The Avengers Should this movie be based more on the Avengers or the Ultimates?

[roach]

I dont doubt it....however you are assuming...the only thing we know is that he will be in the movie and he will have a bow and arrow

 

[SuperFerret]

As long as he actually wears a costume, I'll be happy.



And it better be purple.

 

[roach]

As long as he actually wears a costume, I'll be happy.



And it better be purple.

i feel the same why but I doubt it

 

[SuperFerret]

I don't know. We're getting a hell of a lot of "comic booky" elements. Putting Clint in his 616 suit isn't that far off from the Asgardian's costumes and the Infinity Gauntlet in Thor and possibility of the Cosmic Cube being included in Cap.

 

[roach]

depends on who designs it...if it was the guys behind Thor then im ok...if its the guys behind Cap then im not

 

[SuperFerret]

I'll give you that one.

 

[The Question]

The guys who designed Cap kept most of the classic costume elements. In fact, besides the fewer stripes and lack of wings, it's just the 616 costume made out of different materials.

 

[SuperFerret]

It fails in its mission to be acceptable by just falling short of what it could've been. An extra stripe, red(der) gloves and boots, and the wings (even if they were painted on) would have made it much better. What we got was like getting a 69% on a test you needed 70% to pass.

 

[roach]

the costume design on the two costumes is caused by two separate thoughts

On Thor they took his costume from the comics and Hollywood-ized it

On the Cap suit they decided it was silly looking and decided to take what they thought wasnt needed out of the design.

 

[The Question]

I guess. Either way, I wouldn't mind an updated design for Hawkeye as long as he was recognizable as Hawkeye. Cap is recognizable as Cap, so at least that's something.

 

[roach]

i agree but I think they are gonna look at the Hawkeye costume and deem it silly and change it

 

[The Question]

i agree but I think they are gonna look at the Hawkeye costume and deem it silly and change it

Like I said, as long as he's recognizable as Hawkeye, I won't mind too much. I might be a little disappointed, like I am with the lack of wings and stripes on Cap's suit, but it also won't bother me too much.

 

[The Overlord]

is the movie called Avengers or Ultimates????
what parts of Spider-man and Iron Man were based on the Ultimates

The genetically altered spider in Spider-Man and the fact Tony is more of a fun drunk then a depressing drunk.

 

[Original Spawn]

Shouldn´t we add a poll to this?
It would be more interesting with a poll.

 

[SuperFerret]

Not really. Things tend to be less interesting with a poll, since you'll just have people coming in to vote and the same four guys actually discussing it with words.

 

[Aztec]

I liked the simplicity of the Ultimates plot and the epic, large scale, action packed feel. I also loved Hitch's art work. With that in mind I wouldn't use most of the characterizations from The Ultimates.

 

[SuperFerret]

The thing about that is that there's nothing "Ultimate" about the plot, aside from the characterizations.

 

[Original Spawn]

I hope thay introduce a new villain but use the plot and feeling of the original avengers story.

 

[ArtTeacher]

I would rather cough blood from my eyes than see a big-screen version of the cannibalistic rapist Hulk that was in The Ultimates.

 

[Tony Stark]

The real answer is that it will be it's own unique entity, but it will borrow elements from both. It's almost the way Ultimate Avengers the animated show was done. It was based on the Ultimates but there's alot of 616 in there.

I think it would have been a great joke though at comicon to have David Hasselhoff introduce Samuel L. Jackson.

 

[Blader5489]

Like other Marvel movies, The Avengers should mix the characterizations of the 616 comics with the modern sensibilities of the Ultimate comics.

 

[The Question]

The genetically altered spider in Spider-Man and the fact Tony is more of a fun drunk then a depressing drunk.

Tony has always been a fun drunk. It's part of his playboy persona. Demon in a Bottle was depressing because of how thoroughly he'd hit rock bottom. And the scene and Iron Man 2 did play up how pathetic Tony had become by that point along with the comedy and action.

 

[The Question]

The thing about that is that there's nothing "Ultimate" about the plot, aside from the characterizations.

I disagree. The Ultimates did a good job of taking the basic premise of The Avengers' origin story (the team gets together to fight The Hulk, Loki turns out to be the Big Bad), and make it into something epic and befitting the Earth's Mightiest Heroes. They should at least think to do something very similar in that regard.

 

[Stripesy Strip]

Not really. Most of the Tony Stark we saw was him playboying it up, in the first film because it was pre-Iron Man, in the second because he was kind of hitting rock bottom what with the stress of being a super hero and his condition. 616 Tony could get just as cocky and wild when not getting down to brass tacks. When he was in the suit and doing his job, he was just as serious and pragmatic as 616 Tony.

He was not serious a whole lot in those movie. He's Ultimate Tony all the way. 616 is much more serious.

So far it's been Ultimate Iron Man and Ultimate Nick Fury. Black Widow is not any version I know. In Incredible Hulk they had a similar super soldier origin that was in the Ultimates. But i'm not sure where they're going with this. Maybe Hulk was more the one from the 70s tv show. Not sure what they're going to do with Hawkeye. I figure he's going to be 616 Hawkeye with Ultimate Hawkeye's outfit...?

 

[Aztec]

He was not serious a whole lot in those movie. He's Ultimate Tony all the way. 616 is much more serious.

So far it's been Ultimate Iron Man and Ultimate Nick Fury. Black Widow is not any version I know. In Incredible Hulk they had a similar super soldier origin that was in the Ultimates. But i'm not sure where they're going with this. Maybe Hulk was more the one from the 70s tv show. Not sure what they're going to do with Hawkeye. I figure he's going to be 616 Hawkeye with Ultimate Hawkeye's outfit...?

Ultimate Tony is a joke. He's never serious, emotional, caring; he's simply a drunk with a super suit. The MCU Tony is nowhere near as extreme.

They HAVE to use Ultimate Hawkeye (the badass SHIELD agent) IMHO. The traditional Hawkeye just wouldn't work on screen.