Comics Should the new & improved Rogue find a place in her heart for Gambit again?

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

He needs to written by a good writer who knows what he's about and understands his character. He can be very interesting if written well. Same goes for almost every x-man.

Too bad some turned him into a one-liner spouting obnoxious flirt, eh?

Lot could've been done with the brooding/badass angle. Oh well.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Scott can't do that you see, cause Jean and his love is not that top of love. Do you seriously think if Jean was to return, he' stay with Emma?

Ha. Even Emma knows she'd be history in that case.

Scott and Jean. Troubles and all. Misery. Happiness. Were meant to be together. It's been shown numberous times over the comics. Emma is just the ''right now" woman.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Scott can't do that you see, cause Jean and his love is not that top of love. Do you seriously think if Jean was to return, he' stay with Emma?

Considering all the Jott fans' moaning, the odds of editors putting the pair back together are kinda high. I'm sadly aware of that.

But if future writers are faithful to what Morrison did and what Whedon is doing right now, then, no, he wouldn't go back to Jean. I'm still not sure whether Endsong is canon or not (anyone???), so I won't use it as a big gun. But if it, the FP itself aknowledged that Scott chose Emma.

Emma is just the ''right now" woman.

Actually, she's the woman who saw through him like no one else ever did. One could even say she fell in love with the man that Scott truly is and that Jean (nor anybody in her defense) ever saw.

Well, actually, maybe Xavier did. And Wolvie on some level. But that's about it.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Hungh. Double post.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Oh, and as for the Gambit/Rogue topic...

Let'em grow apart for a bit.

If they end up completely different people, then to hell with romance.

If they're essentially the same souls only with 'tweaks' then sure, why not?

 

[squeekness]

I think the Foxx arc pretty much spelled out that it was time for Gambit to move on. He's been "getting by" with Rogue for a while and all it's done is tear them both apart. He needs time to recover and hopefully move on.

 

[usagicassidy]

I don't think we have to consider anything that Milligan did Canon, though...

 

[supermarvelman]

I think Rogue and Gambit should eventually end up together.

 

[Mike059jig]

I'm still not sure whether Endsong is canon or not (anyone???), so I won't use it as a big gun. But if it, the FP itself aknowledged that Scott chose Emma.

Endsong is Canon it must of happened after gifted......yes we know cyclops choose emma...jean being being bonded with the pheonix won't allow her to love someone....but hey maybe some other villian is after jean missing fragments .....Scotts reaction at the end of that issue is enough to show he do anything for her.....

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Scotts reaction at the end of that issue is enough to show he do anything for her.....

??????

Are we talking in a romantic capacity or in a friendly capacity?

'Cause there was nothing romantic about Cyke's pep talk.

That, and there's the fact that, I dunno, about EVERYONE was crying or having a similar emotional reaction.

 

[@JeanGrey]

I'm a romy shipper, but for the moment, writers need to develop their characters, bring them back to their senses and wash out milligan's soap-operish crap that is all over them. I found them pathetic in Milligan's run. As everyone. That means at least another year being solo.

I find rogue's attitude more a reaction to what has recenlty happened. Hell. half of us drop ourselves on work after a harsh break up. Someone referred in another thread that we haven't seen her smile, and this is NOT Rogue, no matter the problems. The following arcs will bring up again her emotional side. You cannot define rogue as ruthless. At the moment I find her very thoughtfull about anything.

About Cajun, since we haven't read anything for him so far, i cannot tell or speculate. I wanna see him being flirtatious again.

Let time pass and i think that things will fix between them. But i believe that they share far too many bonds with each other so that they will not end up together again in the future. And you cannot just turn off your feelings about someone in few weeks!

How much real time has passed since Gambit became Death? 2 weeks or more?

 

[@JeanGrey]

Oh, just in case someone misinterprets my words.

I like and I adore the confidence in new Rogue. I love her facing effectively teammmatess or villains. I love her being able to make desicions. I love so far the way Carey develops her. I just do not think the great amounts of aggressiveness she shows in some cases would be a good change. For the time being her attitude in some cases is justified by me. But i don't want her to end up evolving to a scary bi**h.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I like and I adore the confidence in new Rogue. I love her facing effectively teammmatess or villains. I love her being able to make desicions. I love so far the way Carey develops her. I just do not think the great amounts of aggressiveness she shows in some cases would be a good change. For the time being her attitude in some cases is justified by me. But i don't want her to end up evolving to a scary bi**h.

Seems like they're going the 'pissed off amazon' route so far...

 

[ProfeZZor X]

I should have made this into a poll, like I did on the other forum.

The consensus there was that they should NOT get back together. While others felt they need to start seeing other people.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I should have made this into a poll, like I did on the other forum.

The consensus there was that they should NOT get back together. While others felt they need to start seeing other people.

We talking landslide or a 60/40 kind of thing?

 

[ProfeZZor X]

We talking landslide or a 60/40 kind of thing?

More like a lanslide... (Both threads posted in the same day)

See the results for yourself:

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=162130

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Ouch. 85% landslide.

 

[Neptune]

Gambit supposed to be in X-men 200 i believe. I defintely want to see what Carey has plannd for him and Rogue.

 

[iamlegend]

Gambit supposed to be in X-men 200 i believe. I defintely want to see what Carey has plannd for him and Rogue.

X-men 200 for sure? Has that been confirmed, or is it still sometime generally around 200?

In my mind it's pretty obvious that Gambit will pry initially reappear as a minion of Sinister, along with Sunfire. Where they take it will be interesting though.

 

[Rogue's Hand]

X-men 200 for sure? Has that been confirmed, or is it still sometime generally around 200?

In my mind it's pretty obvious that Gambit will pry initially reappear as a minion of Sinister, along with Sunfire. Where they take it will be interesting though.

That confrontation is going to be major!
Rogue's ex-boyfriend and the man who's powers she stole!!!
I can't wait! t:

 

[iamlegend]

That confrontation is going to be major!
Rogue's ex-boyfriend and the man who's powers she stole!!!
I can't wait! t:

If I were to hazard a guess I'd say the first reappearance of both characters won't result in much of a confrontation at all... We'll see them, they'll disappear for a few more issues, and then we'll see them reappear for this apparently epic arc over the summer.

But yes, I'm sure we'll see Gambit and Sunfire battle whoever's on the team at least once, and in the end I wouldn't be surprised to see both of them either go solo or wind up with an X-team.

 

[Neptune]

I'd like that. I want Gambit on a X team. But not on Rogue's team though. Mystique is also on that team.

 

[Darthkush]

For one thing, I'm not sure Rogue really is "new and improved". It's more like she's battle hardened, serious, and(for me) boring. Nothing more. Gambit is far worse though. Gambit hasn't been interesting since the Morlock Massacre thing mentioned earlier in the thread. He's just been sort of "there" since then until they made him a horsemen which felt more like the writers giving up on him for shock value than anything else.

First thing they need to do is make Gambit, by himself, interesting again. That's step one. After that they can see if Gambit and Rogue should be a couple again. I was a huge fan of them when I was younger but being older now i'm not quite sure their relationship can work.

Now Scott and Jean(and this continuously silly Emma Bullcrap), that's a whole other story..

 

[Red Mask]

With that said, does it make sense for them to get back together, or to move on? Yes, they've been together for a long time, but as with most relationships, people grow up and move on. Should this long time relationship be any different?

Only if she wants a smelly drow for a boyfriend. I don't think they should get back together, nor should Gambit be restored to a 'good guy'. The redemption trend is fading in comics. Start good, return to good. If you're bad, your stay rotten, or you get killed off.

 

[Neptune]

I think they should turn him into a good guy again. He never had any good reasons for turning to the darkside. Besides we can all agree that him being Death just sucks. It could have been interesting, sure but it isn't. He's an X-man at heart, not a villain. Gambit fans have to suffer because Milligan screwed up the character.