Smartest Characters in the Marvel Universe

[torkibe]

Honestly, if google was the way I wanted to go, I would've known his IQ, now would'nt have I? The answer is much more simple. I didn't know his IQ. lol

You're giving me ten more actions than I would take.

So then you lied?

Most interesting. Isn't it? Though, I don't lie.

Hmmm... Again, we find contradictions in your logic. Well, if I can trip you up, I must be smarter than Stephen Hawking. I'm going to bed now, secure in the fact that I am a super genius.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

So then you lied?



Hmmm... Again, we find contradictions in your logic. Well, if I can trip you up, I must be smarter than Stephen Hawking. I'm going to bed now, secure in the fact that I am a super genius.

As am I...I'll add you to the list next to Galactust:

 

[A.J.Rimmer(BSC)]

Super human intellects (Or seemingly so): Intellects beyond measure
Reed Richards
Dr Doom
Galactus up
Silver Surfer
Adam Warlock
Tony Stark
Mr Sinister
Thanos
Dr Strange
the Ancient One
High Evolutionary

Super Genius: Between 165-200+
Amadeus Cho (Computer Hacking....unknown intelligence levels)
Spider-Man (Peter Parker)
Bruce Banner up
Madison Jefferies
Hank McCoy up
Charles Francis Xavier
Phineas T. Horton.
Black Panther (T'Challa)
Master of the World
Forge (aid by powers)
Hank Pym up
Dr Otto Otavius
Roger Bochs

Genius (140-160)
Sage up
Shadowcat (Katherine Pryde) down
Namor
Stane
Magneto (alias Erik Lenshirr)
Dr. Curt Conners
Nick Fury
Arnim Zola

Gifted in specific areas (requiring high degrees of intelligence)
Captain America (battle tactics)
Punisher (weaponry, ballistics and battle tact)
Cyclops (Battle tact, strategy and geometry)
White Queen (Psychology and the human mind)
Dr Erskin (Chemistry...not enough data on other achievements) up
the Professor (Human engineering...not enough data available)
Stryfe (Genetics)
Kingpin (Economics)
Red Skull (Politics and Manipulation)
Matt Murdock (Law)
Foggy Nelson (Law)
Wanda Maximof (Magic)
Shang Chi (Martial Arts)
Paste Pot Pete (Traping and tracking) up


Note the list simply samples characters it is not comprehensive.[/QUOTE]


AI shouldn't count, as they are only intelligent as their creators designed them to be.


Paste Pot Pete is a brilliant chemist, and whilst he is only smart in one area, his mental accomplishments in his field are greater or require greater intelligence than Shang Chi for example.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

From my Master Edition Handbook Sheets

Immeasurable

Supreme Intelligence
Surtur
Hela
Uatu the Watcher
Vishanti
Eon
Shaper of Worlds


Superhuman

High Evolutionary
Astronomer
Contemplator
Psycho Man
Modok


Extraordinary Genius

Magneto
Tyrannus
Apocalypse
Master of the World
Mole Man
Mandarin
Maelstrom
Tom Thumb


Genius

Shadowcat
Kingpin
Mr. Sinister
Fixer
Diablo
Midas
Obadiah Stane
Dr. Demonicus
Walter Langkowski
Ancient One
Dakimh
Manslaughter
Bruce Banner

Some I don't have the official sheets on but surprisingly Hank McCoy is only lister as Gifted. He isn't even an ordinary genius.

 

[Kitsune]

1. Reed Richards
2. Bruce Banner
3. Tony Stark
4. Charles Xavier (he's a mutant, so this one's sketchy)
5. Phineas Mason (Tinkerer)
6. Hank Pym
7. Otto Octavius
8. Peter Parker


This is a list of the smartest characters in the Marvel Universe in order.

I compiled this list based on what knowledge I have. It's probably incomplete and you'll likely disagree, so I'm hoping people (more knowledgable than I) will make their own and start an interesting debate.

Ahem... Victor Von Doom?
Paul Norbert Ebersol?
Samuel Sterns?
Bentley Wittman?


Otto and Phineas aren't the only smart villians

 

[November Rain]

I would put mr sinister in the super genius level personally.

 

[Kitsune]

I would put mr sinister in the super genius level personally.

Except that many of us try to pretend he never existed.

 

[November Rain]

what's wrong with nathanial essex?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

So then you lied?



Hmmm... Again, we find contradictions in your logic. Well, if I can trip you up, I must be smarter than Stephen Hawking. I'm going to bed now, secure in the fact that I am a super genius.

Don't be so quaint. I lie all the time. I'm human, there's no human that can go around without lying once in the while. Especially if it invites fun.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Intellects Beyond Comprehension
The Contemplator
The Celestials
Eternity
The Living Tribunal
(Virtually any abstract being)
The OAA
The Beyonder (pre-retcon)
Galactus
Uatu the Watcher
Supreme Intelligence

Super human intellects (Or seemingly so): Intellects beyond measure
Reed Richards
Dr Doom
Silver Surfer
Adam Warlock
Tony Stark
Mr Sinister
Thanos
Dr Strange
the Ancient One
High Evolutionary

Super Genius: Between 165-200+
Amadeus Cho (Computer Hacking....unknown intelligence levels)
Spider-Man (Peter Parker)
Bruce Banner
Madison Jefferies
Machinesmith.
Norman Osbourne
Hank McCoy
Charles Francis Xavier
Phineas T. Horton.
Black Panther (T'Challa)
Master of the World
Forge (aid by powers)
Hank Pym
Dr Otto Otavius
Roger Bochs

Genius (140-160)
Sage
Shadowcat (Katherine Pryde)
Namor
Stane
Magneto (alias Erik Lenshirr)
Dr. Curt Conners
Nick Fury
Arnim Zola

Gifted in specific areas (requiring high degrees of intelligence)
Captain America (battle tactics)
Punisher (weaponry, ballistics and battle tact)
Cyclops (Battle tact, strategy and geometry)
White Queen (Psychology and the human mind)
Dr Erskin (Chemistry...not enough data on other achievements)
the Professor (Human engineering...not enough data available)
Stryfe (Genetics)
Kingpin (Economics)
Red Skull (Politics and Manipulation)
Matt Murdock (Law)
Foggy Nelson (Law)
Wanda Maximof (Magic)
Shang Chi (Martial Arts)
Paste Pot Pete (Traping and tracking)
Donald Pierce (expert on cyborg technology)

A.I. Artificially Intelligent
Vision
Machine Man
Ultron
Jocasta
Super (Supreme) Adaptoid

Note the list simply samples characters it is not comprehensive.

I want to try to get this list comprehensive...so keep the suggestions coming.

 

[November Rain]

what level of intelligence has teh silver surfer shown, i didn't know that norrin ladd was an exceptional intellect before hand

i believe if all the earth based characters had done as much travelling as he has, they would rival his intelligence if not surpass it.

I would put banner in the beyond measure part, when ti comes to radiation, he is second to none.

 

[November Rain]

I would also put norman osborn in the super genius level at least.

the goblin formula enhanced his intelligence from this stage but he doesn't often use it.

saying this, making something to negate spiderman's powers, not once but numerous times must mean something.

and what about the guy/dude who created the sentinels, he should rank fairly highly also.

i would also put professor miles warren in the super genius level and move forge up a league.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

what level of intelligence has teh silver surfer shown, i didn't know that norrin ladd was an exceptional intellect before hand

i believe if all the earth based characters had done as much travelling as he has, they would rival his intelligence if not surpass it.

I would put banner in the beyond measure part, when ti comes to radiation, he is second to none.

Hmmm, I don't buy that Banner is as smart as Reed, Stark, and Doom. However I think he is in good company where he is at. McCoy his the foremost "human" (mutant with human brain capacity) scientist in genetics. While Banner shows certain amounts of skill his accomplisements are like that of building time machines or transcending into other dimensional planes. In fact he seems to be pretty grounded in reality. The one's on the top tier are accomplising things far beyond the scope of man.

Either way having an 1Q between 165-200 puts him on par with Steven Hawkings.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I would also put norman osborn in the super genius level at least.

the goblin formula enhanced his intelligence from this stage but he doesn't often use it.

That's a good suggestion.

and what about the guy/dude who created the sentinels, he should rank fairly highly also.

Bolivar Trask...probably up there, I'll look into him.

i would also put professor miles warren in the super genius level and move forge up a league.

Forge has powers, and I am not sure he comprehends all the powers grant him the ability to create. He "sees" how machines work, so it really is not any intellect at play...but he has to have enough to comprehend his visions.

 

[November Rain]

Hmmm, I don't buy that Banner is as smart as Reed, Stark, and Doom. However I think he is in good company where he is at. McCoy his the foremost "human" (mutant with human brain capacity) scientist in genetics. While Banner shows certain amounts of skill his accomplisements are like that of building time machines or transcending into other dimensional planes. In fact he seems to be pretty grounded in reality. The one's on the top tier are accomplising things far beyond the scope of man.

Either way having an 1Q between 165-200 puts him on par with Steven Hawkings.

well i wouldn't count spidey as a super-genius though, without his spider powers,i couldnt seem him creating anything extraordinary within his lifetime.

saying this, he does have an impromptu ability to design crap on a budget, he's a cheap version of mr fantastic in that respect but i believe bar webbing, his advancements have been grounded.

heck i would put ben reilly above parker for also making impact webbing, that's like proper off-the-wall intelligence since the mechanics have relatively nothing to do with the general structure used in normal webbing.

but alas, i am a reilly fanboy...

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Are we including just any character that has come into existance, or just reoccuring characters?

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Are we including just any character that has come into existance, or just reoccuring characters?

Any Marvel...even obscure ones...and Alternate Universe characters as well.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Well, how about the African American physicist who developed a machine that could penetrate Galactus' barrier that was holding the Silver Surfer back? I can't remember his name at the moment. I'm horrible with names. =/

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Well, how about the African American physicist who developed a machine that could penetrate Galactus' barrier that was holding the Silver Surfer back? I can't remember his name at the moment. I'm horrible with names. =/

Find out his name and I can look him up.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Damn, I'd have to go through my home database, which still isn't up. It was Silver Surfer Vol.1 is all I remember. I'll do what I can.

 

[Muze]

i'm nominating...

Machinesmith (a child prodigy by all accounts)
Donald Pierce (they might seem crude but he's an expert on cyborg tech)
&
Augusta Seger (aka the Albino from the Hawkeye one-shot)

 

[ShadowBoxing]

i'm nominating...

Machinesmith (a child prodigy by all accounts)
Donald Pierce (they might seem crude but he's an expert on cyborg tech)
&
Augusta Seger (aka the Albino from the Hawkeye one-shot)

For which categories. I would bet Machinesmith be in Super Genius.

 

[Muze]

For which categories. I would bet Machinesmith be in Super Genius.

Gifted in Certain areas for the other 2. i think Machinesmith qualifies as genius level.

 

[Caliber]

Dr Doom is the smartest then everyone else.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

The Master Edition Handbook listed Pierces intellegence as "above normal".