Far From Home Spider-Man: Far From Home ---- Official Box Office Prediction Thread

[spider-neil]

Again, Marvel selling the rights to Spider-Man with no expiration date was idiocy. Until this joint venture, all Sony had to do was make a Spider-Man movie every FIVE YEARS and they would hold the rights till the end of time. Who negotiated such a crap deal?

 

[The Duh]

Again, Marvel selling the rights to Spider-Man with no expiration date was idiocy. Until this joint venture, all Sony had to do was make a Spider-Man movie every FIVE YEARS and they would hold the rights till the end of time. Who negotiated such a crap deal?

The same person who thought selling all of Marvel's catalog as film rights to Sony for only $25 million was a good idea.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Again, Marvel selling the rights to Spider-Man with no expiration date was idiocy. Until this joint venture, all Sony had to do was make a Spider-Man movie every FIVE YEARS and they would hold the rights till the end of time. Who negotiated such a crap deal?

Avi Arad back when Marvel was going bankrupt. Let us not forget, when this deal was made, the company was going under. They were not the BO juggernaut owned by the mouse they are now. Comic Book Films were not what they are now. It's really hard for me to be too hard on them during that period for these types of deals. Hindsight is always 20/20.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

Yeah, FFH making $1 billion is basically a lock. So we at least can count on 1 more MCU Spider-Man film. But this is an interesting read and does shed light on where we are in the process. This does however mean we will again be debating Spidey's long term future in a few years.

Actually, I think it is a good stipulation. The entire point of this deal from Sony's PoV was to raise the value of the Spider-Man IP. TASM series did serious damage to the property's value and BO earning potential. Sony basically wants to be sure people are responding to MCU Spider-Man, and in the world of business, that is communicated through $$$$$. So, this is only smart business by Sony. Plus, it gives Disney incentive to make the movies GOOD. Not to sabotage the property so it is worthless, and then bought back by Disney at clearance.

Spider-Fan knows what's up.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Actual:

 

[Schlosser85]

So how assured is a billion right now?

 

[spider-neil]

Avi Arad back when Marvel was going bankrupt. Let us not forget, when this deal was made, the company was going under. They were not the BO juggernaut owned by the mouse they are now. Comic Book Films were not what they are now. It's really hard for me to be too hard on them during that period for these types of deals. Hindsight is always 20/20.

I get that but put a cap on it, for Pete's sake. Even if that cap is decades down the line.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I get that but put a cap on it, for Pete's sake. Even if that cap is decades down the line.

People do desperate things when they have few choices. Marvel needed money then immediately and those were the terms. They didn't really have options. Other than not sell Spider-Man and possibly go out of business.

 

[JKKS085]

Actually, I think it is a good stipulation. The entire point of this deal from Sony's PoV was to raise the value of the Spider-Man IP. TASM series did serious damage to the property's value and BO earning potential. Sony basically wants to be sure people are responding to MCU Spider-Man, and in the world of business, that is communicated through $$$$$. So, this is only smart business by Sony. Plus, it gives Disney incentive to make the movies GOOD. Not to sabotage the property so it is worthless, and then bought back by Disney at clearance.

Or you can see it at Marvel/Disney making themselves basically indispensable. Again the character is now so weaved into the MCU that there is no going back, at least in the short or medium term. The financial prospects of a live action Spider-Man film set outside of the MCU will make TASM2’s box office look like a home run.

They stopped short of pulling a Fox and running the property into the ground. I don’t think they’re stupid enough to reverse that decision. And I would be so bold as to say that if they tried, they would face litigation on a level that would prevent them from using the current version of the character and block the release of any new Spider-Man film for a long time. Disney’s lawyers would bury them.

 

[Fallen]

I think they'd be bold/stupid enough to do it, they still have Holland on contract for one more film. But yeah, this movie is making a billion. I have to laugh at Sony for making such a stipulation, it's not like they themselves have ever managed to hit this milestone.

Ikr?

Highest-grossing film in Sony's history and the first and only to cross the $1B mark: Skyfall (a MGM/Sony movie). The second one will probably be Far From Home (a Marvel Studios/Sony movie) .

The fact that Sony think Spider-Man will survive outside the MCU... They almost destroyed the IP and, of course, they will do it again, it's Sony!

 

[ironwez20]

Sigh please don’t take the character back to Sony. We finally got good Spider-Man movies. All they had to do was sit back and collect a paycheck but now they wanna create there own stupid universe and threaten to take him out if he doesn’t reach a billion. Seriously Tom Holland is probably the most well received spidey since Tobey. It’d be stupid to just replace him or take him out the mcu

 

[spiderman2]

About to see the movie a second time in a little over a hour. After that I will wait for it on video. About a billion and Sony it is silly has there spiderman movies were going down and down when it comes to the box office and most likely a amazing spiderman 3 would have decreased again and these type of movies cost a lot of money to make and so you need the movie to make a solid amount before you make profit. It cost money to make money and because these are not cheap movies made on like a 20 million budget or something a small box office is not going to equal a profit.

 

[spiderman2]

Just got back from seeing the movie a second time like 30 minutes ago, and I was surprised how many people were there on a Tuesday night has I live in a smaller town, and in fact I would say there was like 15% more people or something than there was when I saw it on its first day last Tuesday.

 

[Iceman]

Ikr?

Highest-grossing film in Sony's history and the first and only to cross the $1B mark: Skyfall (a MGM/Sony movie). The second one will probably be Far From Home (a Marvel Studios/Sony movie) .

The fact that Sony think Spider-Man will survive outside the MCU... They almost destroyed the IP and, of course, they will do it again, it's Sony!

If it does happen again I don’t think Marvel should work with Sony again. Sony don’t seem to realise that a solo character IP is only worth so much. You can’t sustain a universe over decades with just one main hero character, and you also can’t turn every villain into an anti-hero just because it worked with Venom. Marvel and DC have tonnes of hero characters and could keep introducing new ones for the rest of the century and what Sony has access to doesn’t compare. Letting Spidey interact with other heroes is one way of keeping things fresh rather than getting his origin again once every few films.

 

[spider-neil]

Saying that Sony can't make a billion dollar Spider-Man movie is debatable. Venom made over 800m with no Spider-Man. It's not far fetched to think a Spider-Man Venom matchup would generate a billion.

 

[spiderman2]

Sony that Sony can't make a billion dollar Spider-Man movie is debatable. Venom made over 800m with no Spider-Man. It's not far fetched to think a Spider-Man Venom matchup would generate a billion.

Sony doing a spiderman movie and making a billion is possible but the problem is that spiderman 3, amazing spiderman 1 and 2 all did a lot of damaged and hurt peoples trust and I think even far from home is still suffering slightly because of those movies and I have no idea how crappy venom made that much. But yes its possible spiderman 3 made like 890 and that was basically all of hype had the movie been good it may have made a billion has its word of month and legs were not good.

 

[spider-neil]

Sony doing a spiderman movie and making a billion is possible but the problem is that spiderman 3, amazing spiderman 1 and 2 all did a lot of damaged and hurt peoples trust and I think even far from home is still suffering slightly because of those movies and I have no idea how crappy venom made that much. But yes its possible spiderman 3 made like 890 and that was basically all of hype had the movie been good it may have made a billion has its word of month and legs were not good.

Venom was liked. Look at the RT audience score. Talking about the non comic book reading general audience, my Mrs loved it.

 

[spiderman2]

Venom was liked. Look at the RT audience score. Talking about the non comic book reading general audience, my Mrs loved it.

Yeah I guess they did I thought it was crap and messed up the character and I dont even read comics I known my spiderman stuff from the movies, cartoons and video games.

 

[8ulk87]

Even if the deal allows them to, they won’t. Any live action Spider-Man movie set outside of the MCU would technically be DOA in this day and age.

That being said, FFH IS making a billion so this is a moot point.

Well its still possible to miss the mark sligthly. $975-999 mil is not out of the question yet (although unlikely).

I think they'd be bold/stupid enough to do it, they still have Holland on contract for one more film. But yeah, this movie is making a billion. I have to laugh at Sony for making such a stipulation, it's not like they themselves have ever managed to hit this milestone.

Sony needs to go bankrupt. Cinema will be a better place.

Yeah, FFH making $1 billion is basically a lock. So we at least can count on 1 more MCU Spider-Man film. But this is an interesting read and does shed light on where we are in the process. This does however mean we will again be debating Spidey's long term future in a few years.

Not a 100% lock yet. More like 95%.

*gulp*

Avi Arad back when Marvel was going bankrupt. Let us not forget, when this deal was made, the company was going under. They were not the BO juggernaut owned by the mouse they are now. Comic Book Films were not what they are now. It's really hard for me to be too hard on them during that period for these types of deals. Hindsight is always 20/20.

Exactly.

So how assured is a billion right now?

95% chance.

 

[shinlyle]

Venom was liked. Look at the RT audience score. Talking about the non comic book reading general audience, my Mrs loved it.

I liked it, too, honestly. It wasn't well done, but it was fun, which is something Sony Spidey films haven't been since SM3. Was Spidey 3 a train wreck? Yeah...but at least parts of it didn't feel like WORK. ASM1 and 2 had some moments, but they felt soulless. Hardy brought a LOT of heart and soul into the characters of Eddie and Venom, and it showed.

As for your comment about a Spidey/Venom team-up film, the ONLY way it doesn't hit a billion is if they just spew all over the film and make it a BvS style abomination. I mean, a Batman/Superman movie didn't cross a billion....neither did a Justice League movie...but before we give the movie going public too much credit for not paying to see bad movies, remember the Transformers saga crossed a billions twice.

 

[spider-neil]

Sony needs to go bankrupt. Cinema will be a better place.

Sony made SM2 and Into the Spider-Verse. By far my favorite Spider-Man movies.
ItS-V is my favorite animated movie of all time and I've seen The Incredibles.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Tuesday estimate. Nice bump.

Spider-Man: Far From Home Sony Pictures $15,175,000 +40% 4,634 $3,275 $211,115,027

 

[Themanofbat]

I saw Venom last month... fell asleep during the final arc...

 

[spiderman2]

Tuesday estimate. Nice bump.

Spider-Man: Far From Home Sony Pictures $15,175,000 +40% 4,634 $3,275 $211,115,027

That is a nice bump around 100000 more than hc did on its first tuesday and hc hadnt came out on a holiday and a tuesday so far from home making a little bit more on day 8 compared to hc day 5.

 

[Iceman]

Tuesday estimate. Nice bump.

Spider-Man: Far From Home Sony Pictures $15,175,000 +40% 4,634 $3,275 $211,115,027

Very nice.

Already well clear of $200m. $300m shouldn’t be too far away either.