"So You Think You Can Mod?"--A Hype Reality Show!

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

That is what my take was too.

Really?

great minds huh.

 

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Scenario #2

Posting pornography on public boards is condemned by the site's rules. However, Hypester B is now claiming that Hypester A is sending him heterosexually-themed porn via PM. Please note that no derrogatory comments are included, but it is a known fact that Hypester A hates gay individuals. Hypester B feels that the harrassment has elevated to a new level and blames you--the moderator--for only choosing to "monitor" the situation from Scenario 1.

How would you mediate the conflict?

KEY NOTE: According to the site's rules, PMs (private messages) are inadmissable for judgement and should not be posted publicly. However, Hypester B has forwarded you the PMs containing porn for proof.

Forward the PM to your most favoritest mod and tell them what's going on. If it keeps on happening, the mod should put the pervy Hypester on some type of probation and warn him. After that, if it keeps happening, and you see the PM's for yourself, ban hypester A.

 

[Showtime]

Really?

great minds huh.

Exactly Kitty, like great minds.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Exactly Kitty, like great minds.

I know you didn't just call me kitty.

t: t:

 

[Whirlysplat]

IP ban them both. No more issues.

jag

Unless they know deeleting cookies and shifting i.p. will allow them to create a new account and start over.

 

[squeekness]

Would putting someone on ignore block their PMs? Can't you advise the complaitant to simply ignore the supposed offender? If you aren't sure if the PM is legit or not, then this would seem to be thebest solution for the offended, no? Then as a mod, I would monitor what the offender is posting to check for harrassment, if it is really occurring or not.

 

[Abaddon]

SCENARIO #1:

For 400 Points:

"HYPESTER A has made it known that he despises gay people. He knows that HYPESTER B is gay because they've mentioned it publicly. HYPESTER A seems to appear in nearly every thread HYPESTER B participates in. He makes subtle knocks and insinuations about gay people, but he is civil about it and never uses gay jokes. He also never attacks HYPESTER B directly publicly or privately.

Question: The gay poster believes he's being singled out and harrassed and demands that you discipline HYPESTER A based on "assumptions." What do you do?

KEY POINT: Note that Hypester A is not "direct" with his trolling, nor has he attacked anyone. Technically he has not broken the rules. This is a gray area.

I'd step in and make a point of telling everyone in a thread where the situation arises and make a point of telling everyone that it's important to respect other people's beliefs and lifestyles. I also remind Poster B that he has the option to ignore the user. If it comes up again, either:
1) I'll straight up ask Poster A why he has such a problem with gay people.
0r 2) Make a thread regarding people's feelings about gays to lure the moth. Poster A won't resist making his comments or expressing his opinion, but it'll be part of an actual discussion and people will make points, including Poster B and other homosexuals. Poster A will be able to express his feelings, and Poster B will have the support of nonhomophobes and homosexuals alike, so it'll be highly unlikely Poster A will continue singling out Poster B, if that was his original intention.

Scenario #2

Posting pornography on public boards is condemned by the site's rules. However, Hypester B is now claiming that Hypester A is sending him heterosexually-themed porn via PM. Please note that no derrogatory comments are included, but it is a known fact that Hypester A hates gay individuals. Hypester B feels that the harrassment has elevated to a new level and blames you--the moderator--for only choosing to "monitor" the situation from Scenario 1.

How would you mediate the conflict?

KEY NOTE: According to the site's rules, PMs (private messages) are inadmissable for judgement and should not be posted publicly. However, Hypester B has forwarded you the PMs containing porn for proof.

There is no definitive proof. I tell Poster B that I will be keeping an eye on Poster A. If Poster B is actually being shady and he's determined enough, he'll try another way to incriminate Poster A. Or he'll just give up. If he does the former I catch him in his web of lies, and warn his conniving ass that if he starts some **** like that again, he's getting probation.

 

[Saved]

I'm conflicted here. I can't see sending porn to another user as a huge problem. Its offensive and annoying is all. If Hypester B doesn't like hypester A already, he'd be a fool to open a pm from him. Put him on the ignore list. It is there for a reason.

 

[squeekness]

Are we going to be told what the correct answer will be when this is done? Or is there no exact right/wrong answer?

 

[Saved]

We apparently get told at the end.

 

[nosebleed.]

I'm conflicted here. I can't see sending porn to another user as a huge problem. Its offensive and annoying is all. If Hypester B doesn't like hypester A already, he'd be a fool to open a pm from him. Put him on the ignore list. It is there for a reason.

Are you serious? You really can't see how offensive that can be?

Let me try and put it another way.

Say Tom is a white supremacist who loves to spread hate (through Stormfront...lol). James is a black guy who has said he doesn't want anything to do with racism or white supremacists.

Tom starts following James through the forums, posting in the same threads he posts in, slyly making coy remarks here and there but nothing overtly offensive. James complains about it but nothing happens.

Tom then sends James a few pics via PM of black men with nooses around their necks and then more of black men being hung by KKK members.

Is that not offensive to James therefore being a problem?

 

[Saved]

Are you serious? You really can't see how offensive that can be?

Let me try and put it another way.

Say Tom is a white supremacist who loves to spread hate (through Stormfront...lol). James is a black guy who has said he doesn't want anything to do with racism or white supremacists.

Tom starts following James through the forums, posting in the same threads he posts in, slyly making coy remarks here and there but nothing overtly offensive. James complains about it but nothing happens.

Tom then sends James a few pics via PM of black men with nooses around their necks and then more of black men being hung by KKK members.

Is that not offensive to James therefore being a problem?

I'm conflicted here. I can't see sending porn to another user as a huge problem. Its offensive and annoying is all. If Hypester B doesn't like hypester A already, he'd be a fool to open a pm from him. Put him on the ignore list. It is there for a reason.

And if this crap with hypester A has been going on this long, like I said, put A on ignore.

 

[Kelly]

Since the pm is inadmissable, he can't be banned or put on probation. However, I can say he is stalking him now I and have grounds to warn him. I warn him to leave Hypster B alone, and any further action against Hypster B is going to lead to a probationary ban. I give him only one warning for this. If he does anything else, he is put on probation.

EDIT - I tell Hypster B that "I am sorry but my hands are tied and I am doing the best can, and will issue a warning to Hypster B, and any further harassment will lead to him being put on probation."

 

[Kelly]

Are we going to be told what the correct answer will be when this is done? Or is there no exact right/wrong answer?

Is there a correct answer?

 

[Kelly]

Would putting someone on ignore block their PMs? Can't you advise the complaitant to simply ignore the supposed offender? If you aren't sure if the PM is legit or not, then this would seem to be thebest solution for the offended, no? Then as a mod, I would monitor what the offender is posting to check for harrassment, if it is really occurring or not.

The other person is on ignore as long as no one quotes the person......so he's not totally on ignore.

 

[Deep Thinkin'!]

Scenario #2

Posting pornography on public boards is condemned by the site's rules. However, Hypester B is now claiming that Hypester A is sending him heterosexually-themed porn via PM. Please note that no derrogatory comments are included, but it is a known fact that Hypester A hates gay individuals. Hypester B feels that the harrassment has elevated to a new level and blames you--the moderator--for only choosing to "monitor" the situation from Scenario 1.

How would you mediate the conflict?

KEY NOTE: According to the site's rules, PMs (private messages) are inadmissable for judgement and should not be posted publicly. However, Hypester B has forwarded you the PMs containing porn for proof.

Ban Hypester A with the explanation as to why he was banned.

 

[Kelly]

But in regards to the "scenario 2" given you have to take it as a seperate issue from "scenario 1" and could only work from the information given.

But if the sending of porn is simply a form of harrassment, it is then connected to the first scenario.....it depends on the motive of the one harrassing....and therein is usually the problem........what is their true motive?

 

[Super Kal]

doesn't the "written permission" rule also come into effect with scenario #2?

 

[Kelly]

We need to know what a mod can or cannot do.

We can't go into PM's.....

 

[Super Kal]

We can't go into PM's.....

even with the written permission?...
I'm gonna have to change my answer...

in this case, I'd probably do what Spider-Fan said
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=12223070&postcount=129

 

[squeekness]

The other person is on ignore as long as no one quotes the person......so he's not totally on ignore.

I meant would the ignore block the Pms? If so, then there should be no more trouble that way. Then the mod can monitor the offender's public posts.

I was leaning towards warning the offender, but the fact that PMs can be faked throws a wrench into that idea. For me porn is bannable whether it's public or not, if there was some way to prove the PM was legit, I would probationary ban the offender.

 

[Fran]

Man, I'd play, but I don't know where to start.

 

[Kelly]

even with the written permission?...
I'm gonna have to change my answer...

in this case, I'd probably do what Spider-Fan said
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=12223070&postcount=129

Even in that case, after written permission.....both parties could edit the PM's before we read them.....wouldn't do much good......PM's are tricky business......

 

[Fran]

Can we have a situation regarding my avatar removal? I think it's an interesting question.

 

[Super Kal]

Even in that case, after written permission.....both parties could edit the PM's before we read them.....wouldn't do much good......PM's are tricky business......

I'll keep that in mind next time.