So...remember that Cap America vs Wolverine thread?

[Horrorfan]

You brought it up as an example of how Wolverine is better than Spider-Man. Don't argue the semantics.

I don't see why you're so defensive about being biased, either. You like Wolverine, so you're biased in his favor. Big deal.

My point was that someone with wolverines abilities of regeneration, unbreakable skeleton and razor sharp claws and keen senses, coupled with his mastery of ''all forms of hand to hand combat'' (according to the muhb) should be able to defeat spiderman despite the speed and strength advantages (and he has been show to neutralise the speed in the past).

Thats all. I mean the guys gone toe to toe with hulk and picked up a victory here and there (like PAD'S famous fight with grey hulk).

I wouldn't argue for him against say sentry, or galactus, or someone incredibly out of his league. But I think personally he should beat spiderman at least 8/10 times as minimum.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The problem is that you're only acknowledging one side of the story. People have kept pointing out that Spider-Man's done as well against Wolverine as Wolverine's done against Spider-Man, but you just ignore that, spin the encounters that are open to interpretation into Wolverine's favor, and then bring up random other stuff like X-23.

 

[Darthphere]

Huh? You can easily go and buy those comics it happens in?

Ko'ing spidey happened in a spiderman knights tpb....not sure which volume but it has wolverine and mj on the front with an angry spidey in the back ground, and spidey being scared of wolvie and not being able to put him away was in wolverine vs spiderman one shot.

And Darth has graduated to ''uber-*****''

Excellent.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I nominate Darthphere for Supreme B****.

 

[Darthphere]

Lets not get hasty now, Gambit still holds that title.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He's barely ever on anymore. He won't mind if you hold his title while he's away.

 

[Darthphere]

Fine, but I have to gain the title through electoral college.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

No way. The Hype's a true democracy. We go by popular vote.

 

[Alex Summers]

Why doesn't Gambit post anymore? Did Bendis drive him mad?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

No, I think he realized that he needed to spend less time here or he'd end up killing someone.

 

[gildea]

(and he has been show to neutralise the speed in the past).

And he has also been shown to be at a complete loss due to the speed in the past, you can't pick and choose your examples.

Thats all. I mean the guys gone toe to toe with hulk and picked up a victory here and there (like PAD'S famous fight with grey hulk).

He didn't win that fight. (I assume you're ignoring most of the actual fight here)

They were seperated. And he was losing when that happened.

 

[roach]

Fine, but I have to gain the title through electoral college.

I vote no faith in Chancelor Vallorum

 

[roach]

But the wolverine vs spiderman one shot was the ONLY true down and dirty fight.....and not wanting to kill someone who is willing to kill you, in a to the death fight, is pretty much a huge disadvantage. It would sort of be like getting into a showdown in the wild west, at noon, but having no intention of pulling the trigger when your opponent happily would.

Not to mention with wolverine's enchanced healing factor that allows him to regenerate from a skeleton, Im not sure anything spiderman could do to him could kill him, anyway.

so I guess the police lose all the time since they arent trying to kill anyone just arrest them but criminals are trying to kill them

 

[Horrorfan]

so I guess the police lose all the time since they arent trying to kill anyone just arrest them but criminals are trying to kill them

Ok who wins in a firefight....a pacifist who has never used guns in his life, or a master marksman skilled in every type of weapons training imaginable?Same principle.


Also, about the PAD hulk/wolvie fight, thats clearly a win for wolvie imo, since he had hulk down and out, even though hulk recovered....he clearly did the most damage that fight, and even PAD said it could have gone either way. If you dont count that, then wolverine has killed hulk in an alternate reality, and also stopped himself from killing hulk as death. point is, he has proven he can hang.

 

[roach]

Ok who wins in a firefight....a pacifist who has never used guns in his life, or a master marksman skilled in every type of weapons training imaginable?Same principle.

why is a pacifist in a firefight????
What does that have to do with Spider-man????
Is Spidey a pacifist...no...
arent all of his villains trying to kill him...yes
so that arguement is null and void

 

[Darthphere]

roach, leave now for your own good.

 

[roach]

roach, leave now for your own good.

why....?

 

[Darthphere]

Trust me.

 

[roach]

Trust me.

I cant...it is this insane thinking that has led to Wolverine being to regenerate from nothing...sorry but he must be taught that this is bad writing

 

[Darthphere]

He wont listen, therefore a waste of time.

 

[Horrorfan]

I cant...it is this insane thinking that has led to Wolverine being to regenerate from nothing...sorry but he must be taught that this is bad writing

Where are people complaing when Hulk heals from a hole being punched through his chest? Or characters coming back from the dead with no real explanation? Or when deadpool recovers from pretty much nothing?

Sorry, when you submit a story to marvel and they print it, THEN I will listen to you about what is and what isn't ''bad writing''

 

[gildea]

Also, about the PAD hulk/wolvie fight, thats clearly a win for wolvie imo, since he had hulk down and out, even though hulk recovered....he clearly did the most damage that fight, and even PAD said it could have gone either way.

Saying it could have gone either way IS NOT saying wolverine won. Wolverine had the hulk down but not out (when has a fight in marvel ever been decided by who falls down first? It's if someone stays down) this is obvious BECAUSE THE FIGHT CONTINUES.

Sorry but it's insane trying to claim that as a win for wolverine.

 

[Horrorfan]

Saying it could have gone either way IS NOT saying wolverine won. Wolverine had the hulk down but not out (when has a fight in marvel ever been decided by who falls down first? It's if someone stays down) this is obvious BECAUSE THE FIGHT CONTINUES.

Sorry but it's insane trying to claim that as a win for wolverine.

I say he won because he had hulk down and out with his guts splayed over the floor.....usually indictive of a winner, and clearly the most memorable thing about that fight.

Think of it as a boxing match....if boxer a knocks boxer b down in a round, even if boxer b gets in a few good jabs, who do you think the judges will give the round too?

Wolverine wins on points if anything and damage done.

 

[roach]

Where are people complaing when Hulk heals from a hole being punched through his chest? Or characters coming back from the dead with no real explanation? Or when deadpool recovers from pretty much nothing?

Sorry, when you submit a story to marvel and they print it, THEN I will listen to you about what is and what isn't ''bad writing''

1)It is a part of DP's character to heal from everything from his first appearance.
2) We do complain about people being rezzed with no explanation
3) I do not have to be a published writer to be able to say a story had poor writing in it. The only reason why you think it is awesome is because it's your favorite character.

 

[roach]

I say he won because he had hulk down and out with his guts splayed over the floor.....usually indictive of a winner, and clearly the most memorable thing about that fight.

Think of it as a boxing match....if boxer a knocks boxer b down in a round, even if boxer b gets in a few good jabs, who do you think the judges will give the round too?

Wolverine wins on points if anything and damage done.

but no one wins the boxing match if during the fight other people come in and disrupt it