Shane Black Directing Predator Sequel! - Part 1

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Actually, I enjoy 3D... Sue me! :cwink:
More so when the movie is shot with 3D cameras and not converted. Although the conversion process is much better these days.
Must say that I enjoy the 3D experience more at home as I can adjust all the settings to get the picture quality I want. Especially the brightness, which can be an issue at the cinema.
 
I heard a rumour we might get a teaser at comic con. Predator is the sort of movie that would go down there.
 
I'd hope so. The movie is due out September.
 
Hope this is a worthy sequel and maybe Fox will release a 4K restored blu of the original movie and it's sequel.
 
I'm sure the teaser will be sooner than that and they'll debut the final trailer at Comic Con.
 
It's one of these guy's who claims to work at trailer cut companies, no one official hence I didn't link it to anyone. Drizzle I think you're probably more correct that we'll get a trailer before SDCC.
 
Jackman's composing. :csad:

****ing yawn.

What's wrong with Jackman? His score for The Winter Soldier is awesome, and while his score for Civil War didn't live up to that, it was still pretty good. His score for X-Men: First Class wasn't bad either.
 
Still inferior scores to Alan Silvestri for Avengers and The First Avenger.
 
Wish they had brought Silvestri back! :csad:

Henry Jackman should do fine, though!
 
Still inferior scores to Alan Silvestri for Avengers and The First Avenger.

Sure, but that doesn't mean Jackman is a bad composer. Even if they had approached Silvestri about Predator, he was probably too busy between Ready Player One and Infinity War.
 
I would say Jackman's work is adequate. I thought his work for Civil War and Winter Soldier was decent but not especially great or memorable.
 
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Sure, but that doesn't mean Jackman is a bad composer.


He's not a bad composer. He's just a bland, boring, totally generic one whose stuff sounds like every other modern composer out there.

Yeah, Silvestri's doing Avengers, you're not going to get Silvestri. But man, at least get someone with that old, traditional sound. Yeah, the original movie has some weird experimental sounds to it, but overall it's still in that classic feel. You just know this one's going to be that lame mix of orchestra & electronic Zimmer-y shiz Jackman tends to pull in everything.
 
I don't mind Jackman one bit - I mean I liked his scores for Winter Soldier, Wreck It Ralph and Kong:SI.
 
I would say Jackman's work is adequate. I thought his work for Civil War and Infinity War was decent but not especially great or memorable.

I am going to assume you mean The Winter Soldier. Because Jackman is not doing IW.
 
He's not a bad composer. He's just a bland, boring, totally generic one whose stuff sounds like every other modern composer out there.

I have to say, I could not believe Winter Soldier score was composed by a professional composer. I know it sounds harsh and no disrespect to anybody involved but...

First off, if you like that score, ok, nothing wrong with that.

...but, I think it's horrendous. Maybe I was listening to some old Williams, Goldsmith and Horner stuff too much but after that it's so painful to listen to TWS OST. The harmonies are totally basic or even missing. There's literally zero horizontal development, can this composer even modulate? The evolution through orchestration is nonexistent. It's all so generic. Some uninspired spiccati patterns we've heard a bazillion times with some ever repeating electronic loops put through a stutter-effect while the structural arc of the pieces goes nowhere, he just layers things or replace them to develop the piece, puts them in the octaves to make it sound it's moving to finale. No outstanding melody. Nothing. Freshman students after their first year can *compose* better music.

Again, if someone likes it, ok. Some samples and loops sound really cool, but speaking of composition, it's... not even basic to put it mildly compared to the whole history of the film scoring. Even the s**ttiest TV shows from 60's and 70's had way superior music to this.

Maybe they wanted to be very minimalistic and stuff but that does not prevent composer from coming up with cool ideas and themes, nor that lowers his composing skill set.

In the end, it's a combination of things. A lot of modern composers (quite frankly like all of them) are far from the level of Herrmann, Korngold, Steiner, Williams, Goldsmith, etc. The movies are more haphazardly cut with way faster editing so there's not much room for the music to breathe or be fluent. Directors are not musically educated either so they don't have any points of reference when it comes to music other than "make it sound like Batman and Inception". :funny: I'm making some generalizations and exaggerations here, but you get the point.


But just look at the original Predator score, to be more in-topic. That score is not overly complicated, the structure is very simple actually, far from Williams' pieces, but the themes are fantastic, memorable, and that Silvestri's beloved tritone chord progression sounds so badass here. The melody lines are haunting and flavorful. Majority of non-orchestral sounds are some old synth patches yet it sounds so good. It's all quite simple, but far from bland, boring and generic, all the stuff the Winter Soldier soundtrack is.
 
The actual Hydra-Bucky theme is awesome, the industrial NIN/Ministry-esque thing. Fits perfectly. And the melody of whatever track was in the end credits of TWS is fine, it's decent. He just kills it all with the actual arrangements and recording style, all of his stuff sounds so thin.

The best parts of his TWS score are honestly the softer museum scene stuff. And even that just reeks of him trying to sound like what Silvestri was doing in TFA for some continuity, too.
 
Alan Silvestri's Judge Dredd theme (block war) is epic.
 
Alan Silvestri's Judge Dredd theme (block war) is epic.
There's a lot of movies from the 1990s that are legitimately bad movies, but the film scores are like A+. Judge Dredd is one. I'd say The Shadow is another.
 
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