Spider-Man: Web of Shadows

[Rando]

So far I've heard some REALLY good things from people who received leaked copies.

I really think this game is going to be a hit. of course your going to have fans that will STILL say SM2 is the best. but oh well. I know the villains involved aren't all fan favorites and were already used in past games for the most part, but as like as they are unique you've got no real complaints from me.

I'm just glad Electro made it in.

i know i will have a blast playing this. its about 36 hours away.

 

[Styleshift]

Gladiator80 from the gamespot forum says:

If you go to the bottom of the quotes he posts pics of gameplay.

Oct 19, 2008 9:10 am PT
"Ok, in that case I must apologise ^_^ But it still seems kind of weird. I thought you would start with regular thugs, to get a bit familiar with the combat and controls... so you start of fighting symbiotes right away?"

No problem. The beginning segment which shows the city under invasion only really lasts for like 10 - 15 minutes of gameplay, then [BLACKOUT]Mary Jane[/BLACKOUT] shows up with [BLACKOUT]Luke Cage[/BLACKOUT] and [BLACKOUT]blames Peter for something[/BLACKOUT] (don't wanna spoil), then you fight Venom and the game goes back to an earlier scene, where the invasion still hasn't happened, anyways an Ambulance is taking Mary Jane to the Hospital and you have to follow the Ambulance. When it gets there, these thugs pull up infront of the hospital and have a shoot out which you have to stop. After that you help out Luke Cage with some thugs and he starts giving you missions to clean up the streets which are overun by thugs.......did a few missions and that's pretty much as far as I played.

"Oh, and another question: are there any graphical issues, like slowdown or screen-tearing?"

From what I've seen so far no graphical issues, the game looks crisp. I have no idea what screen tearing is and as far as slow down, I have not seen anything, the game runs smoothly.


"Is it worth buying?"

Hell Yes.

"Oh and is the city big?"

Not sure compared to GTA 4, but it's pretty huge.

"Could you take some more gameplay pics? Perhaps one of Spidey looking out over the city."

Sorry about the quality, but I'm taking these with my phone.

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Link to his thread is:
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/...s.php?topic_id=m-1-46050531&pid=945885&page=0

 

[DACMAN]

AWESOME! WEB YOYO IS BACK! THANKS FOR THE PICS!

 

[Shonkie]

So far I've heard some REALLY good things from people who received leaked copies.

@ Shonkie, well I guess its in character for her. I recall there was a time she beat up the chameleon with a baseball bat. plus she has had formal training from Cap. America.....so yea.

indeed, mary jane is quite the firecracker

emphasis on the fire

ooooh im nasty

 

[AME]

I know it's just a small little thingy thingy, but... I hope the wheels on cars at least spin this time. And since when where black people the only ones with cars?
I hope they realized how strange that looked in sm3 and did something about it this time around

 

[Spidey17]

which Spider-man games are you a fan of? did you play SM3?




I'm getting WOS for the PS3. I used to have a 360 but I sold it because of the red light scare.

Technically fable is not an RPG. you really don't realize it when you play it. It just has certain RPG elements like leveling up your characters powers. your character ages from young boy to middle aged (grey hair) throughout the course of the game. its a great experiance.

your appearance depends on your moral allignment. you can make bad choices and good choices. like when you go into peoples houses (like any other old school rpg) and take something out, thats considered stealing. and you can kill almost ANY NPC in the game.

Except the mother ****ing "Fight Club" gang leader. That loser followed me til I either started a mission or teleported. Killed everyone else because they wouldn't let me fight.

 

[UltimateComix]

Here's to hoping for some reviews today!

Styleshift, I read the developer Q & A you posted on your blog... how in the world had I not seen that before?! I was very disappointed that the day/night cycle is only tied to specific story events, that there are no weather effects, and worst of all NO UNLOCKABLE COSTUMES... but everything else sounded amazing.

If there aren't any unlockable costumes though, I'm not sure what else there would be to unlock. They kept saying in the interview "the replay value comes from playing through single-player campaign and making different choices". That will probably end up being the biggest disappointment for me.

But yeah, other than those things, the other info was all exciting and awesome. Can't wait for Wednesday.

 

[Nathan]

AWESOME! WEB YOYO IS BACK! THANKS FOR THE PICS!

With the web yoyo finally back, how can this game possibly fail?

 

[Styleshift]

indeed, mary jane is quite the firecracker

emphasis on the fire

ooooh im nasty

I hear shes actually hot this time around....instead of, ya know deformed lookin....

I know it's just a small little thingy thingy, but... I hope the wheels on cars at least spin this time. And since when where black people the only ones with cars?
I hope they realized how strange that looked in sm3 and did something about it this time around

*probably ...all I know is the city is MUCH more detailed than in SM3. you can actually break and throw stuff now. lol. (yes even store, building fronts)

*That didnt bother me as much as citizen's not reacting. to ANYTHING you do. but i've heard thats changed and its gone back to the way it was in SM2. citizens react to spidey's presence. if you've been good they'll cheer you on. if you've been bad they'll run and scream.

Except the mother ****ing "Fight Club" gang leader. That loser followed me til I either started a mission or teleported. Killed everyone else because they wouldn't let me fight.

hahaha I hated that guy!

Here's to hoping for some reviews today!

Styleshift, I read the developer Q & A you posted on your blog... how in the world had I not seen that before?! I was very disappointed that the day/night cycle is only tied to specific story events, that there are no weather effects, and worst of all NO UNLOCKABLE COSTUMES... but everything else sounded amazing.

If there aren't any unlockable costumes though, I'm not sure what else there would be to unlock. They kept saying in the interview "the replay value comes from playing through single-player campaign and making different choices". That will probably end up being the biggest disappointment for me.

But yeah, other than those things, the other info was all exciting and awesome. Can't wait for Wednesday.

hmmm let me re-word some of these for you. ALOT of their answers are ambigous, which makes them look really suspicious. i recall one guy asking if elevated trains made it in. the dev told him "yes, elevated train "structures" are in". and i'm like yea....but what about the train?

1. day/night cycles will change during regular freeroam gameplay.(not realistically...) they havent gotten rid of it. its almost like sm3 except there are now more times of day, like dawn. but they will also automatically change when you select certain missions. USM was the only game with no time cycles. in short, when you start a mission at day,if the story calls for that scene to be at night. it will than turn to night. this goes as far back as sm2.

• i remember a dev saying that we FINALLY get to replay the games story without starting a new save. and we get to keep our level ups. there will be random missons and you are almost NEVER forced to play the story mode. so thats a pretty good deal.

 

[Brainiac 8]

My only major gripe is this is game number five in their Spider-Man series, and they still haven't figured out that fans of the character would like some unlockable alternate costumes to run around in.

Make us work for them, but give us some of the classic different costumes to wear. Spider-Man: The Movie was the closest to doing this with some of the alternates and GG to play.

 

[Nathan]

My only major gripe is this is game number five in their Spider-Man series, and they still haven't figured out that fans of the character would like some unlockable alternate costumes to run around in.

What? Oh, come on. This must be a bloody joke. We finally get a game that is based on the 616 Spidey and still no unlockable costumes? Ok, at this point they must be doing it on purpose.

 

[Styleshift]

What? Oh, come on. This must be a bloody joke. We finally get a game that is based on the 616 Spidey and still no unlockable costumes? Ok, at this point they must be doing it on purpose.

My only major gripe is this is game number five in their Spider-Man series, and they still haven't figured out that fans of the character would like some unlockable alternate costumes to run around in.

Make us work for them, but give us some of the classic different costumes to wear. Spider-Man: The Movie was the closest to doing this with some of the alternates and GG to play.

Member: benreiley
Question: Are there going to be alternate costumes in the game besides the Symbiotes?
Answer: Posted by Burke from Shaba Games
All of our efforts went into perfecting the Black and Red suits. I hope, after learning all the secrets of both of those, it will feel like enough.
Member: darkspidey13
Question: The lack of costumes/skins seems like a missed opportunity. Not because I feel that I need an additional set of abilities, but just because it's something extra that's cool to look at / unlock, and at the same time be a throwback to classic story arcs. Why no extra costumes?
Answer: Posted by Burke from Shaba Games
Seriously, you won't feel cheated by the suits. I've never worked on a game with this many cool moves. We certainly didn't overlook adding more suits, but in game development you have to make choices on what to focus on or you just end up with a mess. The artists have done an awesome job with Spidey's suits so you should feel like you got the real deal.

two suits that have COMPLETELY different gameplay mechanics....or more skins that add nothing to gameplay? you guys decide. ...

yes I admit I was disappointed as well. USM solved that little problem I had though. Johnny Storm race + tokens = boring freeroam gameplay when your suit does nothing special.

besides I think what most people miss about the unlockable costumes are the specific cheats that came with them from the psx days.

 

[Nathan]

two suits that have COMPLETELY different gameplay mechanics....or more skins that add nothing to gameplay? you guys decide. ...

We could've had both. Instead of the classic red/blue, you would be able to play in a varity of different outfits, Spider-Man 2099, Scarlet Spider, Unlimited, etc., while the black suit remains the same.

 

[Styleshift]

We could've had both. Instead of the classic red/blue, you would be able to play in a varity of different outfits, Spider-Man 2099, Scarlet Spider, Unlimited, etc., while the black suit remains the same.

I believe the game wouldn't have come out as polished if they took the time to develop skins. that's an acceptable excuse, these things take time.

unfortunately they DO NOT have an acceptable excuse for adding more skins through downloadable content.

 

[Nathan]

I believe the game wouldn't have come out as polished if they took the time to develop skins. that's an acceptable excuse, these things take time.

No, it's not. We're not asking for different characters, like a Green Goblin model or something that has to be build from the ground up. They've already got the basic character model of Spider-Man, now all we're asking for are different textures for it. It's not going to take months of development time.

 

[Brainiac 8]

No, it's not. We're not asking for different characters, like a Green Goblin model or something that has to be build from the ground up. They've already got the basic character model of Spider-Man, now all we're asking for are different textures for it. It's not going to take months of development time.

Exactly...how hard is this for them.

It takes not much time at all to change the textures into a new costume. Out of all the things they do to make this game, creating new costumes should be easy. They know the fans want them, but they seem to ignore that fanbase that keeps their pockets lined.

The PS1 Spidey games showed that it is doable while still making a quality game.

 

[Styleshift]

No, it's not. We're not asking for different characters, like a Green Goblin model or something that has to be build from the ground up. They've already got the basic character model of Spider-Man, now all we're asking for are different textures for it. It's not going to take months of development time.

Exactly...how hard is this for them.

It takes not much time at all to change the textures into a new costume. Out of all the things they do to make this game, creating new costumes should be easy. They know the fans want them, but they seem to ignore that fanbase that keeps their pockets lined.

The PS1 Spidey games showed that it is doable while still making a quality game.

Well, I guess I could always pull the "these guys have degrees and therefore know what they are talking about card."

but I bet you have a reason why "its still not an excuse". hey i cannot change your opinion, friend. I can only try to help ease your negative thoughts about the game, thus I will not argue with you. (I swear I only come into these boards to be nice and share info.)

I will say these last few things though...
the lighting affects both costumes in the game. the games costumes both have specific textures and detail. the black suit looks kinda alien oily, and the red suit has seams in it. not only that but there is no way to COMFORTABLY fit in extra suits without ALOT of difficult work. why?

if you take a look at the gameplay mechanics, you'll notice that if your wearing the say, Spider-man 2099 skin over regular gameplay spidey, it'd be REALLY hard to tell which style suit you are wearing without attacking to check. (yea thats good if you can remember, but a game shouldnt have to force you to do that. it should be obvious) plus it'd be kinda funky seeing black tentacle attacks coming out of him. it wouldnt have a cohesive look to it.

i think they made a good decision, extra costumes don't fit the theme of the game.

sorry if you guys are upset. but trust me....this won't break the game. and it definitely wouldnt make the game. look at Iron man and the hulk. (without an opinion about whether they suck or not.)

2 GREAT examples of extra costumes being in a game and add nothing to it. why do they work in those games? because there is only one play style.



That is all. hope this post gave you a new way to look at the situation, but hey when it comes down to it, its just my opinion. agree or disagree I don't care, all i know is im looking forward to some fun when i pick it up.

 

[Nathan]

if you take a look at the gameplay mechanics, you'll notice that if your wearing the say, Spider-man 2099 skin over regular gameplay spidey, it'd be REALLY hard to tell which style suit you are wearing without attacking to check. (yea thats good if you can remember, but a game shouldnt have to force you to do that. it should be obvious) plus it'd be kinda funky seeing black tentacle attacks coming out of him. it wouldnt have a cohesive look to it.

That's why I said you should be only able to change the classic red/blue into a different suit. But the black suit stays when you switch play styles.

i think they made a good decision, extra costumes don't fit the theme of the game.

Then make costumes available after the game has been beaten. The gamers play the game as it's intended and for the 2nd playthrough they can play around with extra suits.

sorry if you guys are upset. but trust me....this won't break the game. and it definitely wouldnt make the game. look at Iron man and the hulk. (without an opinion about whether they suck or not.)

2 GREAT examples of extra costumes being in a game and add nothing to it. why do they work in those games? because there is only one play style.

What's funny about those is that both games were based on movies, yet had unlockable comic costumes. I still don't understand why the Spidey Movie games didn't have them as well.

That is all. hope this post gave you a new way to look at the situation, but hey when it comes down to it, its just my opinion. agree or disagree I don't care, all i know is im looking forward to some fun when i pick it up.

Well, no, it didn't give me a new look at the situation at all. And you do seem to care otherwise you wouldn't try to convince me that costumes are not important. But just to be clear, I'm not saying the game is going to because there are no extra costumes. I'm still looking foward to it as well, but some unlockable costumes would add some replay value.

 

[Brainiac 8]

My gripes aside, I don't think it's a deal breaker, which isn't what I was saying. It's more just an unfortunate oversight, that is all.

I'm looking forward to seeing how you guys like it, since after SM3 and USM I'm much more weary of their Spider-Man titles...but without a movie deadline to meet, it should be much better.

I just want more fluid combat (Which it seems to have), less glitches, more to do in the city, and a good assortment of villians. The last thing is the only major thing that I'm afraid it will lack.

 

[Silverstein]

Well, I guess I could always pull the "these guys have degrees and therefore know what they are talking about card."

but I bet you have a reason why "its still not an excuse". hey i cannot change your opinion, friend. I can only try to help ease your negative thoughts about the game, thus I will not argue with you. (I swear I only come into these boards to be nice and share info.)

I will say these last few things though...
the lighting affects both costumes in the game. the games costumes both have specific textures and detail. the black suit looks kinda alien oily, and the red suit has seams in it. not only that but there is no way to COMFORTABLY fit in extra suits without ALOT of difficult work. why?

if you take a look at the gameplay mechanics, you'll notice that if your wearing the say, Spider-man 2099 skin over regular gameplay spidey, it'd be REALLY hard to tell which style suit you are wearing without attacking to check. (yea thats good if you can remember, but a game shouldnt have to force you to do that. it should be obvious) plus it'd be kinda funky seeing black tentacle attacks coming out of him. it wouldnt have a cohesive look to it.

i think they made a good decision, extra costumes don't fit the theme of the game.

sorry if you guys are upset. but trust me....this won't break the game. and it definitely wouldnt make the game. look at Iron man and the hulk. (without an opinion about whether they suck or not.)

2 GREAT examples of extra costumes being in a game and add nothing to it. why do they work in those games? because there is only one play style.



That is all. hope this post gave you a new way to look at the situation, but hey when it comes down to it, its just my opinion. agree or disagree I don't care, all i know is im looking forward to some fun when i pick it up.

That makes perfect sense and all but I think they meant that alternate costumes would ONLY be interchangeable with classic spidey. So you'd always have the black suit to switch to.

And Scarlet Spidey, Ben Reilly, Peter Parker (or to be clever), even the black suit, would all make sense within the theme for the story.

A black suit "cloth" costume would be an awesome skin for the classic spidey suit. Because then you could do "fast" non-symbiote moves with black spidey. And they have already made the character model, so it's perfect.

Anyways I'm still waiting on spidey0 to tell me about hobgoblin..

 

[Styleshift]

What I tell ya? An reply for everything....

That's why I said you should be only able to change the classic red/blue into a different suit. But the black suit stays when you switch play styles.

fair enough, but what does that really do for gameplay? just nostalgia right? the psx spider-man costumes actually affected gameplay. I would love for create a spider to return. but games are so much more difficult to make in this day and age. I'd rather them do what they can right than to fit in too many special features that don't work within the context of the game.

the overall experience might be hurt if they took time out to focus on those special features. sometimes less means SO much more.

again i'd rather them add on to a finish product with DLC than give us an incomplete game that just looks pretty.

why can't you just accept my opinion? I'm not forcing it on you. I just tried giving you another way to look at the situation. if you choose to ignore it oh well.

Then make costumes available after the game has been beaten. The gamers play the game as it's intended and for the 2nd playthrough they can play around with extra suits.

yup.

What's funny about those is that both games were based on movies, yet had unlockable comic costumes. I still don't understand why the Spidey Movie games didn't have them as well.

and whats hysterical is that both games of those games sucked and all of the spidey games made by treyarch have generated good to great scores....

none of them have gotten poor scores.

Well, no, it didn't give me a new look at the situation at all. And you do seem to care otherwise you wouldn't try to convince me that costumes are not important. But just to be clear, I'm not saying the game is going to because there are no extra costumes. I'm still looking foward to it as well, but some unlockable costumes would add some replay value.

See thats the thing, I DO care about you as a fellow member of the SHH! boards. you have had some great posts in the past and I greatly respect that.

but....

I could careless if you think unlockable costumes add a significant boost to actual gameplay or not. because it is FACT that it DOES NOT.

I could careless if you thought batman should be an unlockable character and had excellent reasons why he should be included. (and yes a friend of mine that doesn't know comics felt he should be in the game.)

at the end of the day, when i pick up my copy its all about what i think, am i having fun with this game? thats what matters. (ME, ME, ME, ME, MEEEEEEEE!!! t

so boys and girls. why don't i care about getting my opinion in his head?
well i'm pretty sure i won't be thinking "OMG Nathan isn't having fun with this game because there are NO EXTRA UNLOCKABLE SUITS!!!" while im playing.

My gripes aside, I don't think it's a deal breaker, which isn't what I was saying. It's more just an unfortunate oversight, that is all.

I'm looking forward to seeing how you guys like it, since after SM3 and USM I'm much more weary of their Spider-Man titles...but without a movie deadline to meet, it should be much better.

I just want more fluid combat (Which it seems to have), less glitches, more to do in the city, and a good assortment of villians. The last thing is the only major thing that I'm afraid it will lack.

Looks like Braniac here got the right idea about what i was saying.
he's like "screw this guy, this is my problem. but oh well....I'll deal." lol.

btw i KNOW you weren't saying it was a deal breaker. I was just saying the unlockable costumes aren't going to be a big loss.

 

[Xclaim]

Hey, nobody loves alternate costumes in a Spidey game as much as I do. But I'll trade them off in a heartbeat for a solid Spider-Man game. We are getting his top 2 suits anyways, each with their own powers and morality. So there's little room for complaint in this game so far. Besides, just because they have no plans for DLC now doesn't mean they never will.

Hell, if nothing else, they brought back the Web Yo-Yo. I'm sold.

 

[Nathan]

why can't you just accept my opinion? I'm not forcing it on you. I just tried giving you another way to look at the situation. if you choose to ignore it oh well.

I'm not dismissing your opinion. You say extra costumes aren't needed, that's good. It's just the reasons you try to give me why extra costumes aren't in, that don't sound convincing at all.

 

[Styleshift]

That makes perfect sense and all but I think they meant that alternate costumes would ONLY be interchangeable with classic spidey. So you'd always have the black suit to switch to.

And Scarlet Spidey, Ben Reilly, Peter Parker (or to be clever), even the black suit, would all make sense within the theme for the story.

A black suit "cloth" costume would be an awesome skin for the classic spidey suit. Because then you could do "fast" non-symbiote moves with black spidey. And they have already made the character model, so it's perfect.

Anyways I'm still waiting on spidey0 to tell me about hobgoblin..

eh I'm not saying i hate extra costumes and that they should never be in a spidey game ever. I'm just saying its not a big loss compared to other mechanics. and in this day and age in gaming they CAN add dlc costumes to the game.

something like the lack of great villains/bosses is a great loss.

 

[Styleshift]

I'm not dismissing your opinion. You say extra costumes aren't needed, that's good. It's just the reasons you try to give me why extra costumes aren't in, that don't sound convincing at all.

thanks....i think.

again i would love extra costumes also. but my overall opinion on it, is if it doesn't do anything special? why bother?

the pure fun for me and most of my friends from the psx spidey games was the fact that extra abilities came from them. like hitting the select button to turn invisible.