So, exactly how much music is Chris Young composing?

[Catman]

Hello, Gwen Stacy/Peter Parker's theme. That's the new romance theme that he speaks of.

Maybe, but he never said that. He said three Elfman themes that were being included and in those three the Peter/MJ love theme was not included. SO, he IMPLIED that he had created a new love theme for Peter and MJ.

 

[rockportspidey]

Horrible, typical Elfman music found in most of his scores throughout the decade, now we know why it didn't make the cut. I told you, the man can't score action scenes. And we all know Elfman is the King of repetitive music. Thus, is why they didn't play the Spider-Man Movie Theme during the Oscars when Tobey/Kirsten presented, instead, they went with the classic 60s music. You wanna know why, because the audience would have thought, why are they playing Batman's music...and where's Michael Keaton?

Hello, Gwen Stacy/Peter Parker's theme. That's the new romance theme that he speaks of.

I wouldn't have minded seeing Michael Keaton myself...t:

Either way Visionary, Young is incorporating a lot of Elfman into this score from what we've seen so far. So you're just going to have to deal with it my friend

 

[Secret_Riddle]

Well the peter m.j theme is used often in scenarios not involving peter and m.j so maybe young doesnt think of that as a theme, maybe he thinks of it more as a cue that can be used as filler in some scenes, and thus didnt think to include it in returning themes, even though hes using it.

The music in that clip went well with the scene, and knowing raimi, he loves his temp scores and he loves continuity.

 

[Visionary]

Maybe, but he never said that. He said three Elfman themes that were being included and in those three the Peter/MJ love theme was not included. SO, he IMPLIED that he had created a new love theme for Peter and MJ.

He doesn't have to imply it, it's common-sense. You think that they're going to introduce a new love interest as popular amongst geeks as Gwen, and play the Peter/MJ theme, just use a brain cell or two.

Either way Visionary, Young is incorporating a lot of Elfman into this score from what we've seen so far. So you're just going to have to deal with it my friend

I'm dealing just fine. I know how films this big work and need their continuity, even in music. Unfortunately, it's Elfman's. However, Sandman, Gwen Stacy, The symbiote and Venom won't be stained by the almighty circus music that you clowns like so much--we both can't have our cake and eat too.

 

[Spidey-Sean]

I liked Danny Elfman's stuff and I liked Young's train sequence and the new clip too. I appreciate that they're incorporating some of Eflman's scores into the scenes, like the Goblin undertone heard in the clip. It keeps it familar, but fresh too. I think a lot of the cartoony criticism comes from the fact that the whole scene was a little cartoony, (some of the CGI and sound effects for example. I said I liked those sound effects before, but maybe to take the edge of they'll add some different ones (e.g. the plane diving sound and things like that).

 

[Danny Elfman]

I'm trying to make a point for 3 pages but people who actually liked Elfman's work are still clowns for M.Visionary just because he said so.
Ok. Bye bye.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

What Young wrote was repetitive and uninspired. Here's Elfman's version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNaMn2CSHx0

Are you trying to make Elfman look bad on purpose? You call Young "repetitive" but then you post a clip of Elfman basically recycling the same damn music he used when Peter was chasing Ben's killer in SM1? You can't hear that?!? Jesus man lol.

 

[bingy13]

I am a big Elfman follower... His train sequence music is clearly superior on it's own compared to Young's... However... Who knows which one fits better in the actual context of the film with dialogue and sound effects added in? I've never been terribly impressed by Young's work, but Ghost Rider was a fun score, so maybe there is hope for SM3.

I have a feeling that SM3's score is going to be a lot like Superman Returns. Great themes, but not used properly...because it's not the rightful composer. Ottman is no where near as talented as Young, but they both have a lot in common when in comes to scoring action in that they're both all over the place, jumping from one idea to the next connected by cliche big brass chase music.

P.S.
The Batman theme isn't that similar to Spider-Man's at all.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

Ive never seen the similarities either, but im probably missing something.

 

[Visionary]

I'm trying to make a point for 3 pages but people who actually liked Elfman's work are still clowns for M.Visionary just because he said so.
Ok. Bye bye.

Don't be so thin-skinned. It was a joke. Notice the...

We know you love Elfman, in fact, I'm the one who's in the minority here, most seem to love his work.

 

[Visionary]

when in comes to scoring action in that they're both all over the place, jumping from one idea to the next connected by cliche big brass chase music.

You've just describe Elfman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNaMn2CSHx0

P.S.
The Batman theme isn't that similar to Spider-Man's at all.

Yeah, it is.

 

[Catman]

Are you trying to make Elfman look bad on purpose? You call Young "repetitive" but then you post a clip of Elfman basically recycling the same damn music he used when Peter was chasing Ben's killer in SM1? You can't hear that?!? Jesus man lol.

You're worse than Visionary. To begin with, the Ben's killer chase and the train sequence are similar but not exactly the same. Secondly, when I said Young was repetitive I was referring to the fact that Young was just using the same notes over and over again. Its very uninspired if you think about it.

Yeah, it is.

Batman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEK0N3KUga4

Spider-Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c943L8C0AJM

 

[Visionary]

If this was a Jury, and you were on trial, you would have just hung yourself.

 

[Catman]

If this was a Jury, and you were on trial, you would have just hung yourself.

If you say so, buddy. Its not Elfman's fault that you're tone deaf and delusional. The Batman theme and the Spider-Man theme are different. To begin with, the Batman theme is a march. Kinda how the Indiana Jones theme is the Raiders March. Spider-Man is not a march. So, right there you got two different types of music. Secondly, the Batman theme is dark which the Spider-Man theme isn't. And, the composition isn't the same either.

 

[Visionary]

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. You don't like Young's music (I do), I don't like Elfman's (you do), yet we're getting both of their music in SM3, whether we like it or not. We're just gonna have to deal, now aren't we?

 

[Secret_Riddle]

I have to agree, not very a like at all.

 

[bingy13]

If this was a Jury, and you were on trial, you would have just hung yourself.

You're delusional...

 

[Catman]

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. You don't like Young's music (I do), I don't like Elfman's (you do), yet we're getting both of their music in SM3, whether we like it or not. We're just gonna have to deal, now aren't we?

I never said I hated Chris Young or anything. I just think he isn't as good as Elfman because he's repetitive, meaning, its the same notes over and over again. He tried with the Peter and Harry fight to get away from that but based on the Doc Ock demonstration and train sequence in Spidey 2 that seems to be his style.

 

[Catman]

oops! double post!

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

The Batman theme and the Spider-Man theme are different. To begin with, the Batman theme is a march. Kinda how the Indiana Jones theme is the Raiders March. Spider-Man is not a march. So, right there you got two different types of music. Secondly, the Batman theme is dark which the Spider-Man theme isn't. And, the composition isn't the same either.

my point exactly. if Elfman were repetive with scores then the director would say something about it when he's hearing the music. now Young is very good at doing music and all that and Elfman is VERY good at doing music as well. I believe that if a composer is repetive even elfman himself would notice that he is repeating songs. different scores from different films is the way it is for Elfman in my opion. young can do good action scene music and I heard that in the peter vs. harry areial fight but Elfman is just as good and actually even better than young. I'm sticking with my opinion about Elfman.

 

[Road Warrior]

I think this will settle the Batman and Spider-Man dispute:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-9rt78l8lg

 

[Visionary]

I never said I hated Chris Young or anything. I just think he isn't as good as Elfman because he's repetitive, meaning, its the same notes over and over again. He tried with the Peter and Harry fight to get away from that but based on the Doc Ock demonstration and train sequence in Spidey 2 that seems to be his style.

Unfortunately, with Elfman style, it's damn-near the entire score over and over again. And this has been going on for close to to 2 decades.

How embarassing is it not to have the Spider-Man score played at the Academy Awards, when you have two stars of the Spider-Man movies presenting, with the producer (Laura Ziskin) of the Spider-Man movies producing the damn show. Not even she thought highly of his score to allow it to be played, pathetic. Instead, they went with the 60s cartoon version (I'm shaking my head). If that doesn't say how much Elfman lacks I don't know what does.

 

[Catman]

Unfortunately, with Elfman style, it's damn-near the entire score over and over again. And this has been going on for close to to 2 decades.

I think this proves the Batman and Spider-Man score aren't the same:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-9rt78l8lg

How embarassing is it not to have the Spider-Man score played at the Academy Awards, when you have two stars of the Spider-Man movies presenting, with the producer (Laura Ziskin) of the Spider-Man movies producing the damn show. Not even she thought highly of his score to allow it to be played, pathetic. Instead, they went with the 60s cartoon version (I'm shaking my head). If that doesn't say how much Elfman lacks I don't know what does.

They went with the `60s theme cause a lot of people at the ceremony are old and are more familiar with that than Elfman's theme.

 

[Visionary]

The more videos you show just proves my point, if you have to try and prove that they're not the same--it means that people keeping telling you that they are...why, because they sound the same?

 

[Catman]

The more videos you show just proves my point, if you have to try and prove that they're not the same--it means that people keeping telling you that they are...why, because they sound the same?

You're the only one who says its the same. I've seen some people here post that many of his stuff are similar. But, you're the only one who says everything he does is circus music and sounds like Batman.