Shane Black Directing Predator Sequel! - Part 2

[Aximili86]

I kind of read that as with most surgeons it wasn't an option, there was some sort of delicacy to the injury that only this Chinese guy was uber-competent enough to do. Like some shrapnel injuries any surgeon could fix, but Tony's was especially severe or something?

 

[Spider-Fan]

I kind of read that as with most surgeons it wasn't an option, there was some sort of delicacy to the injury that only this Chinese guy was uber-competent enough to do. Like some shrapnel injuries any surgeon could fix, but Tony's was especially severe or something?

I think that was what they intended to explain, but the problem is they never did it explain it. So it plays as Tony just woke up one day and said "I can just have surgery to remove this!" randomly. That's the issue. I think there are scenes involving that Chinese surgeon that were filmed, and I want to say ended up in the Chinese cut, but that doesn't change how awful it plays out in the current cut of the movie.

 

[Aximili86]

Yeah, from memory there was some whole sub-plot intended to woo the Chinese market that they slashed, not sure what it actually entailed though.

 

[Marvolo]

I get that. But the entire 2nd film is built around the reactor in his chest is killing him. He also was dying in the first movie from his wound. He also was drinking that same chlorophyll drink in the 1st movie, which tells me the issue with his blood being poisoned was something he was aware of being possible even then. Why didn't he, you know, just get it removed? When it was killing him and he knew it? It just makes Tony seem absurdly stupid if that was an option.

It does give the impression that Shane doesnt much worry about the films that precede his films or the films that follow his films. He just does what he wants to regardless of whether it makes sense in the continuity of the franchise.

 

[DarkKnight88]

 

[Prettyricky]

Watching behind the scenes on the predator costume and there are a lot
Of shots that are from the original ending with the 2 predators in camo and also a shot of the main predator wearing a blueish cape at some point in the film. Im more curious now to see the other ending

 

[Neno_Kos]

The movie had so much potential if you cut half of it. The kid, the suit at the end, predodogs, whole hybridization. If you just had normal predator hunt another predator with plot he was going rouge giving humanity a gift aka "cloaking device" movie would be just fine. But too much crap and unnecessary stuff thrown into a wall. And nothing sticks. Nothing is even good idea.

 

[moviedoors]

It does give the impression that Shane doesnt much worry about the films that precede his films or the films that follow his films. He just does what he wants to regardless of whether it makes sense in the continuity of the franchise.

Good. Serve the film in front of me, not the one that doesn't exist yet.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Good. Serve the film in front of me, not the one that doesn't exist yet.

But what about the ones that do exist already?

 

[Nathan]

Watched a number of clips on youtube, and god is the Upgrade CGI atrocious. It seemed fine during those few seconds you saw him in the Trailers, but when he was in full view and moving, you could really tell how bad the CGI and body movement was.

 

[moviedoors]

But what about the ones that do exist already?

Depends on the context. There's a more concrete coloration there since at least the prior film actually exists. As far as the blood poisoning goes and it getting excised in Iron Man 3, if that made the pace work better, than good. I love Iron Man 3 and I've never even thought about that aspect of the plot, and it won't be ruining the movie for the next time I watch it either.

 

[Marvolo]

I finally watched this and oh boy this was a film created by a dumb committee. There are more than a few smoking guns.

1. The pitbull. (Gorgeous Pit by the way) When the Pit first appeared I was afraid the dog would try to attack the boy and be killed by the predodog. Thankfully that didnt happen and then I thought the dog would try t odefend the boy. That didnt happen. The dog just kinda disappears. Then later its shown running towards the main characters and it's done in a way that makes it seem it will jump in the RV and tag along. That doesnt happen either. It just disappears. Then suddenly the Predodog is tagging along. So here's what I think happened. Shane was going to have the Pit tag along with the boy and be sort of emotional support. The studio didnt think that was good enough so some idiot said to replace the Pit with the Predodog and have it tag along and provide "humor" and get close to Olivia's character.

2. The mom. She just disappears after the UberPredator breaks into the house. Feels like the end of her story ended up on the cutting room floor when the climax was reshot.

3. The reshooting of the climax is a big ol obvious smoking gun.

4. Uber predator tells the humans that McKenna is a true warrior and that he will lead the humans and they will be hunted and McKenna will be the prize. Then not 5 minutes later Rory is the target and the UberPredator just wants to steal him and flee. Feels like something was changed by the studio.

5. The Predator Killer scene. That scene absolutely reeks of last minute studio mandate. Everything from the way it sets up a sequel, toMcKenna suddenly being a respected officer in charge with all that chest salad, to the kid being a top researcher to the God awful cgi...if that scene wasnt a studio mandate I'll eat my goddamn boots.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

I liked it. It was dumb as ****, played for laughs and has likely killed the series, but I had fun.

 

[Schlosser85]

I finally watched this and oh boy this was a film created by a dumb committee. There are more than a few smoking guns.

1. The pitbull. (Gorgeous Pit by the way) When the Pit first appeared I was afraid the dog would try to attack the boy and be killed by the predodog. Thankfully that didnt happen and then I thought the dog would try t odefend the boy. That didnt happen. The dog just kinda disappears. Then later its shown running towards the main characters and it's done in a way that makes it seem it will jump in the RV and tag along. That doesnt happen either. It just disappears. Then suddenly the Predodog is tagging along. So here's what I think happened. Shane was going to have the Pit tag along with the boy and be sort of emotional support. The studio didnt think that was good enough so some idiot said to replace the Pit with the Predodog and have it tag along and provide "humor" and get close to Olivia's character.

2. The mom. She just disappears after the UberPredator breaks into the house. Feels like the end of her story ended up on the cutting room floor when the climax was reshot.

3. The reshooting of the climax is a big ol obvious smoking gun.

4. Uber predator tells the humans that McKenna is a true warrior and that he will lead the humans and they will be hunted and McKenna will be the prize. Then not 5 minutes later Rory is the target and the UberPredator just wants to steal him and flee. Feels like something was changed by the studio.

5. The Predator Killer scene. That scene absolutely reeks of last minute studio mandate. Everything from the way it sets up a sequel, toMcKenna suddenly being a respected officer in charge with all that chest salad, to the kid being a top researcher to the God awful cgi...if that scene wasnt a studio mandate I'll eat my goddamn boots.

When it said McKenna, it meant the son. Quinn just assumed it meant him.

 

[Marvolo]

When it said McKenna, it meant the son. Quinn just assumed it meant him.

That just makes it worse. I considered that when I watched it but I thought it couldnt have possibly meant that. That that thing would consider that child a true warrior is laughable. Even if the film is trying to convey the idea that intelligence is a mark of a true warrior, all the kid did was figure out how to open a damn door. Everything else he did up to that point was blindly fiddle with alien tech and play around with a dangerous weapon that randomly vaporized a *****enozzle and blew up a house.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

That just makes it worse. I considered that when I watched it but I thought it couldnt have possibly meant that. That that thing would consider that child a true warrior is laughable. Even if the film is trying to convey the idea that intelligence is a mark of a true warrior, all the kid did was figure out how to open a damn door. Everything else he did up to that point was blindly fiddle with alien tech and play around with a dangerous weapon that randomly vaporized a *****enozzle and blew up a house.

Yep, the Uber Predator meant the kid. Earlier on Nunn's character had said some people believe autism to be the next stage of human evolution, the Uber Pred was basically confirming that.

For me that was all Black

 

[Aximili86]

Yeah, much as I overall semi-dig this movie, the whole Rain Man kid thing went nowhere at all and could just as easily have been left out.

 

[Schlosser85]

It’s the way overused “autism as superpower” trope.

 

[-JKR-]

3/4 of those false are due to the reshoots. Just sayin'.

 

[Sithborg]

I just wanted the whole Predator escaping the lab without his full gear turned into a full movie.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I just wanted the whole Predator escaping the lab without his full gear turned into a full movie.

That was the best part of the movie. Though it did seem a bit silly later on when it was revealed that particular Pred was trying to help humanity, yet slaughtered every human he came across.

 

[Dugath]

That was the best part of the movie. Though it did seem a bit silly later on when it was revealed that particular Pred was trying to help humanity, yet slaughtered every human he came across.

Not true, the normal pred gave people plenty of chances to live unless they were opening attacking it.

Just actually saw this.. What a big Freaking load of donkey **** this movie was. It was actually fine until the big pred, but after that.. It went down the toilet.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Not true, the normal pred gave people plenty of chances to live unless they were opening attacking it.

Just actually saw this.. What a big Freaking load of donkey **** this movie was. It was actually fine until the big pred, but after that.. It went down the toilet.

It shot first at the soldiers at the start didn’t it? Then slaughtered humans who were quite obviously not warriors in the lab.

Or am I mis-remembering?

 

[Marvolo]

I just wanted the whole Predator escaping the lab without his full gear turned into a full movie.

Yeah after the escape the film goes off the rails.

 

[Teelie]

It shot first at the soldiers at the start didn’t it? Then slaughtered humans who were quite obviously not warriors in the lab.

Or am I mis-remembering?

It did. They were scientists experimenting on him so maybe that pissed him off. I know I wouldn't want to be vivisected either.