Comics So, Ben Reilly might becoming back

[freemadison]

Assuming Ben is brought back to the 616 universe for any reason, what would be the possiblities? Here's my list.

1) Peter defects to the Anti-Reg movement and SHIELD gives the comatose Ben Reilly to Stark who subsequently gives him Pete's old suit.
2) Ben is Daredevil (But i KNOW he isn't).
3) Ben miraculously returns wearing the original Spidey suit and joins the Anti-Reg movement. Ben dies (again) and everyone thinks that Peter is dead. Peter takes the name "Ben Reilly" in honor of him.
4) Macgargan is a Peter Parker clone.
5) Kaine appears out of the shadows and breaks Baron Zemo's neck and becomes the new leader of the Thunderbolts.
6) It doesn't matter what happens, Stan Lee loves it anyways (and he won't read it either).
7) Ben comes back as an A-list villian ala Red Hood and wants revenge on Osborn and Peter, doesn't care about anti or pro reg, and deals his own lethal brand of justice.
8) Ben comes back and joins the Pro-Reg and outs himself as being Spider-Man. He also claims to the public to be Peter's twin brother who Peter has been protecting and helping for years. He says that Peter tried to protect him too much when he revealed himself as being Spider-Man. Everyone buys his story (the fictional public and we do with our cash). Then Thor smashes Ben's head.
9) The guy who died in Revelations was really Peter (Ben died his hair back to brown and then died Peter blonde in his sleep) and so the Spider-Man we've been reading for the last 10 years was really Ben Reilly. Which explains why everything clone related hasn't been mentioned in the last 10 years and why Spidey makes clone jokes (he doesn't wanna get caught).
10) JMS wipes his ass with paper and has Ron Garney outline the ****.

I'll put my money on 10. Heh, or 4.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

yes.

 

[arachnid-guy]

hmmph

 

[Kool-Aid]

I like number 5....but it doesn't have to be his neck it could be anyones and still be cool.

 

[Kaleb]

i dont see why they would hint at something that already exist , I mean there is already a ben reilly in ultimate, why didnt he just mention tht in the interview.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Say that, for some insanely mysterious reason, that they do bring back Ben Reilly in the regular universe....

That means you'd have to bring back Kaine.

That means you'd have to further acknowledge Baby May and what her fate truly was.

Basically, Marvel would have to pretty much stir up all the stuff that they tried sweeping under the rug 10 years ago. But it would be a rather odd strategy, and a ridiculously risky one if they were doing it soon.

Just seems to me that Quesada is making that hint because Ultimate Ben Reilly will be appearing back in Ultimate Spider-Man soon, considering the Ultimate Clone Saga going on. If Ultimate Ben Reilly DOESN'T appear in USM than we have a confirmation on the regular universe, heh.

 

[Kraven]

This would be an interesting development, but I highly doubt that Marvel would do that, especially after working so hard to ignore it. Unless of course they mean Ultimate Marvel, I can see why he'd say that for the Ult. Universe.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

JQ lives to keep us chatting about stuff he's said. he must be so happy. he said, what? 3 words and now look whats happened. plus i think JQ, SIAT, would be the first to tell you kaine and ben reilly arent attached at the hip. kaine wouldnt NEED to come back..

 

[Dr.Dude]

Hmm, thinking out loud.... but if they wanted to get out of the identity reveal, could they somehow use Ben to do it, without actually resurrecting him?

I'm thinking this because I seem to remember a story during the Clone Saga, where some newspaper photographer got a photo of Ben changing into Spidey.... I think it was the daughter of the burglar who killed Uncle Ben, or something?

Of course that'd mean going back into the oh-so-terrifying archives of continuity....

 

[Miss Webb]

Frankly, what would be the point of bringing him back? I don't want rehash and a duplicate "Peter" life all over again. And considering the events of the "other", Pete and Ben would no longer be the same anyway.

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

We actually don't have a confirmation on anything.

If I recall, Mr. Q never said anything concrete, just something like "Maaaaybe." That's not necessarily anything.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

he said "keep reading marvel". thats pretty much a "yes" as to whether he'll be back but isnt clear on whether its in ultimate or mainstream.

 

[arachnid-guy]

Hmm, thinking out loud.... but if they wanted to get out of the identity reveal, could they somehow use Ben to do it, without actually resurrecting him?

I'm thinking this because I seem to remember a story during the Clone Saga, where some newspaper photographer got a photo of Ben changing into Spidey.... I think it was the daughter of the burglar who killed Uncle Ben, or something?

Of course that'd mean going back into the oh-so-terrifying archives of continuity....

ah you are correct. That would work so much better....

I'm going to find that issue now...her name was Jessica and she had black hair, didn't she?

 

[Kaleb]

wasnt she the daughter or granddaughter of the burgler who killed Uncle Ben?

 

[Dr.Dude]

Correct on both of the above two posts.... just looked her up, her full name was Jessica Carradine.

Apparently she ended up giving the photos back to Reilly, but even so it still strikes me as being a really creative way to get out of this whole deal.

 

[crivelliman]

I don't think they're going to resurrect Ben, but I do like the concept of his secret identity being the old name. However, it seems that Marvel enjoys using the Clone Saga as it's whipping boy every time they **** up.

"Didn't like 'The Other?' Better than the Clone Saga!"
"Don't like those organic web shooters? At least he's not a clone!"
"Don't like that Iron Spidey suit? At least it's not a torn hoodie!"
"Don't like Gwen nailing Osborn? At least Peter's not nailing MJ...with the back of his hand!"

They're either really still embarrassed about the Clone Saga, or they have no intetion of slowing down the suck as far as Spider-Man stories go. And if they're going to keep the crap coming, they'd better have something heavy to compare it to that doesn't belong to current creators. So it looks like the Clone Saga is going to be buried but not forgotten, but not endeared in any way. I have a feeling, since there already is a Ben Reilly in the Ultimate 'verse, that this is the direction the article was steering us towards.

What's more upsetting is the thing that caused me to give up comics all together (the Clone Saga) is looking better than every Spider-Man story since Sins Past. Now -that- is scary. I'm not ready to throw in the towel and admit to liking the Clone Saga. Far from it. But I do remember at least caring what happened during the Clone Saga.

 

[freemadison]

I don't want rehash and a duplicate "Peter" life all over again. And considering the events of the "other", Pete and Ben would no longer be the same anyway.

Well, if they're no longer the same then they wouldn't be duplicates would they?

I like the Jessica Carradine idea but wouldn't the public make the connection that Ben Reilly is Peter's purported cousin? Wouldn't they also believe that since he's in a different Spidey suit, he is, in fact, a different/replacement Spidey (which he was).

 

[freemadison]

I don't think they're going to resurrect Ben, but I do like the concept of his secret identity being the old name. However, it seems that Marvel enjoys using the Clone Saga as it's whipping boy every time they **** up.

very true

"Didn't like 'The Other?' Better than the Clone Saga!"
"Don't like those organic web shooters? At least he's not a clone!"
"Don't like that Iron Spidey suit? At least it's not a torn hoodie!"
"Don't like Gwen nailing Osborn? At least Peter's not nailing MJ...with the back of his hand!"

Hahahaha.

They're either really still embarrassed about the Clone Saga, or they have no intetion of slowing down the suck as far as Spider-Man stories go. And if they're going to keep the crap coming, they'd better have something heavy to compare it to that doesn't belong to current creators. So it looks like the Clone Saga is going to be buried but not forgotten, but not endeared in any way. I have a feeling, since there already is a Ben Reilly in the Ultimate 'verse, that this is the direction the article was steering us towards.

Sadly, you're probably correct.

What's more upsetting is the thing that caused me to give up comics all together (the Clone Saga) is looking better than every Spider-Man story since Sins Past. Now -that- is scary. I'm not ready to throw in the towel and admit to liking the Clone Saga. Far from it. But I do remember at least caring what happened during the Clone Saga.

I enjoyed the Clone Saga but even after it ended I still liked the relevancy Spider-Man had with Norman Osborn back in town. Spidey's life still felt important and relevant (Until the reboot ). Now everything's a rehash.

IMO, a Ben Reilly return would essentially be the return of the last time Spider-Man had any relevancy.

 

[Citizen_Kaine]

My money is on Black Reilly over in Ultimate, or possibley the good clone in that particular storyline

Or Ben Reilly, which Peter uses as an alias after Civil War