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Stormyprecious said:
"Storm was a true leader in the movie. But I have to say, her short height kinda took it away. I guess I'm more used to seeing her being taller in the comics. Action-wise...what can I say? She frigging fried everyone in the final battle. No tidal waves and no eye-snatching, though, sadly. But you will be impressed. She has truly stepped up as a leader. Well...erm...actually, Wolverine was the real leader. Sucks, I know. End rant. Should’ve been Cyclops in Wolverine’s place, but yeah, I guess beggars can’t be choosers. Halle Berry fought for her character's presence on-screen to actually "matter". It was worth it. She's more Storm than ever."

I don't think Wolverine was the real leader, she was just enabling him his chance to step up to the plate and prove himself as a team player, and as someone capable of making a necessary sacrafice, hence her talk with him before they leave for the end battle. She's still the real leader, as was specified previously in the film.
I didn't like it when Wolverine just barked out the orders to hold the line in the final battle. It didn't sound right coming from him...
 
Mr Lex Luthor said:
I didn't like it when Wolverine just barked out the orders to hold the line in the final battle. It didn't sound right coming from him...

I didn't either, but he still isn't really the true leader of the X-Men, Storm was enabling him to do that, he wasn't usurping her.
 
I didn't like it when Wolverine just barked out the orders to hold the line in the final battle. It didn't sound right coming from him...

Me either.

And to me the fact that Wolverine seemed to not be Wolverine in this film was a major drawback. All we get in this one is Logan the love sick puppy and Logan the grumpy teacher. Lets hope they make the Woverine film more R rated, more intense if you will.
 
Well all he acts like in the first two was a generic bad-ass wannabe that can't back up his bs, and that was still there to an extent in this film, but not as bad.
 
Stormyprecious said:
I didn't either, but he still isn't really the true leader of the X-Men, Storm was enabling him to do that, he wasn't usurping her.
Seeing the movie again for the second time just now, I take that back. :up: I agree with you. Storm was the true leader all the way through. Didn't Xavier tell her to take his place if something happens before seeing Beast?
 
Mr Lex Luthor said:
Seeing the movie again for the second time just now, I take that back. :up: I agree with you. Storm was the true leader all the way through. Didn't Xavier tell her to take his place if something happens before seeing Beast?

She referred to herself a student and he told her that he hasn't seen her as a student for quite some time, and he saw her as the person that would lead after he was gone.
 
It was too rushed. One scene turned into another before the last one had even ended. Beast didn't impress me much, neither did Storm, too much Wolverine and not enough of Phoenix. Some scenes were just plain absurd. Not much to my liking.
 
Lisea said:
It was too rushed. One scene turned into another before the last one had even ended. Beast didn't impress me much, neither did Storm, too much Wolverine and not enough of Phoenix. Some scenes were just plain absurd. Not much to my liking.

Like what?
 
does anyone have a picture of iceman when he fully iced up?
 
There was no tombstone for Jean in the start of the film.

When scott and Xavier die there's only a tombstone and funeral for Xavier.

So maybe no one's sure if scott's really dead.

But after jean dies (again) we get a tombstone for both of them.

There was no funeral for scott and Jean then, but there is one now????????


I hope i'm making sense here.
 
Mr Lex Luthor said:
Seeing the movie again for the second time just now, I take that back. :up: I agree with you. Storm was the true leader all the way through. Didn't Xavier tell her to take his place if something happens before seeing Beast?

Yeah and not in the subtlest way. You could tell that Xavier was going to bite the dust soon after that:mad:
 
Mirko will probably do a numeric poll for the front page, so I've created one here based on averages.
 
Lightning Strikez! said:
Mirko will probably do a numeric poll for the front page, so I've created one here based on averages.

Hey, welcome back! Everyone's wondering where you've been! BTW did you see XMTLS, LS?
 
i just saw this movie so here's my take at x3. all spoilers about each character so big warning.

I am an x-men fan and i did chose Cyclops side in this movie because its his story and you know the tragedy they did to his character. But i came in to see the movie and give it a fair chance.

The movie had alot of great moments but the best moment of the movie for me was when the X-Men landed and took their stand.. it felt so good but an x-men fan gets that small feeling its missing cyke, nightcrawler, angel, rogue, and gambit. The problem with this movie was it never took time to build up to the last battle.

It felt like everything and every character was just rushed into the final battle. It was like sorry no time to get to know you so get your behind to alcatraz now.

Storm- I think halle played a better storm than the past x-men movies but storm was a bit laid back. She decides to lead the school when Angel shows up and asks for a place to stay. They were all discussing to close it down but that's where she makes her decision to lead. Professor-X did ask her before and she was hesitant because she thought Cyclops would lead. He explains Cyclops is not the same anymore and he needs to find out his life again. She replies "There is something your not telling me."

Wolverine- Wolverine is tamed in this movie i mean we dont get to see no angry wolverine here.. its im in love wolverine. He did have a great performance but we dont get to see a full rage of the beast. People had alot of fun when Wolverine went at it with Beast. It was strange to see him leading the team at times but i think he did it because Jean was involved in the situation. So he can have the final say over jean. He leads the x-men into the final battle and takes on jean. I think it was a cool scene as she tries to vaporize him but he is trying to heal up at the same time. He is forcing himself to heal up and he gets close to Jean and tells her he is here for her. She calms down just a bit and he tells her because he loves her and kills her right there. She dies in his arms. His final scene, we get to see Wolverine standing infront of the mansion like he is going to help Storm continue Xavier's dream. I did like that before they get on the x-jet he tells the x-men they need to do this for what Cyclops and Xavier standed for. A little respect is better than none. lol

Cyclops- For the fans: Cyclops is alone in a room and hears Jean calling him and he gets all crazy and decides to leave. He gets to Alkali lake and he starts to hear those voices again. Then he screams "no" to the voices and shoots lazer beams into the water out of frustration. Then the water starts to fill in and he gets blasted back and see's a light. Jean appears and they hug. She tells him to remove his glasses and he doesnt' want to. She removes them and he has his eyes closed and then opens them. She kisses him and then he doesn't look as good and she is is turning somewhat pale/black and boom fades to the next scene. The same noise continues that Wolverine, Storm, and Professor-X hear something and the Professor sends them to Alkali. It looked like the X-men felt something like if someone died in that moment. During the rest of the movie the x-men presume Cyclops is dead so we dont know if he really got killed or what. We get a few glimpses of him and jean when Wolverine is asking Jean where is Cyclops but that's it. The crowd did want more Cyclops and it was good performance by Marsden.

Jean- We get a few glimpses of jean in this movie but its not really her throughout the whole movie. Its all the Phoenix ti'll the end and Pheonix finding out what she is and wants in this world. Jean asks Wolverine to kill her off when she is reminded about Cyclops. She doesn't want to live and at the sametime she knows what kind of threat she is.

Professor X- Good performance as usual. He wasn't laid back in this movie when he explains to wolverine about the mental blocks he had to put on jean.. he really puts him in his place. He doesn't hold back when he tries to get into Jean's mind at her house. We have a great moment here before he vaporizes. Magneto tries to calm the Phoenix down before she kills of X but then he takes it like war.. feelings later.

Beast- Everybody loved beast.. kelsey did a great job and i want to see more! I love his character and his fighting scenes. He unleashed a beast in the final battle.. it was great! Would luv to see the struggles Beast goes thru in the next movie.


Angel- They show us when he's a young kid and then when is about to take the cure. He has few lines and is an outcast in this movie. He overhears the x-men talking about worthington labs is going to be attacked. He shows up in the final battle to save his dad and that's it.

Rogue, Kitty, Iceman- Its not really a triangle.. Iceman doesn't cheat on Rogue but he does help Kitty when she is feeling down because X is dead. Rogue just happens to see those moments and takes them differently. You do feel like Kitty likes Iceman but he still is strong for Rogue. Rogue takes the cure and comes back in the end to see Iceman. so yes Iceman is finally going to get some now. These characters dont get developed in this movie.

Collossus- poor man. He did great but very few lines. and we only see him do 2 fastballs, carrying a television, and knocking guys out. We dont get to see what's happening in his life. He's just yes sir and ok sir in this movie.

Psylocke, Arclight and the spike guy- They had few moments like Collosus and that's it. They all get vaporized during the Phoenix rage.

Callisto- She is great in the movie but again small moments here and there. She has a battle w/ Storm and kicks her ass. But Storm remembers here training and knocks Callisto out and fries her on a fence. It looked like she died but again she can still come back.

Juggernaut- The crowd was laughing everytime and wanted more. and yes "im the juggernaut *****" line is in the movie. Vinnie played a good juggernaut in my opinion. Kitty gets to Leech and she can't go thru the other wall because of Leech. So they stand next to wall and wait for Juggernaut. He comes in and plows thru them but he knocks himself out. lol We never get to see what happen to him after that.

Pyro- Pyro is like every young guy who thinks he's invincible and can do what he wants. He is eager and ready to start this war and had to be held back by Magneto during the last battle. We see the brotherhood fail in the final battle and Magneto decides to start throwing cars on fire. Iceman is sent to distract Pyro and they go at it. Iceman ice's up when the fire engulfs him and knocks Pyro out. We dont get to see what happened to him after.

Mystique- She is great and people love the interrogation and when she is playing with the guards in her cell. She was caught for finding info on Leech. Magneto finds her when he recruits Callisto and ask her to find a specific mutant. Magneto rescues Mystique but when they are releasing the other mutants one of the wounded guards shoots his gun that has cure shots in it. She sacrifices herself before the shot hits Magneto and is cured. Magneto just dumps her right there like nothing. She gets him back by giving the goverment Magneto's headquarters. But when they get there they find a decoy.

Magneto- He has no time for feelings in this movie. He is there to lead his mutants to victory by all means necessary. He has a great moment during the last stand where he tells his lieutenants to stay back while the other mutants attack. The X-men realise he's too powerful for them and they find 3 cure shots on the ground. Wolverine goes to distract Magneto and Beast delivers the final blow. Magneto is cured and when he see's the Phoenix unleashed he says "what have i done" and he runs off.

He has the final scene where you see an old man who was once powerful now playing chess by himself in a park. You feel for Magneto in this moment which i think was great moment. You dont know if he is all confused now and is trying to figure out his life again or what. But then he tries to move a chess figure and he moves it a bit. and the movie ends. the crowd goes wild at this point like.. Its not over!

End Credits Cliffhanger
When Professor-X was teaching his students he shows them a clip about a coma guy. He was telling the kids about ethics and if its right to move someones conscious into another man who is not there anymore. So the final scene is Dr. Moira checking on her patient. He moves his head to look at her and we hear Professor-X's voice call her. She is scared and says "Charles" and it ends. People go wild that he is alive.

The soundtrack was alright and i am big soundtrack fan and it had small moments here and there but nothing to define the movie or make known that is from the x-men.

The movie leaves us with alot of questions. If Xavier was able to move himself.. what about Cyclops and others? The given answer was Cyclops was vaporized but they never showed it so it leaves things open here for creativity. So there is a chance Xavier and Cyclops can comeback in X4. It also opens up possibilites that the cure might be reversed or something evolving is going to happen to Magneto, Rogue, Mystique and others who took the cure.

If X4 is made i think a new director, producers and writers are needed. X3 had great potential and possibilities which you will see in the movie and it could of been one of the greatest comic movie ever made but it didn't happen. It needed time for a better script and those special moments in X3 were cut short. Batman Begins had a great script and build up and it had time to savor the great moments. The movie felt like a rushed popcorn flick which delivered just that. X1 and X2 might of had small battles but it build up to them and delivered a story. I give this movie an almost 8 out 10. I would give it a 7 but as an x-men fan that wants to see X4 i have to give it one more.

Wish list for X4:
1. Gambit
2. Gambit
3. Cyclops and Xavier's return but they have evolved.
4. Apocalypse and Sinister
5. Magneto, Mystique and Rogue get their mutant powers back or they have evolved as well.
6. Sentinels
 
Sunstar said:
Hey, welcome back! Everyone's wondering where you've been! BTW did you see XMTLS, LS?

Hey Sunstar. :D

I'm not "officially" back yet actually; I'm vacationing in 102 degree weather. ;) I haven't seen XMTLS yet, but I will be catching the midnight show here shortly.
 
I've voted X-Cellent and here's a copy of my review from a previous thread :


X3 was very good !
I wasn't sure what to think about some people in the media claiming it was the best of the 3, but it IS close to the top spot in the trilogy (for the record I love X2 but its neverending well... ending !).

The film gave great eye candy for the audience that's been missing from the 2 first films (team work, lots of action) and managed to keep the emotional touches seen previously.
The usual flaw remains though, not enough screen time for every character...

I'm very happy with how the trilogy ends (because it DOES end here for many characters, in different ways) and I'm sad at the same time because we didn't have everything we could hope for in the franchise at this point (characters, storylines, etc)...
Yet, there's still hope for developping this in the spin-offs (Factor X or The New Mutants could help too) and in the relaunching of the serie with a new mutant team.

So, a very positive review from me ! I can't wait to see it a second time (I kept being distracted looking for cameos - watch out for Chris Claremont !-).

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Brett Rattner :
Nevermind his previous works ! The franchise has been established so well that, I'll use an analogy with the comic-book world, it's more like the editor changed on your favorite title : the story is different of course but the editorial line that was successfull is respected, the art is the same...
Do not worry about Rattner ! :)

Wolverine : As usual, Jackman was excellent. The intensity of the ending is perfect for the character !

Storm : Hmmm. You can totally tell that Halle Berry whined to get more screentime ! ;) Sometimes her presence is not always justified (the younger actors could have gotten a few of her lines here and there) BUT her hairdo looks great, so does the use of her powers ! She flies, she kicks ass : that's Storm ! :D

Pr X : No surprise here also, Patrick Stewart did an excellent job and showed a darker side to Xavier. He can be tough when necessary.

Magneto : Same thing here. I also was very impressed by the younger versions of both actors in the prologue !

Jean Grey : The highlight of X3 ! Very creepy and dangerous looking, there's no winks to the comic-book manifestation of Phoenix (bird, fire, etc) but the way they chose is per-fect.

The Good :
Iceman, Pyro (and Iceman Vs Pyro !), Beast, Mystique, Colossus, Multiple Man

The Bad :
Not enough screentime for Cyclops, Kitty, Rogue, Trask, Juggernaut (pretty enjoyable !) and Angel

The Ugly :
Most of the Brotherhood/Morlocks people look lame ("Stacy X"/Arclight, Callisto, Psylocke (barely worth the name of the character))... It felt like we were back to the lame Sabertooth look.

That's it for me ! You should have a pleasant surprise in theaters true believers ! ;)
 
Watched it last night....well...here's my review.....
itz somewhat spoiler-free....


X-MEN: THE LAST STAND: An X-tremely Magnificent Instant Classic
by Reymundo Salao

This is the final installment to what is now known as the X-MEN Trilogy. Known as the “Children of the Atom” and the children of human evolution, MUTANTS have become widespread throughout the globe. But a "cure" for being a mutant was unveiled and this puts into motion the war between the radical mutants who seek to overthrow mankind which has shown mutant community the extent of human prejudice, and the X-men, a mutant group who would stand to defend humanity from mutants who would use their powers to threaten the rest of the defenseless human society.

When the comics series “X-men” was first conceived back in the 1960’s by Marvel comics’ father, living legend, Stan Lee (which makes an appearance in this film), it was to become one of the most profound comic book sagas, that which is way ahead of its time. Mutants have become a metaphor for the kinds of people who have become victims of prejudice, alienation, and fear. May it be because of race, culture, sex, appearance, religion, or even physical characteristics, whether that characteristic may be a deformity or not. Mutants are feared for what they can do, alienated for what they appear to be, and hated simply for what they are. Not only that; in the U.S., the term “Mutant” has been a slang term used to defame and demean those who are different and those who don’t fit in with the rest of society.

Right now, we live in a world wherein equality must prevail, even though factors like terrorist paranoia and biological threats continues to exist, there must be an undying movement for equality. With the cultural and technological advancements of the new millennium making the world smaller for us all, equality and tolerance must exist, because division and inequality might threaten to destroy us all.

One of this film's subplots involves a "cure" for being a mutant. In one way or another, the storyline subliminally raises the question; "Would you resort to change or alter yourself just to fit in to the rest of society, assuming that your uniqueness is never really a deformity or an abnormality?" Metaphorically, it could be like asking questions such as "If given a chance, would an Asian try to alter his looks just to look Caucasian or maybe less ethnic? If given a chance, would a homosexual alter his/her sexuality just for the sake of fitting in?" More or less, it could even make us think of our opinions on plastic surgery or playing god with the advances of technology? The film subliminally opens your mind up from the metaphors and to relevant social issues.

After the ending of the trilogy's second episode, entitled “X-2: X-Men United”, it is inevitable and understandable to those familiar with the X-men series that what will happen next is what is known as the "Phoenix saga" which is the storyline wherein Jean Grey is resurrected into the twisted character known as The Dark Phoenix. But it is quite obvious, from the trailers and the publicity of the film, that the main villain in the third installment of the trilogy still is Magneto, and that this third will obviously become the grand finale of Magneto's great war that he wishes to rage and has been talking about ever since the first film. And that the Dark Phoenix storyline is smartly blended along with the Magneto storyline, among other subplots yet to be revealed. But understandably, the film is designed to be a blockbuster big-explosion/big-stunts action bonanza, so understandably, the stunts, the actions, and the special effects would take the front seat in making this film a classic.

Looking back months ago, it was hard to imagine a director like Brett Ratner, whose credits include the mediocre "Red Dragon" and the popcorn flicks "Rush Hour" 1 & 2, to take on what was Bryan Singer's job of breathing life into what is the greatest superhero team saga in comics’ history. Thankfully, for all of us, this third X-men movie stays true to the mood, tone, and overall continuity and consistency with the first two films. With the last X-men movie etching itself to be one of the best superhero movies of all time, this sequel never lets down to shine much more and manages to rise into a new level of cinematic high.

Patrick Stewart, Hugh Jackman, Halle Berry, Ian McKellen, Famke Janssen, and all the other X-men characters from the first two movies reprise their roles with an excellent continuity. The new players in the X-world are Vinnie Jones (Snatch, Mean Machine) as the unstoppable Juggernaut, the lovely young Ellen Page as Kitty "Shadowcat" Pryde, Ben Foster in an unexpectedly smaller-than-expected role as Warren "Angel" Worthington III, and Kelsey Grammar in a charming role as Dr. Henry "Hank" McCoy, the blue-furred "Beast". The casting of characters may be numerous, but it does not fail to become confusing, and succeeds in being done orderly.

However, in one way or another, the film may tend to rely on the idea that the viewer has either watched the two other X-men films, and/or is also familiar with the entire X-men mythos; From the characters, to their powers, to their capabilities and convictions. Not unless you are familiar with such information, you should open your ears and hear out each and every important detail of the storyline.

The film's superpower action is very inventive, never redundant and is way ahead of falling off the cliché hook. Its script and storyline stretches itself far from being predictable. You may consider yourself familiar with the numerous popular X-men storylines, but even that will still less likely exempt you from the film's jaw-dropping surprises; moments in this film which, I'm sure that you will agree with me when I say, that it happens more than once. In addition, I would advice for you not to leave the theater after the end credits because there is a bonus extra scene. A perfectly satisfying epilogue for this final chapter.

X-MEN: The Last Stand is this summer's juggernaut blockbuster sci-fi-action-adventure megamovie! A never miss! It is a comic nerd's wet-dream come true! A definite superhero saga movie to end all superhero sagas. An X-traordinarily Superior X-perience! X-citingly X-terminating all X-pectations! This is X-MEN: THE LAST STAND

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nogster said:
just came back from it.
and yes its very enjoyable. if u are an xmen fan or a superhero fan in general. u will get more out of it. as u know and feel for the characters more so than just the general public.
the movie does lack character depth. most characters in the film are generic 2 dimensional versions. its the acting chops that push the fairly weak characterisation and script up a bit.
patrick stewart and ian mckellan obviously handle their parts with ease considering their screen presence.
wolverine was a bit dissapointing to me. only because he is too watered down and soft now. there is no feral in him anymore. but hugh jackman still has made the character his own.
halle berry;s storm has more screentime and she does kick some top arse with her powers this time around. its a pity her delivery of the character is so bland.
angel is hardly in it and serves as a vehicle for the plot and themes the movie is trying to express.
beast is fine. and handled well by kelsey grammar. its good to see the "furball" on screen finally.
colossus is hardly on screen at all. and i think he has 1 line in the entire film.
same with rogue. i wanted to see rogue finally sass up and become an xmen. the opposite happens here. she resembles nothing of the kick arse chick i was hoping to finally see.
pyro and iceman had a good buildup to their fight and when it finally happened it was well.... a fizzer. the one of a few scenes that ended too fast and without any directional aplomb. still he iced up so i can forgive the uninspired battle they had.
juggernaut was crap. no mention of his relation to xavier. he was mutant in this version and while he had some decent action scenes, it was not the juggernaut out there. just some footy hooligan with fake muscles and a stupid helmet that served no purpose. a wasted character.
jean grey kicked arse and was my favourite character in the film. seeing her as the dark phoenix was tops.
cyclops had about as much time as collossus in the film and was handled terribly by the script. for the leader of the xmen he certainly got handed the shortest straw in this trilogy and the 3rd movie is like a slap in the face for all who like the character.

the story was weak. the action was great.
as a popcorn superhero movie it did rock hard mostly. esspecially the 1st hour.
the climax was good too but lacked any emotional impact.
i will say though. i did have a tear in my eye during a scene. so for those critics that say this film holds no emotional resonance. well they are obviously not fans.
if u are a fan. u will get a whole lot more out of x3 than the average joe.
so in that regard its a thumbs up. even though some plot developments will also infuriate some of u fans as well.
7-10

I agree on most parts. But I'm still going to say that it lacked emotion. I felt *nothing* when
Jean and Cyclops died. But Xavier's death was at least somewhat emotional. I even had tears in my eyes.
Characters were... I don't want to say ruined, but they just didn't feel the same. Rogue, Wolverine and Storm were the biggest disappointments. Characters were paper thin and plot was sometimes lost (they should have chosen either Cure or Phoenix storyline. Not both.) It had a lot of action and pretty pictures, but it still didn't feel *epic*. Just another action movie. :( 6.5/10

(I do appreciate Phoenix stripping Wolverine in the end, but that doesn't make it a better movie. :D)
 
Just saw it an hour ago. Way better than I was expecting
...got me a bit misty eyed at one point.
:)

For those who don't know, make sure you stay until after the credits.
 
DeFett said:
Just saw it an hour ago. Way better than I was expecting
...got me a bit misty eyed at one point.
:)

For those who don't know, make sure you stay until after the credits.

Aargh. I still hate myself for not staying after credits. How do you spell Kira? S-T-U-P-I-D.
 
Yes the "I'm the Juggernaut *****" is in the movie... and kitty also calls him a ******** to provoke him to charge and thus leech skrews his powers and he is knocked out (which is bs because juggernaut is not a mutant :( )
 
SilentAU said:
Yes the "I'm the Juggernaut *****" is in the movie... and kitty also calls him a ******** to provoke him to charge and thus leech skrews his powers and he is knocked out (which is bs because juggernaut is not a mutant :( )

Yeah, but the whole Ruby of Cyttorak thing wouldn't have worked in the films. Making him a mutant was simpler and easier, and didn't hurt the plot.
 
after rewatching x2 last night, x3 really really is crap now............
 
just came back from x-men 3 and as far as i am concerned i am happy with what brett has done, EVERYONE in this movie uses their power to the potential that they have, storm, magneto, iceman. this movie is total chaos, it was me and this other guy just waiting there during the credits with no one else and i wonder if he knew about the extra scene after the credits as well. Anyway im happy with what was made here, i think the time was a bit too short but man some scenes made me go 'WHOA' thanks brett! :up:
 
i cant believe im like one of the few people on this board to see it first! i feel so special ;)
 

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