Most of what he does is restate arguments made by the likes to Dawkins and Harris. In that sense, I don't think he's wrong about the inherent issues of religion.
alright well in practice, when bill maher makes jokes like the one he did about zayn, who is his audience? does it include muslims? if not, and i'm bill's got plenty of muslim viewers, i feel like he'd shrug knowing that and wouldn't try to understand the body of the muslim community worldwide, instead of judging the religion the people follow by the extremist way it is always highlighted.
now again, i'm not saying muslims should be exempt from ridicule in the media. in fact, it pisses me off how easily muslims get offended about stuff. i just don't like the way the stigma is sticking. and i really can't blame the general public for having the misconceptions about us that they do but simultaneously i wish they would open their minds a little and give us a chance. i made a thread about a specific encounter one day that I had going to the dentist.
i can't say much about dawkins or harris either but that one time they were on bill's show with ben affleck it sounded like they weren't willing to hear things that would not fit with their argument. it seemed like for every counterargument in favor of islam/muslims, sam harris would say something like "well i've seen studies that show this.." and I don't really consider that as a backup to a claim.
He shouldn't. To be clear, I'm not exactly a big fan of Maher. I wouldn't exactly consider him a credible author or source of religious criticisms. Again, most of what Maher does regarding religion is restate arguments made by people more educated than him on the topic (which would give them credibility, not necessarily Maher) and make jokes about it. He does give good points, but I would never credit him in the sense of "Here's what expert Bill Maher had to say on religion".
alright, but he he also seems to dismiss or just ignore facts that give the people he disses, redeeming qualities. it's almost as if he does not want to stop believing the rash ideals that he does. he's brought muslims onto his show too, and things didn't really get anywhere. not tryna be funny but I think he was high that day too (not bill, the muslim).
Disagree in the sense that he completely twists and misinterprets every argument people like Harris and Dawkins make about religion, painting them as some warmongering neocons, as well as the fact he seems to believe any criticism towards Islam is an act of bigotry. That's simply not what Dawkins and Harris are all about. Practically almost every criticism I've seen him make is based on a misconception of some sort.
alright, i won't argue with you here but what I will say is that it seems like harris doesn't do the exact same thing but is similar to bill in a more polite way, in that he won't acknowledge facts that give redeeming qualities to people of certain religions like islam. it's like this page on facebook called right wing news. they post bad news stuff about muslims all the time but whenever something nice comes up about muslims, they'll either find a way to twist it, or not think anything of it.
Bill Maher isn't exactly my favorite guy in the world, but I wouldn't put him anywhere near O'Reilly.
Also, I find it odd to call him "irrational" as he's still in agreement with the left on 90% of other issues. I don't see how his particular beliefs on religion, even if you could argue are wrong, downgrade him to irrational Fox levels.
i'm not saying one of these guys is better than the other, all i'm saying is that they have a few things in common which are that they are famous high profile political commentators, who like to dog on things like islam. o'reilly pisses me off on another level coz of the crap he spews about rap music and marijuana and i think video games too.
bill maher is a popular guy, i think his fans outweigh his haters, and while obviously bill o reilly's got a bad rep, he still has a following that probably includes millions
Yeah, I think that much is obvious by now.
what are you trying to say pal
I like dave chappelle, I like kevin hart, I think the hangover is a classic, but as far as comedy and horror go overall as genres, they just ain't my cups of tea.
what i've stated about the things going on with the likes of bill maher is a different story.
Nah, I'm just kidding; you're alright.
