Shane Black Directing Predator Sequel! - Part 2

Singer's prior history of allegations not withstanding, but I think he was fired from Bohemian Rhapsody for not showing up to set. Not for allegations.


Correct, he basically he did not show back after the production's Christmas vacation time and so was fired for tardy timekeeping, nothing to do with alleged allegations that rest with him currently.
 
Wow. Did you just play the, "what were you wearing" card? Really?

Did you miss the part where she specifically wanted the choice, or are you just going to keep blaming the woman for what these men did?

I did, so her choice is clearly ok with given she did a full 2 hour movie under his direction at a time the allegations were very public. How can she be ok with filming xmen but not with this? Atleast be consistent with the outrage
 
Correct, he basically he did not show back after the production's Christmas vacation time and so was fired for tardy timekeeping, nothing to do with alleged allegations that rest with him currently.
That is definitely what they said, and while the timing is pretty convenient, apparently Singer has a long history of drinking, drugging and productions suffering because of it.
 
I did, so her choice is clearly ok with given she did a full 2 hour movie under his direction at a time the allegations were very public. How can she be ok with filming xmen but not with this? Atleast be consistent with the outrage
Well one, this registered sex offender was convicted.

Two, thank you for admitting that you actually used that classic victim blaming tactic. It puts all your post into really not perspective.

Three, not that it matters, but Singer is gay. If you argument is based around the idea that she has to be in fear of being assaulted on set, that wouldn't be an issue here. Again, not that it matters, but it seems to matter to you.
 
Well one, this registered sex offender was convicted.

Two, thank you for admitting that you actually used that classic victim blaming tactic. It puts all your post into really not perspective.

Three, not that it matters, but Singer is gay.

So because hes gay its ok she did a full 2 hour movie as nothing more then eye candy with 5 lines by a director who has sexual assualt allegations on young boys?

So your saying its ok on xmen because the predator in question is gay but not here because the predator is straight? Double standards I guess in hollywood. Again be consistent on all this sexual predator stuff or not at all.

You cant pat her on the back here and not call her on xmen.
 
So because hes gay its ok she did a full 2 hour movie as nothing more then eye candy with 5 lines by a director who has sexual assualt allegations on young boys?

So your saying its ok on xmen because the predator in question is gay but not here because the predator is straight? Double standards I guess in hollywood. Again be consistent on all this sexual predator stuff or not at all.

Difference: Singer has allegations against him. No convictions. She also was given the chance to meet with Singer, and maybe when she met with him she heard enough of his side of the story to feel comfortable. Either way, she was granted a CHOICE to work for Bryan Singer. But in this situation, she was forced to do a scene with this guy with no say in the matter. This guy also didn't have allegations, he was convicted. Your example doesn't hold up.
 
So because hes gay its ok she did a full 2 hour movie as nothing more then eye candy with 5 lines by a director who has sexual assualt allegations on young boys?

So your saying its ok on xmen because the predator in question is gay but not here because the predator is straight? Double standards I guess in hollywood. Again be consistent on all this sexual predator stuff or not at all.
Do you know the difference between allegations and actual convictions?

I only brought up Singer being gay because you can't seem to stop bring up how Munn looked in the film. As if what she was wearing mattered. Which is gross and such an obvious attempt, I don't know how you think continuing to write about is a good idea.
 
I didn't read that as the reason. I'm seeing that some just don't want to make a public statement and or talk about it during interviews.
Well that's really tough **** IMO, they have to promote the movie and life is full of things we don't want to do, you don't just get to skip out, none of these guys are even stars, they are a bunch of b listers acting like hot ****.

Which I do not agree with. People these days are too fast to jump to conclusions. The way I see it the other cast members were simply not interested in turning their back on Shane Black. Which, considering her comments about how she was upset that they gave Black a standing ovation at the TIFF screening, is exactly what she's expecting.
And quite frankly, I wouldn't have turned my back on him, either. Let's put the forks back down for a minute and consider the many shades of grey that come with such a situation. Them not siding with Munn does not mean they're passively condoning it. It's not a "you're either with or against Olivia Munn & her cause" type of situation.
There are no shades of grey here, this isn't a case of jumping to conclusions, the man is a registered sex offender with documented proof that he had innappropriate relations with a 14 year old and tried to lure her into sex, that is a FACT, and Black knew it, anyone really believing a man of his savvy who has been around this long didn't know can come buy a bridge in Brooklyn off me.

He basically took liberties and rightfully is getting called out for it, I don't expect nerds at fan conventions or film festivals to not still kiss his ass because we've seen with people like Tarantino and numerous sports stars that you can be a piece of **** and still get love if you entertain some people. The cast hung Munn out to dry like cowards, siding with a guy that gave a registered sex offender work and tried to keep it under the radar, now they are on their little twitter machines trying to cover their ass, the only one with a legit excuse that I can see is Sterling K Brown as he was not actually booked to appear.

Correct me if Im wrong but didnt she just 2 years ago work for bryan singer of all people in a sexually revealing outfit Who has very public allegations for years? He was just got let go by fox mid filming bohemian rhapsody for allegations to boot. But a 2 minute scene with a registered sex offender is over the line? Why isnt she speaking out against singer as well? If its because she had a choice she still comes off as a hypocrite.
No, to be a hypocrite Singer would have had to be actually convicted of a crime, otherwise she is as the dude above you wants to preach, "jumping to conclusions"......The guy here is a registered child molester that she was put in close quarters with, without knowing what a piece of filth he is, that is abuse of trust by Black no matter how you try to slice it, and have you ever thought that two years ago when she worked with Singer women were still afraid to come out and put these pieces of **** on blast? Now the platform is there, things have changed a lot in that timeframe as well, yet you continue this ugly course of victim blaming and trying to cast a negative light on a woman who is standing up for something right and saying she is making it about her career, you wouldn't be saying this if Charlize Theron was the one doing it, it is merely that Munn is an easy target because she's a poor actress, and didn't you say you didn't want to talk about this anymore? You left it yesterday but then slipped back in when there was an opening to take another shot at Munn being a hypocrite or whatever you are trying to paint her as to justify complaining about the rightful ****storm raining down on Black and the guys in this film.
 
Difference: Singer has allegations against him. No convictions. She also was given the chance to meet with Singer, and maybe when she met with him she heard enough of his side of the story to feel comfortable. Either way, she was granted a CHOICE to work for Bryan Singer. But in this situation, she was forced to do a scene with this guy with no say in the matter. This guy also didn't have allegations, he was convicted. Your example doesn't hold up.

So when signer gets convicted someday does what I said change magically? Allegations like singers are no different then spaceys but yet hes condemed too. It holds just the same convicted or not. If she stands by her concivtions on this subject then even allegations should give pause too regardless if true or not on who she works with. The old where theres smoke theres fire holds true.
 
Do you know the difference between allegations and actual convictions?

I only brought up Singer being gay because you can't seem to stop bring up how Munn looked in the film. As if what she was wearing mattered. Which is gross and such an obvious attempt, I don't know how you think continuing to write about is a good idea.

There is a difference but both involve sexual assault so even if they cant prove singer its still ok?
 
I was probably going to see this Thursday, but I think I have decided to go see Searching instead. Not sure if I will see this theatrically at this point.
 
So when signer gets convicted someday does what I said change magically? Allegations like singers are no different then spaceys but yet hes condemed too. It holds just the same convicted or not. If she stands by her concivtions on this subject then even allegations should give pause too regardless if true or not on who she works with. The old where theres smoke theres fire holds true.
So it is Olivia Munn's fault that Shane Black cast someone he knew was a sexual predator in his films without informing anyone else, including Munn, because she wore a outfit you found skimpy one time in a movie directed by Bryan Singer. Okay.
 
So when signer gets convicted someday does what I said change magically? Allegations like singers are no different then spaceys but yet hes condemed too. It holds just the same convicted or not. If she stands by her concivtions on this subject then even allegations should give pause too regardless if true or not on who she works with. The old where theres smoke theres fire holds true.

If Singer gets convicted someday, no it changes nothing about the decision Munn made in 2016. It would change decisions made about him from that point of his hypothetical conviction onward. Again, I am sure she met with Singer before doing that X-Men film. Look at Woody Allen, plenty staunchly believe he is innocent. Maybe he talks a good game, I don't know. But no her decision to work with someone who has no convictions by choice is not equal to being forced to work with someone was WAS convicted. No matter how you try to spin it, it just isn't equal.
 
I was probably going to see this Thursday, but I think I have decided to go see Searching instead. Not sure if I will see this theatrically at this point.
I am right there with you. Beyond it being the Predator, Shane Black was one of my favorite directors before this. So yeah.
 
Oh my, the bandwagon jumping......
Are your forks ready? Yeah?
 
I dont care if its olivia munn or meryl streep, convictions or allegations if you choose to work with someone that has questionable backgrounds or claims lobbied against them you need to take a step back and say do I really want to place my name in the same movie as this person whether its true or not? Black Is in bad light too here I will say for the record
 
If Singer gets convicted someday, no it changes nothing about the decision Munn made in 2016. It would change decisions made about him from that point of his hypothetical conviction onward. Again, I am sure she met with Singer before doing that X-Men film. Look at Woody Allen, plenty staunchly believe he is innocent. Maybe he talks a good game, I don't know. But no her decision to work with someone who has no convictions by choice is not equal to being forced to work with someone was WAS convicted. No matter how you try to spin it, it just isn't equal.
The thing here is Munn is being very specific. She simply wanted the ability to make an informed decision. To pay her that simple respect. And Shane knows it was wrong, which is why he hid it over multiple productions.

I really hope Time's Up and the MeToo Movement stay strong. Because I feel like the general reaction by Black and the cast here, shows why they are necessary. How it seems that too many people in this industry and ready to slip back into the old ways.
 
I dont care if its olivia munn or meryl streep, convictions or allegations if you choose to work with someone that has questionable backgrounds or claims lobbied against them you need to take a step back and say do I really want to place my name in the same movie as this person whether its true or not? Black Is in bad light too here I will say for the record
Yet you seem to only care about Munn and continue to defend the actions of Black and others. Why?
 
So it is Olivia Munn's fault that Shane Black cast someone he knew was a sexual predator in his films without informing anyone else, including Munn, because she wore a outfit you found skimpy one time in a movie directed by Bryan Singer. Okay.


No its blacks fault on this one %100 for dropping the ball but Munn better speak out against singer as well for working under him during xmen as well for allegations of the same type of crap. Be consistent with all this outrage and not just oh well its just allegations so that gets a pass.
 
I am right there with you. Beyond it being the Predator, Shane Black was one of my favorite directors before this. So yeah.

I am a fan of the franchise as well. I honestly have only seen IM3 of the films Black has actually directed, so I cannot claim he is my favorite director or anything. But this whole controversy has sort of rubbed me the wrong way. There was much better ways to handle this then by basically lighting a dumpster fire.
 
No its blacks fault on this one %100 for dropping the ball but Munn better speak out against singer as well for working under him during xmen as well for allegations of the same type of crap. Be consistent with all this outrage and not just oh well its just allegations so that gets a pass.
Why? Does that change what Black did?

Also, you do realize Munn would be extra sensitive to this entire situation, considering what Ratner did to her, right?
 
I honestly have only seen IM3 of the films Black has actually directed, so I cannot claim he is my favorite director or anything.


All the current controversy not withstanding, if you can get past his behavior with this you should rectify this part immediately. :)

Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang is goddamn incredible, and The Nice Guys was really impressive too.
 

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