The Walking Dead Season 7 Episode 16 "The First Day of the Rest of Your Life" Discussion Thread

[Filmfan93]

in the end Sasha's death was meh for me, never cared for her enough alive to warrant feeling sad at her loss.

You could have put spoiler tags on this. I decided to come here and read general opinions on the finale before seeing it and people usually put spoiler tags when discussing major stuff on each individual episode thread.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

[BLACKOUT]Can anyone tell me what Negan said when he saw Maggie?[/BLACKOUT]

[BLACKOUT]"The widow is alive guns a'blazing. Taste that Simon? That is the taste of ****!"[/BLACKOUT]

From what I could tell...

 

[Art Vandelay]

What was the point of this season?

 

[Sawyer]

This was a good one, IMO. Just wish it didn't take an entire goddamn season to get here.

 

[Sithborg]

What was the point of this season?

Make that advertising $$$. Seriously, AMC is just letting them do whatever they want, because for every minute they add, they can get 2 more of commercials. It is really hurting the show. This is like Peter Jackson doing whatever he wants.

 

[nyyarod]

This episode was so lackluster. I was bored for the first half and the second half with the trash women was predictable.

 

[Havok83]

thank god this awful season is finally over

I will say I liked the ending. Did not expect to Sasha turned and attack Neegan

 

[Art Vandelay]

Biggest disappointment this season has been Carol. She did virtually nothing this season. She sat around her house, read, did some gardening, and then decided to join the fight. But when the finale came around, she was just another face in the crowd. How weird is that?

 

[Elevator Man]

The subpar battle felt rushed, imo. Aside from Michonne and Rosita there weren't any major casualties from either side. Most of the battle we're shown characters shooting at people off camera. Making it seem like everyone (aside from Carol) were lousy shots. I didn't feel any tension. I wasn't expecting much from the battle but it still ended up being lackluster.

Negan also came off like a buffoon when they became outnumbered and had to fallback. I want to see Negan get his comeuppance but I was kind of embarrassed for him in that battle. I know he was bewildered by the communities (he thought were under his thumb) joining forces against him, but he seemed less formidable.

Michonne could've easily taken down that junkyard woman. This is the same woman who went mano a mano with the Gov. and almost killed him during the midseason finale of Season 3. I wasn't convinced about Michonne having difficulty restraining that woman. My brother revealed to me that another character shared that moment in the comics. [BLACKOUT]No wonder Gimple's been adding this particular character's traits (hooking up with Rick, becoming Carl's surrogate mother, and evolving into a sharpshooter) to Michonne b/c this character's show counterpart was killed off four seasons ago.[/BLACKOUT]

One moment I appreciated was when Enid gave Maggie back her heirloom/Glenn's pocketwatch. Enid wasn't worthy of it, imo. Hopefully Maggie can give it to her unborn child whenever he/she becomes a certain age.

 

[carrrnuttt]

I did enjoy this finale, but I did have one question for my wife when Shiva started attacking people: "How does she know who the bad guys are?"

I mean, I can understand Shiva not attacking anyone from The Kingdom team, but she doesn't know most of the Alexandria and Hilltop crews.

 

[Kane52630]

Probably my 2nd favorite episode of the season (with the first still being my favorite). Overall though, it's been pretty lackluster of a season.

 

[Elevator Man]

@ carrrnuttt I noticed that too. The writers expects us to believe that Shiva has a tiger sense and is able differentiate between who is and isn't a savior.

Also somehow Ezekiel knew Jadis and co. betrayed Rick and co. b/c he shouted out something about the Saviors and his accomplices when he arrived just in the nick of time to save Carl and Rick.

Aside from the Junkyard groups wardrobe and the members of the Kingdom on horseback and wearing body armor there wasn't much to distinguish the ASZ from the Hilltop or Saviors from one another. So it was a miracle that those particular communities didn't shoot or kill anybody on their side as well.

 

[Leenie]

My favorite episode of this season was most definitely the season premiere. Easily.

My second favorite episode of the season would be the midseason finale, and so I guess that the finale would be my third favorite.

 

[BH/HHH]

So the wooden soldier at the end, did Dwight leave that?

 

[Drizzle]

I did enjoy this finale, but I did have one question for my wife when Shiva started attacking people: "How does she know who the bad guys are?"

I mean, I can understand Shiva not attacking anyone from The Kingdom team, but she doesn't know most of the Alexandria and Hilltop crews.

That's what I was thinking too. There's literally no explanation for that haha

So the wooden soldier at the end, did Dwight leave that?

Yeah. I think "Didn't know" meant that he didn't know about the deal the trash people had with Negan.

 

[BH/HHH]

That's what I was thinking too. There's literally no explanation for that haha

Agreed on this too, I literally laughed when she kept in attacking them.

Yeah. I think "Didn't know" meant that he didn't know about the deal the trash people had with Negan.

Ah thanks. Kinda convenient how he just had that on him

 

[Havok83]

My favorite episode of this season was most definitely the season premiere. Easily.

My second favorite episode of the season would be the midseason finale, and so I guess that the finale would be my third favorite.

pretty much the season in a nutshell. Most of the other episodes between the milestone episodes were filler. 16 episodes? This season could have been condensed into 8 and been much stronger

 

[BH/HHH]

pretty much the season in a nutshell. Most of the other episodes between the milestone episodes were filler. 16 episodes? This season could have been condensed into 8 and been much stronger

Agreed, there were several episides where I felt they could have cut the content down and had them in one episode rather than across two or three.

 

[Drizzle]

For starters, this season's premiere could have been last season's finale.

 

[carrrnuttt]

@ carrrnuttt I noticed that too. The writers expects us to believe that Shiva has a tiger sense and is able differentiate between who is and isn't a savior.

A way they could have done this is showing Ezekiel pointing specific people out to Shiva, but they didn't bother. It would have taken seconds of screen-time, but would have explained a lot.

Also somehow Ezekiel knew Jadis and co. betrayed Rick and co. b/c he shouted out something about the Saviors and his accomplices when he arrived just in the nick of time to save Carl and Rick.

Another one they could have easily taken a few seconds to explain by having a quick scene showing either Ezekiel's or Maggie's crew see the betrayal as it happens.

I mean, I'm sure that's what did happen off-screen, but it would have been easy to just add a quick scene to show it happening.

 

[FunkMiller]

That 16 episode season could have easily been told in 6. Maybe even 4 at a push.

But go Shiva!

 

[Sawyer]

I see less issue with Shiva's attacks than with how the humans knew who to attack. Shiva saw a group of people surrounding a father and son who were about to be killed. I can buy that.

But for everyone else it was too damn chaotic for me to believe there wasn't friendly fire all over the place.

 

[Kane52630]

This got me pumped... for Game of Thrones.

 

[Sawyer]

Probably my 2nd favorite episode of the season (with the first still being my favorite). Overall though, it's been pretty lackluster of a season.

Premiere, midseason finale, midseason premiere, Morgan gets his murder groove back and the finale were solid to me, but the whole approach to this season has been bizarre. I honestly think they could've taken us further along into the narrative than they did. We didn't need this many 2-3 character episodes, isolated to a single location. We didn't need this much navel gazing. After the big deaths, I would've expected them to hit the ground running, but...

I'm just praying they don't drop the ball after last night's finale. No more of this slow-paced "Things are crazy right now, but lets go on a run that takes the whole ep so we can talk about where our heads are at" s***. Focus on character is great, but we get it.

 

[Sawyer]

You could have put spoiler tags on this. I decided to come here and read general opinions on the finale before seeing it and people usually put spoiler tags when discussing major stuff on each individual episode thread.

That... was unwise.