Comics So, Ben Reilly might becoming back

[Kool-Aid]

Asked if Marvel would ever consider bringing Ben Reilly back, the answer was a simple one: Keep reading Spider-Man.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=77848

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

If they ruin Ben, I will destroy Marvel.

 

[arachnid-guy]

oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeahhhhhhhhh!

Ben is BACK!

Score:

clones- 1

clone haters- 0

 

[Dr.Dude]

Watch as they bring him back now, just so they can kill him off again.... in a gorier way this time, after making him a villain....

 

[bulletbillx]

They could always use this to "undo" the unmasking, or have him smack peter upside the head for acting so dumb lately.

 

[ragingdemon155]

They could always use this to "undo" the unmasking, or have him smack peter upside the head for acting so dumb lately.

You know, that's exactly what I think is going to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if Ben Reilly was someone used as a way to "undo" the unmasking. We all know that Marvel is going to eventually go back on the unmasking and try to pretend like it never happened.

 

[TheFlyinRussian]

Haven't read the article but Ben Reilly is a character that can't just hang around after a story arc. The first time they "killed" him his body was thrown down a chimney (can't remember exactly), and the second time he was impaled in the back and turned into dust, so how can they bring him back?

 

[Dr.Dude]

Haven't read the article but Ben Reilly is a character that can't just hang around after a story arc. The first time they "killed" him his body was thrown down a chimney (can't remember exactly), and the second time he was impaled in the back and turned into dust, so how can they bring him back?

They could make a clone of him....

But yeah, that's the issue I have here too.... you don't want to give a character that "Jean Grey syndrome" of coming back to life over and over again to the point where people just roll their eyes everytime the character dies.

The other thing is that Ben's death was very effective --- a dramatic and heroic end that would make even his haters respect the character, if even for only a moment. Not only that, but by the time he died, he had fulfilled his purpose as a character.... there was nowhere else to take him, and in the end you can't have two Spider-Men.

But ah well.... guess we'll see where this goes.

 

[The Comedian]

Wha tif Benreilly shows up during civil war, on cap's side? The two Spideys battling

 

[TheFlyinRussian]

They could make a clone of him....

But yeah, that's the issue I have here too.... you don't want to give a character that "Jean Grey syndrome" of coming back to life over and over again to the point where people just roll their eyes everytime the character dies.

The other thing is that Ben's death was very effective --- a dramatic and heroic end that would make even his haters respect the character, if even for only a moment. Not only that, but by the time he died, he had fulfilled his purpose as a character.... there was nowhere else to take him, and in the end you can't have two Spider-Men.

But ah well.... guess we'll see where this goes.

Spot on. I have no idea how a character can return when he crumbled into dust. But we know these writers will pull off something extremely dumb.

 

[freemadison]

Haven't read the article but Ben Reilly is a character that can't just hang around after a story arc. The first time they "killed" him his body was thrown down a chimney (can't remember exactly), and the second time he was impaled in the back and turned into dust, so how can they bring him back?

Well the way that Ben died was very suspect. Clones (especially one like Ben who was considered "perfect") don't melt after they die. That explains the skeleton in the smokestack. It's surprising that Peter didn't notice this and he might have been a little too eager to accept that Ben is the clone. In the article "Life of Reilly", the assistant editor at the time of the Clone Saga, Glenn Greenburg, noticed that clones don't work that way to which Howard Mackie or Ralph Macchio (i don't remember) replied "It does in this case".

Either way, expect to see "Norman did it".

Although I'd much rather have "SHIELD did it". Way cooler.

 

[savemarvel]

Bring back Ben only shows that Marvel knows how much they messed up with the unmasking. Its a desperate move by a company that is trying to save face.

 

[Kool-Aid]

Or, because they want to bring back a cool character.

 

[Kevin]

they could just be bringing back the name. they may turn peter blond and name himself ben reiley. they could do that

 

[stillanerd]

they could just be bringing back the name. they may turn peter blond and name himself ben reiley. they could do that

That's exactly what I was thinking. Given how we've been getting hints that Spider-Tool (as long as he's in that "Iron Spidey" costume and Tony Stark's lapdog, I'm calling him that) will switch sides in Civil War, which would make Peter Parker a fugative from the law. However, since everyone knows now that Peter Parker is Spider-Man, Peter adopts the new civilain identity of "Ben Reilly," which will be the "status quo" for about a year-and-a-half. Of course, new and causal readers might end up getting confused and start asking all kinds of questions like "Why is Peter Parker calling himself Ben Reilly? How come everyone knows Peter Parker is Spider-Man, I thought his identity was a secret?" and then Marvel will have to explain everything that happened during Civil War so that readers can catch up. After all, new and causal readers were confused when they initially asked during the Clone Saga "Who's Ben Reilly? Who is this blond guy working at a coffee shop dressed like Spider-Man? I thought Peter Parker was Spider-Man? What happened to Peter Parker?"

 

[bulletbillx]

What if all the blatent stuff about spidey switching sides is a bait and switch as Ben comes back and joins Captain America while Peter stays pro-reg?

 

[freemadison]

What if all the blatent stuff about spidey switching sides is a bait and switch as Ben comes back and joins Captain America while Peter stays pro-reg?

heh. that certainly fits the whole "brother vs. brother" civil war angle they keep promoting that we haven't literally seen yet.

 

[storyteller]

Ben will reveal himself to be the real peter and explain that his clones lack balls with the exception of kain.

 

[Kool-Aid]

That's exactly what I was thinking. Given how we've been getting hints that Spider-Tool (as long as he's in that "Iron Spidey" costume and Tony Stark's lapdog, I'm calling him that) will switch sides in Civil War, which would make Peter Parker a fugative from the law. However, since everyone knows now that Peter Parker is Spider-Man, Peter adopts the new civilain identity of "Ben Reilly," which will be the "status quo" for about a year-and-a-half. Of course, new and causal readers might end up getting confused and start asking all kinds of questions like "Why is Peter Parker calling himself Ben Reilly? How come everyone knows Peter Parker is Spider-Man, I thought his identity was a secret?" and then Marvel will have to explain everything that happened during Civil War so that readers can catch up. After all, new and causal readers were confused when they initially asked during the Clone Saga "Who's Ben Reilly? Who is this blond guy working at a coffee shop dressed like Spider-Man? I thought Peter Parker was Spider-Man? What happened to Peter Parker?"

I wouldn't call him a tool, he sorta redeemed himself the last issue of AMS.

If they go that route though, then Pete can't go by his real name anymore and we'll get Ben back in away, but there'll be no Pete anymore and that would suck. They might aswell just bring back Ben, its less confusing and less people will be pissed off.

Ben will reveal himself to be the real peter and explain that his clones lack balls with the exception of kain.

LMAO

 

[The Geek Vault]

What if the new Daredevil is Ben!

 

[stillanerd]

I wouldn't call him a tool, he sorta redeemed himself the last issue of AMS.

Well, it doesn't seem that way in Civil War #3, but yeah, it seems that he's at least FINALLY beginning to see that he might have been duped.

If they go that route though, then Pete can't go by his real name anymore and we'll get Ben back in away, but there'll be no Pete anymore and that would suck. They might aswell just bring back Ben, its less confusing and less people will be pissed off.

Probably, but given that it looks like Peter is going to be switching sides sometime during Civil War and that everyone knows who he is now, he'll have to resort to taking an alias to walk around as a civilain until the eventual memory wipe by Dr. Strange or Madame Web or the "I was pretending to be Spider-Man to protect the real Spider-Man" scenario happens. After all, a similar situation happened in Spider-Man: House of M, in that, thanks to Peter sabotaging his own career by becoming the Green Goblin, he had to resort going into hiding since the whole world in that reality knew Peter was Spider-Man. Same thing here. And yeah, I would agree that it does suck and people would be pretty pissed off. That's what happens when you take something too far without realizing the consequences.

 

[Kaleb]

ok what if Spiderman switches sides, and joins the anti reg team. Didnt Captain America say that they all have to come up with new identities cause their current ones are compramised , what if Peter Parker takes up the name Ben Reilly. ?

just a thought

 

[SpideyInATree]

You guys do know that the Ultimate Clone Saga is going on in Ultimate Spider-Man, right?

And that there IS an Ultimate Ben Reilly, right?

Well, personally, I think that's what he's talking about. Keep reading "Spider-Man" and you'll see Ben Reilly, although it's in the Ultimate Universe and he's a black lab assistant...but it's still Ben Reilly.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

The three main possibilities so far:

1) new secret ID
2) Ultimate version
3) Brought back as a way of getting rid of the unmasking

Personally I go for (1), methinks.

 

[Dyeathrose]

I can't find myself really wanting to celebrate; as complicaited and headache inducing the Clone Saga was for me, I still loved Ben, but I'm pretty sure if he as a character was brought back, he'd be suffering through the exact same cramps as Peter and the rest, with a lack of consistant writing and poor characterization. In 616, I wouldn't mind Peter taking over the name Ben Reilly as a cover if he needed to, but I agree with SIAT that it's probably more of a hint at Ultimate. What a decent ploy, or at least wording, to get people pumped into buying.