Far From Home Spider-Man Sequel General Discussion and Speculation

[Aximili86]

Ack. I can't be the only one that hates the globe-trotting Spidey thing, right?

It sort of works as a one-off in concept in Civil War (even though Tony's totally irresponsible in seeking out Pete for his little strike group), but doing it in a sequel kind of negates the whole arc of Homecoming, no?

All the becoming-his-own-man, turning-down-the-Tony-tech stuff, embracing the "friendly neighborhood Spider-Man" schtick.

It's one thing for him going off to D.C. for a couple of days on a school trip, but just seems like they're really going to be playing down the street-level local hero stuff with the MCU version. It's not a dealbreaker or anything, but I just kinda have zero interest in seeing Peter flip around London or Paris or Prague or whateverthehell, taking on threats larger than a local NYC presence.

Especially in the context of a larger shared universe, it's just one of the things that separates the guy from all the others. I can get past the Avengers links (always hated that concept personally, but it makes total sense they'd do it for the movies), but really just wish at least his solo movies would stick around home, play up that local-crimefighting-sensation thing rather than getting caught up in international and/or alien shenanigans.

Like someone else said, if it's a single scene like with Bats in Hong Kong in TDK, fine, that'd work in a context of Kraven or Silver Sable or someone similar. Just sounds from Feige's comments like it's going to be a little more significant than that.

*Shrugs*

 

[Toomes' Phone]

Ack. I can't be the only one that hates the globe-trotting Spidey thing, right?

It sort of works as a one-off in concept in Civil War (even though Tony's totally irresponsible in seeking out Pete for his little strike group), but doing it in a sequel kind of negates the whole arc of Homecoming, no?

All the becoming-his-own-man, turning-down-the-Tony-tech stuff, embracing the "friendly neighborhood Spider-Man" schtick.

It's one thing for him going off to D.C. for a couple of days on a school trip, but just seems like they're really going to be playing down the street-level local hero stuff with the MCU version. It's not a dealbreaker or anything, but I just kinda have zero interest in seeing Peter flip around London or Paris or Prague or whateverthehell, taking on threats larger than a local NYC presence.

Especially in the context of a larger shared universe, it's just one of the things that separates the guy from all the others. I can get past the Avengers links (always hated that concept personally, but it makes total sense they'd do it for the movies), but really just wish at least his solo movies would stick around home, play up that local-crimefighting-sensation thing rather than getting caught up in international and/or alien shenanigans.

Like someone else said, if it's a single scene like with Bats in Hong Kong in TDK, fine, that'd work in a context of Kraven or Silver Sable or someone similar. Just sounds from Feige's comments like it's going to be a little more significant than that.

*Shrugs*

I understand your complaint, however, I for one love how they seem to be straying further and further away from the established Spidey movie formula. We've seen him swinging in the Manhattan skyline for six movies now, what's wrong with him swinging in the London skyline? This is stuff we haven't seen in a solo Spidey movie before, and I like that.

 

[Aximili86]

Well, yeah, but what business does Pete have doing that? I guess we don't know if he's signed the Accords or not as of Infinity War (probably not, he's not 18 yet right?), but you'd sort of figure a powered person on foreign soil doin' his vigilante thing would open a familiar can of worms anyway.

I dunno, guess I'm just kind of oldschool on this, it's more of a "what feels right" thing to me more than anything. And yeah, no problem with Pete interacting with other heroes (I don't even mind the Tony in Homecoming stuff, it's a fun new twist/approach - I just wish it'd stay to that, like Tony and his tech are separated from Peter by now...obviously they're not going that way though, given Infinity War).

Just wish it were more like...Cap comes to check up on the kid in NYC for a scene or two. Or Tony providing a little advice on some web thing that Peter's cooking up himself. Or, yeah, obviously Daredevil and Luke and Jessica and Danny and Punisher are never showing up in the movies, but I just wish they were the types of people Pete was interacting with, on home soil. Other very local, very "smalltime in the scheme of things" people - if you want to do a team-up to figure out an approach to some villain in Manhattan or Brooklyn or whatever, cool.

Just seems like if there's something going down in London, why is that any of Peter's goddamn business? Y'know? Either it's a big-deal thing and the Avengers are on it, or it's a smaller thing and some local British person should be able to cover it.

Seems especially jarring to me given it's the very-young highschool iteration of the guy too, it'd be easier to swallow if this were happening with an established adult Pete.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

You should wait to find out why he’s there first.

 

[Aximili86]

Fair, yeah. I dunno, just can't foresee any reasoning whereby it's not going to bug me though. The CW stuff did, even though it made perfect sense why they'd do it having just got the character back.

Sure I'm in the minority on this though. Just always loved how Pete sort of embodies the spirit of NYC maybe even moreso than everyone else that's based there, he's kind of the "people's hero" or whatever, but localized. You sort of dilute some of that "friendly neighborhood" stuff if every other year he's breaking up some event in London or Paris or whatever.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Ack. I can't be the only one that hates the globe-trotting Spidey thing, right?

I don't hate it, but it is a bit disappointing because, to me, the two heroes that imbody New York the most are Daredevil and Spider-Man. The first movie did a good job of establishing his Queens neighborhood as a character and I would have loved the sequel show him journeying to Manhattan.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Ack. I can't be the only one that hates the globe-trotting Spidey thing, right?

It sort of works as a one-off in concept in Civil War (even though Tony's totally irresponsible in seeking out Pete for his little strike group), but doing it in a sequel kind of negates the whole arc of Homecoming, no?

All the becoming-his-own-man, turning-down-the-Tony-tech stuff, embracing the "friendly neighborhood Spider-Man" schtick

*Shrugs*

You're not the only one. Too much globe trotting doesn't make sense this early in his career. He's one of the most New York superheroes. He should still be operating locally. One of the problems I have with the new interpretation is trying so hard to be different from previous films. You're Marvel! We want to see Marvel's version of the comics! Stop worrying about what was already done.

 

[Web-Head]

You're not the only one. Too much globe trotting doesn't make sense this early in his career. He's one of the most New York superheroes. He should still be operating locally. One of the problems I have with the new interpretation is trying so hard to be different from previous films. You're Marvel! We want to see Marvel's version of the comics! Stop worrying about what was already done.

Agreed. He goes to DC for an academic decathlon then probably to London for some school trip?

I liked that Toomes found out he was Spider-Man due to the fact that he was in DC then back in NY.

Won't the classmates put two and two together?

 

[Tg11]

I know right how could they not put 2 and 2 together...anyone with a brain could figure that out

 

[Loki882]

Again that applies even if he's just in NYC. I mean they even showed that last time when Vulture DID put two and two together in the end.

 

[Ninjablade]

A school trip could possibly be interesting if done well, though I worry that it’ll seem dumb that no one puts together his identity.

I’ve always liked the idea of him being captured and then taken to a differnt country, or even accidentally following a villain and getting stuck having to leave. That could be fun for maybe a second act of a film. Would also really lean into Peter having to use his intelligence to figure out how to stop the bad guy and also get home. Would also make a little bit more use of Karen as the only person he can talk to for however long he’s gone.

 

[Aximili86]

Speaking of which, any confirmation on Karen coming back for Infinity War? Would make sense, like Tony's just transferred/included the tech in the lame Iron Spider suit, but I don't think we've had any confirmation. Some vague allusion to it from someone at those first-half-hour screenings, but it sounded like maybe he might have been getting confused with Friday in Tony's suit.

At some point I do hope Peter "de-tech"s, but I didn't mind it in Homecoming, makes for some cool banter and a nice quasi-reference to the internal speech/thought bubbles from the books. Plus doesn't hurt she's played by Connelly.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

Fair, yeah. I dunno, just can't foresee any reasoning whereby it's not going to bug me though. The CW stuff did, even though it made perfect sense why they'd do it having just got the character back.

Sure I'm in the minority on this though. Just always loved how Pete sort of embodies the spirit of NYC maybe even moreso than everyone else that's based there, he's kind of the "people's hero" or whatever, but localized. You sort of dilute some of that "friendly neighborhood" stuff if every other year he's breaking up some event in London or Paris or whatever.

No, I hear you. Of course, I love Spidey being in NY, too. Think we all do. It’s an ambitious idea to put him outside of that for a whole movie and I sort of just think of it as a one-shot issue. I mean, it is one movie. And you never know, it could be really fun.

Agreed. He goes to DC for an academic decathlon then probably to London for some school trip?

I liked that Toomes found out he was Spider-Man due to the fact that he was in DC then back in NY.

Won't the classmates put two and two together?

They’ll probably find a way to address it and “fix” the issue.

 

[Tg11]

Kraven as villain

 

[Venom 1988]

So I gave in and read some Infinity War spoilers (WARNING)

Spoiler

I know Homecoming 2 is supposed to be after Avengers 4 but I have to wonder how Sony plans on marketing this movie, since Spidey has ceased to exist.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Remember guys, not the Avengers forum, so when dealing with spoiler, bag and tag!!!

Not that anyone broke that in here. Preemptive warning, LOL!

 

[Venom 1988]

Yeah I was trying to be extra careful with my post for anyone that hasn't read the spoilers.

 

[NHawk19]

So I gave in and read some Infinity War spoilers (WARNING)

Spoiler

I know Homecoming 2 is supposed to be after Avengers 4 but I have to wonder how Sony plans on marketing this movie, since Spidey has ceased to exist.

Yup that would be a problem.

There's a reason the two movies between the IFWs start before the IFW movie.

 

[ironwez20]

What movies?

 

[Loki882]

Ant Man & The Wasp and Captain Marvel. The former apparently takes places shortly after CW and the latter in the 1990's.

 

[Toomes' Phone]

So if the main villain ends up being someone like Chameleon, I think there's lots of ways to make him more "interesting". Make him a physical threat to Spidey for one thing (I think he takes the same potions Kraven does in the comics), give him a cool, menacing design and performance. Everyone but me was worried about the same thing regarding Vulture, but Marvel and Sony ended up with the best onscreen Spidey villain in 13 years. Plus I think Chameleon fits the international scale of this film best.

 

[Frodo]

I'm excited about the globe trotting aspect, especially since its tied to the villain.

He's been in NYC more than enough in the previous films imo. Having a film in which Peter is exposed to a new environment , which may end up serving as a disadvantage , could be very interesting.

This isn't the Raimi and Webb versions of Peter who were pretty much bound to staying in New York City for a variety of reasons.

Like it or not, this version is part of a larger cinematic universe, and his canvas has never been limited to just Queens starting from CACW.

If I can except him helping everyone else fight Thanos and the end of the world, I can except him spending the summer in Europe as opposed to Manhattan.

 

[Toomes' Phone]

I'm excited about the globe trotting aspect, especially since its tied to the villain.

He's been in NYC more than enough in the previous films imo. Having a film in which Peter is exposed to a new environment , which may end up serving as a disadvantage , could be very interesting.

This isn't the Raimi and Webb versions of Peter who were pretty much bound to staying in New York City for a variety of reasons.

Like it or not, this version is part of a larger cinematic universe, and his canvas has never been limited to just Queens starting from CACW.

If I can except him helping everyone else fight Thanos and the end of the world, I can except him spending the summer in Europe as opposed to Manhattan.

I agree entirely. There is absolutely no need for him to stay in NYC all the time.

 

[Comic Book Guy]

Why not Chameleon and Kraven as villains since they're brothers?

 

[Marvel united]

I'm mixed on the idea of a world tour film. On one hand, I understand why they want to do something different but on the other hand, I'm an old-school guy as well. New York City is the heart of the character in the same way Gotham is to Batman. NYC is almost a character in itself in the Spidey franchise. That's why his iconic nickname is "Friendly "Neighbourhood" Spider-Man.

But I'm willing to give it a chance and see the context of their decision