Snikt! Wolverine's Box Office Predictions

[EnDz0n3]

I think its funny how they're advertising Wolverine in commercials with "See the biggest movie of the Summer." They had to do that sooner as Star Trek will definitely overtake this film.

Not the biggest movie of the year though since Monsters Vs. Aliens has that title. Very undeserved though. MVA was crap.

Edit: ok looks like ST has already over taken Wolvie?

 

[kedrell]

Yep, 12 days is all it took.

 

[Theweepeople]

Most use a couple or a few. Star Trek was done by ILM and Digital Domain. For the LOTR trilogy, WETA and Digital Domain. For the POTC trilogy, ILM. Those companies are big names in the sfx world.


I think that is why some of the graphics and visual styles are not consistent throughout the film. The main thing is that whatever company did the claw effects, they need to be shut down.

I'm very surprised to hear that so many special effects companies were hired for this movie but, maybe this isn't very uncommon. What's more surprising is some of the top CGI companies weren't hired. WETA, ILM, or Digital Domain have been involved with 90% of sci-fi/fantasy/comic book film productions made in the last 10 years.

I think its funny how they're advertising Wolverine in commercials with "See the biggest movie of the Summer." They had to do that sooner as Star Trek will definitely overtake this film.

Not the biggest movie of the year though since Monsters Vs. Aliens has that title. Very undeserved though. MVA was crap.

Edit: ok looks like ST has already over taken Wolvie?

The funniest tv spot for the film aired the monday after star trek's release. The commercial started something like this "The reviews are in". Then of course we hear something positive about the film yet, the commerical fails to inform us on what reviewers actually enjoyed seeing it. It was also amusing that this tv spot aired right around the same time one for star trek was shown. That one went something like this "The reviews are in. Rolling Stone calls Star trek a burst of pure filmmaking exhilaration....... " This reminded me of Lion Gate's failed campaign in trying to hype up The Spirit.

 

[PSINGRAPHD]

Budgets in that range was definitely not unheard of at that time. For example the first Matrix had a production budget in the mid 60's.

Yeah, but even AT the time, speculators were surprised at the lowball figure of $75M. Remember, the stink of Batman & Robin was still permeating the senses back then, and everybody was extremely trepidatious towards the making of any more superhero movies. Especially that vile turd Rothman, who considered the X-Men a lost cause and had no respect for their potential. Don't forget, it was the "surprise" success of the first X-film that spawned the comic book movie renaissance, and the boon that we now enjoy today.

And GAWD, don't ever lump the X-Men in with ANYTHING involving Keanu-can't-act-Reeves! PLEASE, for the love of all that is holy! I've seen nightly newscasters emote more successfully than that talentless automaton could ever hope to... reading verbatim from a teleprompter no less! He couldn't act his way out of a school play! Lol. As you can probably tell, I'm not a fan, of him OR those overrated Matrix FX-gasms.

 

[PSINGRAPHD]

Running at $175 million domestic even though the entire movie has been on the Internet since early April is as amazing as it gets. Word of mouth is indeed strong for it to overcome that HUGE handicap.

O... M... G!!! U... R... DELUSIONAL!!!!!!! Get help fast, you have a serious case of fanboyism! Thankfully, it's not contagious, either that... or the rest of us are just naturally immune, lol.

(BTW- Wolverine's budget was $130 million)

Yeah, says who?! Links please, 'cause everything I've seen says $150M at least. You WO supporters are funny, in an out-of-touch-with-reality sorta way.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I'm not out of touch reality. If I remember correctly you shot me down for saying this film would make 300 mill WW. Well, who was right that time? Mr Box office know it all!

So if you wanna get technical, you were out of touch with reality in that case, because this film hitting 300 mill WW was inevitable, you just denied it because you don't like the film.

 

[PSINGRAPHD]

Its doing pretty darn well...despite being awful. I expect another massive fall with Terminator: Batman coming out this weekend.

Luvs it! Guess what though? Right now, Terminator is fairing worse than WO critically. It's only at 35% positive over at http://www.rottentomatoes.com/ , with 28 favorable and 53 ROTTEN so far. Poetic justice, or just plain old bad karma... you decide!(< re: CB's much publicised(& recorded for our entertainment, lol) rant)

Museum's doing somewhat better, though it's no gem either, and looks to be another mixed bag of mediocrity. Currently at 52%, with 11 pro and 10 con.

Too bad quality pics like Star Trek are the exception, and not the rule. Oh Hollywood, when will you ever learn?

 

[PSINGRAPHD]

I'm not out of touch reality. If I remember correctly you shot me down for saying this film would make 300 mill WW. Well, who was right that time? Mr Box office know it all!

So if you wanna get technical, you were out of touch with reality in that case, because this film hitting 300 mill WW was inevitable, you just denied it because you don't like the film.

WRONG, Knaves... AGAIN!!!!!!! God, your memory SUX!!! I'll say one thing, at least you're consistent, lol. Don't worry, I'm sure you look great with egg on your face, and you should be used to eating crow by now. By the time I came into this thread, WO was already at $250M WW I think, so... BEHOLD:

WO will settle in for maybe 300-320 (add 15-20 for Japan if it's actually not there yet) million WW and ST will do 400+. You can take that to the bank!

From my post on 5/13/09(last edited on 5/13 too) in this thread, #1209 on page 49. Read it & weep! No apologies necessary, as I take great joy in continually humbling you.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Well who was it then? I'm positive it was you. And how am I wrong, AGAIN. In fact, I was right. I said this film will hit 300 million WW and your exact response was "I assure you that won't happen". Then I questioned you on it and you said you have been following box office results for years and all that. Surely you remember it.

And I haven't got egg of my face and I'm not eating crow. Because even if it wasn't you, I proved someone wrong. And also all the doubters of a Deadpool film have been proved wrong when they told me I was deluded of hoping for a Deadpool film. So actually, I'm doing pretty well in the "proving people wrong" stakes

So yea, don't try and mug me off again. Because as I've just PROVED, I wasn't wrong, I was right.

 

[PSINGRAPHD]

God, your memory SUX!!!

Just wanted to add, much like your taste in movies.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Much like my taste in movies? You don't know nothing about me or the movies I like. You know what I hate? Movie snobs, and it seems you are one of them. Get off your high horse yea? I like all kinds of movies, I have ECLECTIC tastes. Do you know what that means? Surely you do seeing as your are sooo intelligent.

Don't try and mug me off, because I could abuse you for being an obsessive over box office results for no reason what-so-ever, but I'm not, because I'm not a prick. I could abuse you for continuinly posting in this thread, despite your blatant hate for the movie. Obsessed about something? Or do you just like going "Ohhh this movie is a failure!! The biggest X-Men failure!! Hardy hardy har!!" Seriously, go post some where else if that's all you have to offer to this thread. I'm sure someone else can provide the box office results, without snide remarks.

The fact is some one told me I was deluded for thinking this movie would make over 300 million WW. They are now proved wrong.

The fact is people were telling me I was deluded for thinking Deadpool would get a movie. They are now proved wrong.

So errr...yea. I was in the right all along.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Yeah, but even AT the time, speculators were surprised at the lowball figure of $75M. Remember, the stink of Batman & Robin was still permeating the senses back then, and everybody was extremely trepidatious towards the making of any more superhero movies. Especially that vile turd Rothman, who considered the X-Men a lost cause and had no respect for their potential. Don't forget, it was the "surprise" success of the first X-film that spawned the comic book movie renaissance, and the boon that we now enjoy today.

And GAWD, don't ever lump the X-Men in with ANYTHING involving Keanu-can't-act-Reeves! PLEASE, for the love of all that is holy! I've seen nightly newscasters emote more successfully than that talentless automaton could ever hope to... reading verbatim from a teleprompter no less! He couldn't act his way out of a school play! Lol. As you can probably tell, I'm not a fan, of him OR those overrated Matrix FX-gasms.

Not a Keanu fan either (nor Matrix fan for that matter) but with X2 atleast, Matrix (Reloaded) was the X-men's biggest competition at that time so it's inevitable that the X-men franchise would be compared to that Wachowski franchise.

 

[PSINGRAPHD]

Much like my taste in movies? You don't know nothing about me or the movies I like. You know what I hate? Movie snobs, and it seems you are one of them. Get off your high horse yea? I like all kinds of movies, I have ECLECTIC tastes. Do you know what that means? Surely you do seeing as your are sooo intelligent.

Don't try and mug me off, because I could abuse you for being an obsessive over box office results for no reason what-so-ever, but I'm not, because I'm not a prick. I could abuse you for continuinly posting in this thread, despite your blatant hate for the movie. Obsessed about something? Or do you just like going "Ohhh this movie is a failure!! The biggest X-Men failure!! Hardy hardy har!!" Seriously, go post some where else if that's all you have to offer to this thread. I'm sure someone else can provide the box office results, without snide remarks.

The fact is some one told me I was deluded for thinking this movie would make over 300 million WW. They are now proved wrong.

The fact is people were telling me I was deluded for thinking Deadpool would get a movie. They are now proved wrong.

So errr...yea. I was in the right all along.

Wow! Somebody's sure sensitive, lol. For God's sake, get a grip Knaves, you're embarrassing yourself. I was only kiddin', or didn't you notice the little smiley with a wink. You're a big boy aren't ya? So you should be able to take a lil' ribbin. I promise, I'll stop messin' with ya... but MAN, lighten up will ya? Sheesh!

 

[Ace of Knaves]

OK sorry I will. But it's kinda hard to tell that you were joking. And to be honest, A LOT of people on here make snide remarks then add a smiley to excuse themselves. I just don't like people that question others tastes in movies because they like a film that is deemed crap by others, when in a lot of cases, people just have eclectic tastes in movies. They might like a brainless action fest, but they also might like thought provoking dramas. Judging someones tastes in movies by using one example is pretty silly really.

 

[PSINGRAPHD]

Well who was it then? I'm positive it was you. And how am I wrong, AGAIN. In fact, I was right. I said this film will hit 300 million WW and your exact response was "I assure you that won't happen". Then I questioned you on it and you said you have been following box office results for years and all that. Surely you remember it.
And I haven't got egg of my face and I'm not eating crow. Because even if it wasn't you, I proved someone wrong. And also all the doubters of a Deadpool film have been proved wrong when they told me I was deluded of hoping for a Deadpool film. So actually, I'm doing pretty well in the "proving people wrong" stakes
So yea, don't try and mug me off again. Because as I've just PROVED, I wasn't wrong, I was right.

I think this movie will end up at about 200 million US, maybe 180-190. Add another 150-200 on top of that international. Some where around 300-350 WW when the dust settles IMO.

I can all but guarantee that this will NEVER happen, sorry.

Knaves, please note that I said the following:

I can all but guarantee that this will NEVER happen, sorry.

I've been following box office trends for over a decade now, both as a hobby and for professional reasons. Trust me, I'm no expert, but I do consider myself well-versed on the topic. I'm not antagonizing here, I'm just workin' with the facts, applying experience, and forming an educated guess as a result. I know you meant no ill will, I'm just sayin' is all.

Is this what you were referring to? Your constant reference to $300M is negligible, as none of the #'s from your original post would equal that. Lowest we get is 180 + 150, which = 330. Besides, I was referring to your high-end guesses of 200 & 200, that's why I bolded them(now, not originally, which may have lead to some confusion). Anyway, there was no way WO was EVER gonna reach $400M. But yes, WO IS doing better than I originally expected, though I NEVER thought it wouldn't reach at least $300M(& never said so I might add). I'll also point out the bolded "all but" before guarantee... once again. t: It's always good to leave the backdoor open when making predictions, don't ya know? Lol.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Ahhh I see. Well I apologize. I thought you were saying 300 million WW was never gonna happen. And yea 200 million US won't happen, I think it will end up around 160-170 US tops. 160-170 International 320-340 WW tops.

But I never really said 200 million International. I just left a lot of room for maneuver there

 

[CelticPredator]

Ace, get back to the Deadpool thread and check out my film, its on the page before the one we're currently on....

 

[PSINGRAPHD]

OK sorry I will. But it's kinda hard to tell that you were joking. And to be honest, A LOT of people on here make snide remarks then add a smiley to excuse themselves. I just don't like people that question others tastes in movies because they like a film that is deemed crap by others, when in a lot of cases, people just have eclectic tastes in movies. They might like a brainless action fest, but they also might like thought provoking dramas. Judging someones tastes in movies by using one example is pretty silly really.

Oh, trust me, I like PLENTY of movies that are considered crap by others... and they probably are, lol. In fact, I've actually bought some of them. The original "April Fool's Day" for instance, a horrible movie by every standard, is one of my greatest guilty pleasures. I get into some bad tv too... and some bad music to boot. I luv dumbing down once in a while, it's cathartic and good for the soul I believe.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea there is nothing wrong with liking things that maybe dumber compared to other things. I have eclectic tastes in everything from movies to music.

I was having a row with some prick on IMDB the other day. He was calling me stupid because I dared to give this film a 7/10. And he was saying I clearly have bad tastes in movies. I then mentioned films like The Nines, The Prestige and Memento. His reply? "I don't watch **** movies". All I could do was laugh at him.

 

[Heretic]

Luvs it! Guess what though? Right now, Terminator is fairing worse than WO critically. It's only at 35% positive over at http://www.rottentomatoes.com/ , with 28 favorable and 53 ROTTEN so far. Poetic justice, or just plain old bad karma... you decide!(< re: CB's much publicised(& recorded for our entertainment, lol) rant)

Museum's doing somewhat better, though it's no gem either, and looks to be another mixed bag of mediocrity. Currently at 52%, with 11 pro and 10 con.

Too bad quality pics like Star Trek are the exception, and not the rule. Oh Hollywood, when will you ever learn?

You know, when i saw the first trailer for Terminator I got really excted because it looked like itd be a good film. Then, for some reason that same footage started getting on my nerves and I decided that I just didnt think the movie would be any good and that id probably skip it on opening weekend. The critics seem to think its the latter...

I'm telling you guys...Star Trek is good, but lots of people are biased against the name...and none of the other blockbuster films are any good. I think viewer apathy could set in and hurt the overall box office this summer.

 

[danoyse]

PSINGRAPHD and Ace, quit the mindless bickering and get back on topic.

 

[topdog1]

Yeah, says who?! Links please, 'cause everything I've seen says $150M at least. You WO supporters are funny, in an out-of-touch-with-reality sorta way.

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idINN0332829820090503?rpc=44

"He called that figure 'fantastic,' and noted it topped the movie's production cost of around $130 million."

Keep the insults flowing!!!

 

[kedrell]

^They've been quoted with many different budget numbers. LA Times & EW reported that it was the most expensive X-Men film yet back in March. So I wouldn't accept 130M as gospel.

 

[Celestial]

Wolverine has lost 709 theatres but it still has 3183.

DeadlineHollywoodDaily reports that Terminator Salvation took around $3m in midnight screenings. Star Trek reportedly took $3m in midnight screenings but also $4m before midnight. Wolverine's midnight total was said to be around $5m. Does this mean that Terminator will fall short of expectations?

Yes, I'm feeling mean. I was happy to see Star Trek do well but I'm glad to see something other than Wolverine getting crapped on.

 

[danoyse]

Yes, I'm feeling mean. I was happy to see Star Trek do well but I'm glad to see something other than Wolverine getting crapped on.

It's totally mean...but yeah, I admit have been getting a laugh at the Tomatometer this week. And as a Star Trek fan from way back, I am loving the resurgence of that franchise.

And I do plan on seeing Terminator this weekend. But a friend of mine wants to see Wolverine tomorrow night, so I'll be seeing that too.