The Dark Knight Rises Should "Realism" be lightened up a bit?

[IBRAH08]

Ivy and Freezes stories are spot on in that film, hell even Bane's origins are covered pretty much as they on the page, on top of that the film's campiness hearkens back to the tone of the 60's show and comics of that era. I'd argue B&R ranks just behind both BB and TDK in terms of being loyal to the mythology, in spite of how bad it is.

Bane was covered in the sense that they called him Bane, he had a mask, and used something called "venom" everything else was hugely wrong. Also, I wouldn't call ivy's origin "spot on". And freeze is slightly different that BTAS

 

[weezerspider]

Ivy and Freezes stories are spot on in that film, hell even Bane's origins are covered pretty much as they on the page, on top of that the film's campiness hearkens back to the tone of the 60's show and comics of that era. I'd argue B&R ranks just behind both BB and TDK in terms of being loyal to the mythology, in spite of how bad it is.

Technically, Freeze's story is spot on to BTAS interpretation, not the original comics

 

[regwec]

Yes, that's a very fair point. One could also argue that the portrayal of Harley Quinn in the comics is off, unless she is being written by Paul Dini.

 

[IBRAH08]

Technically, Freeze's story is spot on to BTAS interpretation, not the original comics

I actually thought about saying that but then I decided, "no, I won't be THAT guy"

 

[weezerspider]

Yes, that's a very fair point. One could also argue that the portrayal of Harley Quinn in the comics is off, unless she is being written by Paul Dini.

There is a difference. Harley Quinn didn't exist before BTAS, Mr. Freeze did.

 

[regwec]

I know that, and the fact is implicitly acknowledged in the second half of my post. I wss expanding the point jmx made.

 

[jmc]

Technically, Freeze's story is spot on to BTAS interpretation, not the original comics

Which was then adapted into the comics, it's still valid.

Bane was covered in the sense that they called him Bane, he had a mask, and used something called ''venom'' everything else was hugely wrong. Also, I wouldn't call ivy's origin ''spot on''. And freeze is slightly different that BTAS

They still used the source material to great lengths. Argue until you're blue in the face, as much as I hate that film with a passion, B&R is very faithful to the source material.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Technically, Freeze's story is spot on to BTAS interpretation, not the original comics

No it isn't. In TAS as well as in retconned comics canon, Freeze didn't botch his own experiment, & was seeking revenge on the people who did.

 

[The Joker]

WHy is it so impossible for people to discuss Batman without attacking Spidey?

Huh? This is the first time Spidey has cropped up in this thread.

 

[weezerspider]

No it isn't. In TAS as well as in retconned comics canon, Freeze didn't botch his own experiment, & was seeking revenge on the people who did.

Good point, so B&R isn't even spot on on that. B&R is easily the worst movie I've sat through.

 

[jmc]

Hey look it it this way, if it wasn't for B&R would we would never have gotten BB and TDK. We can look back and laugh at it now.

 

[IBRAH08]

Hey look it it this way, if it wasn't for B&R would we would never have gotten BB and TDK. We can look back and laugh at it now.

that doesn't make you right t:

 

[jmc]

 

[IBRAH08]

just poking fun at you changing the subject. Just kidding though, sorry

 

[Texas Zombie]

Nahh I like the realism, when you have a good thing going why change it.

It's a great series finish it off in the same style as the past 2, but I would like to see how Nolan would portray the more out of this world characters in a animated feature, and I would love to see a short run comic based in the nolanverse(12 comics max).

 

[Arge_101]

As long as enough realism is kept in to keep Robin OUT, I'm happy

 

[Gianakin_]

Considering that TDK was hardly realistic, just downplayed the absurdity of the situations the characters were in sometimes, I'd say no. I'm fine with the route the went in TDK.

"Realism" or "heightened realism" are completely wrong terms, IMO. I don't know if I have a better suggestion for Nolan's take (plausible fantasy? Nah...), but his Batfilms aren't realistic (which is in no way bad in my book).

 

[J.Howlett]

^Plausible reality is a better term because that's what he's been doing since Batman Begins. It'll continue in Batman 3.

Not realism but plausible...that's always been Nolan's secret to making this franchise work.

 

[Gianakin_]

^Plausible reality is a better term because that's what he's been doing since Batman Begins. It'll continue in Batman 3.

Not realism but plausible...that's always been Nolan's secret to making this franchise work.

Heh, I want to make it clear that I'm not being a jerk here, I'm just saying: Isn't reality plausible by default?

Other than that, yeah, plausibility is the key word. And even with using that word, TDK was walking on thin ice on that front.