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I duno. I was just quoting the other dudes. I wouldnt even use the word 'mafia'... its too cool a term to associate with the SV fanbase.
Crisis Superman said:I duno. I was just quoting the other dudes. I wouldnt even use the word 'mafia'... its too cool a term to associate with the SV fanbase.
Mentok said:Its only a small number of SV fans that give the others a bad name.
Scooter said:What the world needs now...
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Milkman95 said:Damn, harsh words against SV. You're lucky the SV mafia isn't here yet..............
IKnowSomeJudo said:It's a crappy teenage show for MTV-watching losers, who cares if it ties up in an way with SR? Just flush it down the toilet with the rest of kiddy crap shows and bring on the real thing already.
Scooter said:Well, I'd say that was petty, but I get the feeling your used to it...
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Crisis Superman said:Not at all, I just have too much respect for the mafia, and too little for the majority of SV fans.
It may not be YOUR Superman but it IS Superman to quite a few people whether you like it or not. It's every bit as important to the mythos as Superman Returns or Lois and Clark or the Donner film. They may not fit your ideal mold of what Superman should be but then again, it doesn't have to.Crisis Superman said:Smallville isnt Superman at all though.
Skru, this is where I'm going to have to disagree with you. The people who usually associate Smallville as being a good representation of Superman are a bit off kilter in that respect, if you ask me. If shoddy writing, horrendous dialogue, and bad acting (most notably by the show's lead, no less) are what determines the show's worth, then I guess I have no concept of what Superman should represent. To me, Smallville is about as important to the cumulative Superman mythos as a Barbara Streisand CD. For my fix of a teen-angst superhero, I watch Spider-Man. SPIDER-MAN. Not Suckville.skruloos said:It may not be YOUR Superman but it IS Superman to quite a few people whether you like it or not. It's every bit as important to the mythos as Superman Returns or Lois and Clark or the Donner film. They may not fit your ideal mold of what Superman should be but then again, it doesn't have to.
skruloos said:It may not be YOUR Superman but it IS Superman to quite a few people whether you like it or not. It's every bit as important to the mythos as Superman Returns or Lois and Clark or the Donner film. They may not fit your ideal mold of what Superman should be but then again, it doesn't have to.
skruloos said:It may not be YOUR Superman but it IS Superman to quite a few people whether you like it or not. It's every bit as important to the mythos as Superman Returns or Lois and Clark or the Donner film. They may not fit your ideal mold of what Superman should be but then again, it doesn't have to.
KaptainKrypton said:Skru, this is where I'm going to have to disagree with you. The people who usually associate Smallville as being a good representation of Superman are a bit off kilter in that respect, if you ask me. If shoddy writing, horrendous dialogue, and bad acting (most notably by the show's lead, no less) are what determines the show's worth, then I guess I have no concept of what Superman should represent. To me, Smallville is about as important to the cumulative Superman mythos as a Barbara Streisand CD. For my fix of a teen-angst superhero, I watch Spider-Man. SPIDER-MAN. Not Suckville.I'm ready for battle, Wellingites.
See... I'm not even a Wellingite or a fan of Smallville. I never said that Smallville was a good representation of Superman. All I said was that it was a representation of Superman. Does it have bad acting? Yes. Bad dialogue? A lot of times. Bad writing? Sure. But then again, there are many instances of Superman comics that have bad writing and dialogue. If quality determined Superman's worth to me, I'd cut out decades of comics.KaptainKrypton said:Skru, this is where I'm going to have to disagree with you. The people who usually associate Smallville as being a good representation of Superman are a bit off kilter in that respect, if you ask me. If shoddy writing, horrendous dialogue, and bad acting (most notably by the show's lead, no less) are what determines the show's worth, then I guess I have no concept of what Superman should represent. To me, Smallville is about as important to the cumulative Superman mythos as a Barbara Streisand CD. For my fix of a teen-angst superhero, I watch Spider-Man. SPIDER-MAN. Not Suckville.I'm ready for battle, Wellingites.
But when a show totally destroys the character and his motivations, then its not even a reiterpretation of Superman anyomore. Its a Superman in name only.skruloos said:See... I'm not even a Wellingite or a fan of Smallville. I never said that Smallville was a good representation of Superman. All I said was that it was a representation of Superman. Does it have bad acting? Yes. Bad dialogue? A lot of times. Bad writing? Sure. But then again, there are many instances of Superman comics that have bad writing and dialogue. If quality determined Superman's worth to me, I'd cut out decades of comics.
Smallville is a reinterpetation of the mythos. You don't have to like it. It might be absolute crap. That doesn't mean it isn't Superman. It's just not your vision of Superman. But then agian, it was never meant to be. It was supposed to be a reinterpretation.
Ding ding ding! Give the guy a prize! He's not supposed to be the Superman you know! He's a new version of a classic character!SpiderDaniel said:I repeat. Tom Welling will never be the Superman I know and the one who`s comming back in June!!
Whether it "destroys" the character is debatable. Dramatic license is taken by the show in order to create dramatic stories that haven't been done in the comics. Otherwise, they're just regurgitating Superboy stories. If they played the show only within the boundaries of what you wanted, then it would be very limited in what it could do dramatically. They have to create their own mythology and set of melodramatic instances in order to sustain the show. Do I like it? No. But that's fine. I don't like everything in the comics either.SpiderDaniel said:But when a show totally destroys the character and his motivations, then its not even a reiterpretation of Superman anyomore. Its a Superman in name only.
Come back when you're ready to actually have a debate and not just throwing inane insults.SpiderDaniel said:No. he is not even a version of the character. Oh hell...hes not even an actor...ahaha