Should they recast T'Challa/Black Panther or make Shuri the new Panther?

[Gamma Goliath]

To be fair he played Jackie Robinson and James Brown too. But black panther did put him on the Ultimate platform.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Agreed. He had several popular and well regarded roles outside of T'Challa, but obviously he will be best known for T'Challa. You can try and argue what his legacy would be without having played T'Challa, but ultimately what is the point? He was T'Challa. He made history in the role. It is part of his legacy. There is nothing wrong with that, so who cares about his legacy excluding that role? Fruitless argument, IMO.

 

[Gladius Nova]

Int the Spider-Verse is an embodiment of everything I hate in superhero genre. Seen it once, won't ever touch it (or its sequels) again. Making countless versions of the same character is one of the main reasons I've stopped reading comics in 90s.


Without Black Panther nobody would give a s**t. Nobody would even remember who the guy was in ten years.
Your brilliant idea is like trying flush the character he is most known for down the toilet.

It won't happen though.

Your hyperbole is very disrespectful.

 

[Frodo]

Tbh I think you're overestimating the pop culture impact George Reeves had compares to Chris. While i don't doubt an entrire generation grew up with Reeves, it was Christopher who cemented Supreman into pop culture as an icon. Superman the movie in itself was a revolutionary film. Black Panther had a similar cultural impact and Boseman will always be cemented as the image of T'Challa. And for the MCU, SPECIFICALLY. Anyone else tries to fill his boots will feel like an impostor; a fake T'Challa.

Superman was already a Pop culture icon by 1978. Superman had been around 40 years by the time Superman the movie was released.

I would say that Chris Reeve cemented his film version of Superman as a pop culture Icon to genXers and future generations, but the character in general was already iconic by the time Reeve donned the cape.

Heck, Superman was iconic by the time George Reeve had played him in the 1950s since the character had been hugely for close to 20 years at that point.

That said, Boseman is the only live action actor to date to play BP, so in that sense , its harder to fill his shoes. In the GA's mind BP is Chadwick, but that doesn't mean the GA won't accept another actor provided he's good.

But the bar has been set sky high , that's for sure.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I'm honestly fine with either option though I'm already exhausted by the future drama it will bring by whichever choice they make.

T'Challa still has plenty of story to tell and someone taking over that role would be put under a microscope.

Shuri being forced to take up the mantle unexpectedly has plenty of good story to it and would give us our first major black female solo film since Catwoman.

Either way, Black Panther as a whole needs to continue and I'm glad I'm not in Marvels shoes for once.

 

[Prison Mike]

I’m all for Shuri to take up the mantle. I think the timing works out too since the MCU has been shaken up already with Iron Man, Black Widow, and Steve Rogers gone. Plus it’s already been established that there have many Black Panthers so it wouldn’t come out of left field for another character to step up. I’m okay with a recast if that’s what they ultimately decide to do but there will always be comparisons to Boseman so that’s why I’m kind of reluctant to that.

 

[Gieferg]

But the bar has been set sky high , that's for sure.

It hasn't. That's for sure.

His role is just ok. Nothing more. Nothing close to RDJ or even Evans/Hemsworth.
Nothing that can't be matched or topped. It even looks like producers were not sure if he can carry a movie on his own, so he's still sidelined and looks like secondary character in his own movie. Character that even the director don't know what to do with. Even in action scenes he's not shown enough for a main protagonist. He was nice addition in CW, but in his solo outing was nothing more than a weak protagonist who needs whole bunch of secondary characters to help him carry a movie. And that's probably not his fault, but he hasn't been given anything interesting to work with.Just a Lion King variation in which the antagonist arise more sympathy (even if the script constatnly tries to portray him as complete psycho) than a hero.

I said that after the premiere in 2018 in my Blu-ray review and I say it now.
But the first one that should be replaced here, is the director.

 

[Frodo]

It hasn't. That's for sure.

His role is just ok. Nothing more. Nothing close to RDJ or even Evans/Hemsworth.
Nothing that can't be matched or topped. It even looks like producers were not sure if he can carry a movie on his own, so he's still sidelined and looks like secondary character in his own movie. Character that even the director don't know what to do with. Even in action scenes he's not shown enough for a main protagonist. He was nice addition in CW, but in his solo outing was nothing more than a weak protagonist who needs whole bunch of secondary characters to help him carry a movie. And that's probably not his fault, but he hasn't been given anything interesting to work with.Just a Lion King variation in which the antagonist arise more sympathy (even if the script constatnly tries to portray him as complete psycho) than a hero.

I said that after the premiere in 2018 in my Blu-ray review and I say it now.
But the first one that should be replaced here, is the director.

I said the bar has been set high. That doesn't mean it can't or won't be matched. I'm not arguing it can't or won't be matched.

I'm advocating for a recast of T'Challa. I wouldn't do that if I didn't think it couldn't be done.

That said, while you may not think he was much as the Protagonist, but that's certainly not the opinion shared by the mainstream general audience, and certainly not the Black community who's in deep mourning of the loss of Chadwick.

That is for sure. That's not even all that debatable.

So yes, its going to be challenge to fill those shoes ,which requires more than putting on a suit or having someone do stunts in the suit.

Black Panther, like it or not, is more to people than just a guy in a suit.

I think Feige and co will rise to that challenge.

 

[Gieferg]

I hope that too.
Because the character introduced in CW was interesting enough, to make ma want to see more of him. Unfortunately after CW everything about Black Panther (except Chadwick himself, who was ok) was a disappointment for me.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

I'm going to give whoever they cast a chance. And keep an open mind. If there's one thing marvel has been best at since day 1 is casting.

 

[COCOS]

leatitia wright is not a lead, she doesnt have that charisma & her physique is too petite & skinnier to play a role like that....she's more like a New Tony Stark,she worked well with Chadwick in the film as a Co lead

and if u recast =the studio get alot of hate and the actor is in trouble too for accepting the role

 

[Schlosser85]

I hope that too.
Because the character introduced in CW was interesting enough, to make ma want to see more of him. Unfortunately after CW everything about Black Panther (except Chadwick himself, who was ok) was a disappointment for me.

I do kinda feel like the Russos in Civil War handled both Black Panther and Spider-Man more perfectly than their own solo movies did.

 

[Schlosser85]

leatitia wright is not a lead, she doesnt have that charisma & her physique is too petite & skinnier to play a role like that....she's more like a New Tony Stark,she worked well with Chadwick in the film as a Co lead

and if u recast =the studio get alot of hate and the actor is in trouble too for accepting the role

I don't necessarily think that's true. A few people yelling on Twitter should never be taken as representative of the mainstream audience. They're a loud (LOUD) minority.

 

[Boom]

I don't feel comfortable really getting into this yet, but I will say this much.

Black Panther as a character is now of such cultural significance and importance that I think Boseman would want him to continue on. Having said that, I think they should hit pause on Black Panther 2. Give all of the creatives involved a chance to grieve and move on if need be, and then plan the next appropriate step.

 

[Vaibow]

one word... multiverse.

 

[Spider-Fan]

one word... multiverse.

I don't understand. Multiverse how? You mean like, recast T'Challa and just say new T'Challa is from Earth XYZ? I think everyone would hate that. If you mean something else, please elaborate.

 

[BobJM]

I could see a resurrected Erik Killmonger as the new Black Panther. A story of redemption. Perhaps his identity is a mystery to the supporting characters throughout the film. His role in the first film really resonated with audiences.

I could see Shuri assuming the role prematurely; there's story built in right there. Perhaps Nakia could take the mantle as Shuri really isn't ready, and thus it falls to Queen Nakia (her and T'Challa's nuptials were off-screen).

But, ultimately, I do support a recast in this situation. As I mentioned in other threads, or perhaps this one, there's story to be mined in T'Challa and one that I personally would like to see carried out on screen. I don't know how Boseman himself would feel, nor do I pretend to know. This is simply what I want, and something that I think Marvel could realistically consider and not be disrespectful or dismissive of Boseman's contribution to the character & lore.

Aldis Hodge is still my pick for assuming the role of T'Challa. Marvel will need to vet him (as crazy as that sounds) to ensure that he can handle the responsibilities that comes with being a public superhero, especially Black Panther, but from everything I've seen/heard, Hodge seems to be a stand-up guy.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

There's no need for a multiverse swap though, the new actor can just step into the role. No need to over explain. Imo. Same character new actor. Let's not get into the DC is doing (not a slight on DC)

And Aldis Hodge is my Top pick as well. He's talented and due for some attention. He's got the physicality and presence, and looks in line with the character. Its not like Bosemans panther looked 43 so the age gap doesn't bother me a bit.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

It does feel weird to get into this now but I'd rather they just make Shuri Panther. Recasting is not completely invalid, I don't think Chadwick would've been mad, but... I dunno, I think a recast Panther would just feel super uncomfortable.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

It will be uncomfortable no matter what happens, especially since shuri isn't really set up to be the panther the way her comic counter part was. I do think with the recast there will have to be a sense of "campaigning" on marvel and the new hires part to get people comfortable with the idea of a new T'challa. All to say only after the appropriate amount of time is taken to really lay things out.

 

[Marvel united]

It will be uncomfortable no matter what happens, especially since shuri isn't really set up to be the panther the way her comic counter part was. I do think with the recast there will have to be a sense of "campaigning" on marvel and the new hires part to get people comfortable with the idea of a new T'challa. All to say only after the appropriate amount of time is taken to really lay things out.

That's why this story could be compelling, emotional and powerful. Shuri is NOT ready but she is thrust into this role because she has to step up to the plate. That's life. That's what happens sometimes. She will have Okoye and Nakia to support her

 

[Mysteryman]

Delay BP2. Introduce the new T'Challa in the new FF film after all, T'Challa was introduced in FF comics to begin with.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Delay BP2. Introduce the new T'Challa in the new FF film after all, T'Challa was introduced in FF comics to begin with.

I am pretty sure regardless, BPII will be delayed. Ryan Coogler in his write up about Chadwick's passing says he was writing the script with the intention of Chadwick playing T'Challa. So as of right now, BPII is still T'Challa's story. I am sure everyone will take time off from doing stuff to grieve, but if they make a new character Black Panther, then they would need basically a page 1 rewrite. That will take a lot of time. If they decide to recast T'Challa and keep the story the same, they still will likely need time to pick a new T'Challa, allow them time to train for the role, etc. They may even in this route want to put new T'Challa in something else like you suggested. Get people used to them before the solo movie. This movie would have to start in like 6ish months to make the current date. Given this tragic passing, I see that not being likely.

Regardless of what they do, I see this being delayed

 

[Zarex]

Without Black Panther nobody would give a s**t. Nobody would even remember who the guy was in ten years.
Your brilliant idea is like trying flush the character he is most known for down the toilet.

Who are you talking about? Is it that Charleston Boswell everyone's going on and on about on the Twitter machine?

Delay BP2. Introduce the new T'Challa in the new FF film after all, T'Challa was introduced in FF comics to begin with.

What about introducing Azzuri in a 60s era Fantastic Four movie?

 

[Fincher]

My point is a choice has to be made whether Black Panther is the man wearing the clothing, or if it’s the clothing itself. It’s either Batman or Green Lantern.

Okay, but the choice was already made in the first movie, and the choice made was that Black Panther is part of being king of Wakanda, which is passed from person to person according to rules that they've laid out. Other Black Panthers isn't some vague background detail, either, it's fundamental to that movie's narrative/themes. I generally favor superhero personas being tied to the individual, but it is what it is.