that, the future leader of their house is being held prisoner by religious extremists and they are facing conflict with both the Faith Militant and the Lannisters. Finally, Dorne just suffered a violent coup d'etat and is in a state of political upheaval.

The only region that has maintained neutrality and whose armies are healthy, full, and well-supplied are those of the Vale. Beyond that, the Vale's armies are comprised of natural warriors who are well equipped to handle fighting in the winter due to the fact that the Vale is a rugged, mountainous terrain. They are used to adverse conditions. The Vale is currently the strongest force in the Seven Kingdoms...just as Baelish intended when he poisoned Jon Arryn, set all of the other houses against one another, and manipulated his way into control of the Vale.

 

[Victarion]

I would look the other way if anyone wanted to take Littlefinger out back and shank him.

 

[Reek]

Littlefinger is one of the best characters on the show.

 

[Victarion]

Sansa's like, "I need a big guy."

 

[Brother Jack]

Every character could be killed with only Lyanna Mormont remaining and I think I would be perfectly happy. She's that wonderful.

I've never met a Mormont I didn't like. That includes Jorah, who I think is a really interesting character.

 

[godisawesome]

I've never met a Mormont I didn't like. That includes Jorah, who I think is a really interesting character.

I sometimes think they didn't put the other Mormont ladies in the show for fear that Hoise would then overshadow every other Northern Household. I mean, little Miss Badass is awesome for the TV viewers, but can you imagine what they'd think of Maege "I'm not saying she stole Tormund, but he does claim to have slept with a bear, and her daughters are pretty Giantsbane-y" Mormont? Or her daughters, who are apparently capable of being proper ladies while wrenching a mace out of someone's skull?

 

[Victarion]

I was wondering if Maege had made it or not. So many great side characters left untouched.

 

[DACrowe]

That's actually pretty impressive sleuthing.

Wow, that is shockingly well done. I hope the reward involves a sword through the heart, but we shall see.

 

[Reek]

don't know what she could reward him with... he has so much already... I suppose she could give him the Dreadfort or Karhold

 

[Fist of Khonshu]

He would probably like to marry her!

He has Harrenhal, and basically the Vale since he controls Robyn. He has an agreement with the Crown (through Cersei) to gain control of the North once Stannis and the Boltons are defeated, and Sansa is killed or delivered to King's Landing.

That's not going to happen now, but if he can secure a military pact with the North then he can take the Riverlands, and they will eagerly help since that's under Walder Frey and they have a score to settle! Then he'll probably feel that he has enough to take King's Landing and seize the Iron Throne for himself.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I was wondering if Maege had made it or not. So many great side characters left untouched.

Maege and Alysane would both have to be dead for Lyanna to be head of the House.

 

[Iceman]

Can Littlefinger go all the way?

 

[Reek]

Yes and he will.

 

[Fist of Khonshu]

Oh and I forgot Dorne. Maybe we'll see Littlefinger teleport to Sunspear next and coordinate with Ellaria.

 

[Golgo-13]

I thught Arya being stabbed was a dream sequence at first..it seemed so surreal and brutal…..

 

[Iceman]

Yes and he will.

And then he'll start manipulating the Night's King to get control of the White Walker army. The 7 kingdoms is not enough.

 

[Golgo-13]

Ian McShane's character had the shortest show run for a major actor cast...

 

[Fist of Khonshu]

I thught Arya being stabbed was a dream sequence at first..it seemed so surreal and brutal…..

And that's actually one of a number of different theories out there trying to explain what we saw.

 

[Iceman]

Probably going to be something like that.

 

[Golgo-13]

And that's actually one of a number of different theories out there trying to explain what we saw.

I like the 'Fight Club' theory, where 'Waif is actually Arya's split personality.