Age of Ultron SPOILERS INSIDE What you didn't like about Avengers: Age of Ultron - Flaws/Critiques

[Slushy]

The Falcon not being in on the action of the opening sequence.

Changing Ultron's "your extinction" line to "The Avengers' extinction." LAME!

The stupid romance with Hulk and Black Widow. I guess we're supposed to forget about Betty?

The floating island bomb plot was dumb. Ultron = Skynet

Marvel repeats it with Captain America playing second fiddle. Tony Stark invents Ultron, defeats The Hulk, and saves the world again. Might as well have called this movie Iron Man And His Friends.



Side note: While the rest of the film was great, I wish Ultron would've killed The Avengers like Iron Man foresaw then he finds the Time Gem to go back to stop Ultron. It would've been like Days Of Future Past, but better.

 

[eon001]

My only real problem was the general pacing and the fast tracking of Ultrons origin. But considering the movie was 2 hours plus, it was totally forgivable imo.

 

[Marchesk]

The Avengers only seemed to be in real danger from the Scarlet Witch's mind mojo. Ultron was a serious let down as a villain. I went to that movie on crowded opening weekend just to see a villain worthy of taking on the Avengers, but that wasn't Ultron. In the last battle, you even had Black Widow and Hawkeye killing Ultron bots with ease. They might as well have been fighting human soldiers, like in the opening scene.

I guess a worthy opponent will have to wait until Thanos. I thought Ultron was supposed to be one of the most fearsome villains in the MCU, but he was not threatening other than in Tony's vision, which was the Witch's doing.

And if you're going to kill off a character, don't kill off one that the audience has no emotional bond with. What was the point in killing Quick Silver? Kill off a character that matters.

The end result of Ultron was a lot of property damage. That's it. The Witch and her twin would have made a better foe.

 

[Slushy]

And if you're going to kill off a character, don't kill off one that the audience has no emotional bond with. What was the point in killing Quick Silver? Kill off a character that matters.

If you go by process of elimination, he was the odd man out. Somebody had to go.

 

[Marchesk]

If you go by process of elimination, he was the odd man out. Somebody had to go.

I realize that now, after reading some more posts. Maybe I've gotten too used to TWD and GoT character treatment.

 

[Silvermoon]

Nitpicky wise, I felt a sense that some stuff could be condensed while other stuff could be expanded on.

On a bit of a more major note, though, the main thing I didn't particularly care for was the Banner/Natasha romance. It just didn't feel like it worked within the context of the film.

 

[NHawk19]

I dunno I guess the opening was something I think could've used a little more setup. Why/how did they all get back together? Could've been a simple scene with Coulson telling Hill about the base then Hill calling the Avengers to take care of it.

Also sort of irks me that it seems like Tony's "growth" in IM3 was ignored, and I know it's Fury he's "mysterious" but what's he been up to? He hasn't been scene by SHIELD really and he just managed to find the Avengers? Cap and Hill were the only 2 supposed to know he was alive.

 

[kedrell]

I'm not going to call it a flaw(yet) but since when did Utron basically get Graviton's power set? I mean I know it wasn't him but rather a machine using vibranium that he built which lifted the city but even before that when Cap was chasing him in Korea he was ripping up the street with some sort of energy power to try and stop him and I just wonder if I missed a plot point where him doing that kind of thing was explained. Because he uses it a few times so it would seem more than just a one off type of thing. Anybody got an explaination or a theory or anything? Thanks.

 

[kane9321]

banner- natasha love crap

 

[drod1985]

Marvel repeats it with Captain America playing second fiddle. Tony Stark invents Ultron, defeats The Hulk, and saves the world again. Might as well have called this movie Iron Man And His Friends.

I think you're missing a huge piece of the puzzle here: Tony (and Natasha) were ready to sacrifice everybody in Sokovia to minimize damage. Steve is the one that was adamant about saving everybody, and held out till there was a viable option. Steve was still the heart of the film, and to me that makes a better hero than the muscle or the brains.

Back to our regularly scheduled program of things we didn't like: Upon second viewing I still think the movie needed an extra 10-15 minutes to really build on some character interactions, sub-plots, and even tie up some loose ends. For instance: the last we see of Tony and Thor during the final battle is Tony dodging falling pieces of rock and Thor sinking in the ocean, and then suddenly they're back at HQ and everything is cool. We didn't have a "We did it. We won." moment like in TA.

 

[gdw]

I actually had a LOT less concerns than I thought I would, given the reviews.

Oddly, most of the review critiques, and the things that are bothering others, didn't bother me at all.

I didn't mind the Natasha Banner romance subplot. I thought, going in, that it was going to be a relationship that had already developed, but I liked that it was more something that hadn't yet begun.
It gave Banner's arc much more resonance, and his/Hulks final decisions to have much more weight.

There were things I think could have been tweaked slightly, as far as development and pacing, but overall it worked great. I imagine most of those "concerns" are things actually addressed in the deleted scenes.
Not that those are necessarily cannon, but rather that these things weren't just a matter of poor planning, but rather cut for time, likely by the studio.


I'd have to say that my only real gripe (after just my first viewing mind you) was that they didn't really explain how Stark goes from the end of IM3, to the start of A:AOA.
It's pretty much implied/can be inferred that the fallout from CA:TWS was what made his suit up again. It's essentially said that cleaning up Hydra, and finding the Loki Pokey stick, were what brought the team back together, so it can probably be assumed that was what made Stark realize he wasn't quite done.

The repeating/continuing theme of him striving to make Iron Man himself obsolete also helped make this not as big of an issue for me though. In that regards, it was very much a continuation of what was done in IM3, thematically. Especially considering it wasn't only a theme for Stark's arc, it was the entire driving factor/motivation for everything he did in the film, and everything that happens as a result. In other words, the entire film is the result of where Tony was left at the end of IM3. I also imagine this might be something addressed more directly in the deleted scenes.

I imagine this will still be huge plot/character thing through CAP:CW and A:IW I and II, and probably even the Spider-Man film, if the rumors are true. The ever expanding roster, New Avengers, and such, will be part of Stark trying to make sure the world will be safe without him.
Probably culminating with IW pt I seeing the main Avengers MIA, or go missing in the film, leading to back up/New Avengers roster with Spider-Man, DD, etc, stepping up, similar to what they did in the Avengers: EMH cartoon.

 

[Legendver2]

I was really looking forward to this movie tbh, from all the trailers and the sense of urgency it created and the menace of Ultron. Unfortunately, while the movie was very entertaining, filled to the T with money shots, and story moved faster than Avengers 1, which put me to sleep in the first hour, AoU was pretty much the definition of too much fluff, and no substance.

Ultron is one of my favorite villains in the comics, and from the trailers, i was expecting him (it?) to be menacing, and create a real sense of urgency and consequence in his evil. But what we, or I ended up getting, was a cartoon-y hammy villain with jokes and quips of his own. Whatever lines he said in regards to humanity's extinction was said with such a nonchalant manner that it feels like it just wanted to accomplish that goal because of its programming, and not because it sincerely felt that humans were a disease. And the scene where the twins were talking about their sad past, Ultron's expression had a "ok whatever" look, maybe it's just bad mo-cap or cgi in portraying emotions from a robotic character, but it seriously looked like he didn't care and just listened to get on the twins good side so they'd help him.

In regards to the sense of urgency and danger, I was severely disappointed when the scene showing the fallen Avengers that was hyped up at the SDCC trailer turned out to just be an illusion -_-

I was also half expecting Hawkeye to die, since he debuted his family AND he said this will be his last mission, a common trope to a character who's gonna die on the final mission. But alas, he survived, but a character we just got introduced to and didn't even have a chance to connect with died instead, so it's tough to get any feels for QS, since through the whole movie, half his lines were basically "you didn't see that coming?"

 

[Marchesk]

In regards to the sense of urgency and danger, I was severely disappointed when the scene showing the fallen Avengers that was hyped up at the SDCC trailer turned out to just be an illusion -_-

Me too. I was hoping and expecting Ultron to seemingly defeat the Avengers before they somehow pull it out, maybe because of Vision saving them or the SW and her brother turning on Ultron at the end. But no, they killed all those possibilities by having all three on the Avengers side for the final showdown such that Ultron doesn't stand a chance. His only means of success is to drop the city, but everyone knew the Avengers wouldn't let that succeed.

I was also hoping to see Ultron evolve more in the movie to be a real powerful threat, but the stealing of the Vision body prevented that.

 

[Marchesk]

The repeating/continuing theme of him striving to make Iron Man himself obsolete also helped make this not as big of an issue for me though. In that regards, it was very much a continuation of what was done in IM3, thematically. Especially considering it wasn't only a theme for Stark's arc, it was the entire driving factor/motivation for everything he did in the film, and everything that happens as a result. In other words, the entire film is the result of where Tony was left at the end of IM3. I also imagine this might be something addressed more directly in the deleted scenes.

He destroys all the suits at the end of IM3 and walks away from being IM, so I don't understand how it's possibly a continuation.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Two things I didn't like from this movie

Killing off Pietro
No end credits scene

He destroys all the suits at the end of IM3 and walks away from being IM, so I don't understand how it's possibly a continuation.

He never gave up being Iron Man.

And so, as Christmas morning began, my journey was at its end. You start with something pure. Something exciting. Then come the mistakes, the compromises. We create our own demons. As promised, I got Pepper sorted out. Took a little tinkering. But then I thought "why stop there?" Of course there are people who say progress is dangerous, but then I bet none of those idiots ever had to live with a chest full of shrapnel. And now, neither will I. Let me tell you: that was the best sleep I'd had in years. So if I were to wrap this up tight with a bow or whatever, I guess I'd say my armor, it was never a distraction or a hobby, it was a cocoon. And now, I'm a changed man. You can take away my house, all my tricks and toys. One thing you can't take away...I am Iron Man.

 

[Silvermoon]

He destroys all the suits at the end of IM3 and walks away from being IM, so I don't understand how it's possibly a continuation.

Except he doesn't, given that his final words before the credits start to roll are "I am Iron Man." (not to mention, look at what's happened in between IM3 and now - Dark Elves attacking London and, biggest of all, SHIELD completely collapsing and revealing that a neo-Nazi organization has been simmering within it for the past 70 years) - even *if* the end of IM3 were a retirement (which personally I never saw it as), something like SHIELD going kablooey would definitely be something that would bring him out of retirement

 

[Marchesk]

Except he doesn't, given that his final words before the credits start to roll are "I am Iron Man." (not to mention, look at what's happened in between IM3 and now - Dark Elves attacking London and, biggest of all, SHIELD completely collapsing and revealing that a neo-Nazi organization has been simmering within it for the past 70 years) - even *if* the end of IM3 were a retirement (which personally I never saw it as), something like SHIELD going kablooey would definitely be something that would bring him out of retirement

I got the impression he was retiring, but maybe that was a wrong impression. As for the rest, I guess there was no way to fit bringing him back into the equation in a movie with so much going on as it was. It did seem to me as if IM3 had never taken place.

 

[PunyGod]

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[spark627]

I liked the film but didn't love it.

The things I didn't like...
-much of it felt like a rehash of the first film - saving a city, team dynamics

-didn't like the amount of banter and humor, a bit of this is nice but most of it fell flat and really ruined the moment (my husband pointed out that every serious conversation was disrupted by a 'joke' of some sort). The ongoing teasing of Steve about cursing felt old by the third time

-Nat/Bruce - I don't mind the pairing but it came out of nowhere and their dialogue felt clunky considering it was brand new

-length... this felt long to me. Everything between the party and them leaving the farm felt slow.

 

[HaplessHenchman]

Things I didn't like:

- The BW/Hulk romance. Just seemed forced. Plus BW seemed to go from bad ass warrior babe to love sick puppy by the end.

- Hawkeye's family. Just because I think this would have come up in TA with him being mind controlled by Loki. Wouldn't BW have mentioned his family when trying to get him back? She obviously knew about them since they called her "Aunt". Also, when Hydra took over Shield, wouldn't they have gotten information on one of SHIELD'S top operatives and have known about his family farm? Assuming this, wouldn't they have at least tried to taken them out? And before you say it, I know he said that Fury set it all up so that is the reason it might not be on SHIELD's books, but it just felt like weak writing.

- Hydra takes over SHIELD but somehow can't locate one of their huge helicarriers. Leaving it for Fury to use and swoop in to save the day. Plus, where did he get the crew to operate it?

 

[Doc Samson]

-Same issue I had with the first film, after awhile, the jokes aren't funny and come off almost as parody.

-Obviously a bit bias, so I didn't mind the idea of the Banner/Natasha stuff, I minded that it came completely out of nowhere and goes against her personality to be that open with anyone.

-Ultron becoming evil in about 3 seconds.

-Ultron in general being portrayed as Stark. I'm tired of IM being the center of this whole entire universe seemingly. It's enough that he created the thing, at the very least just let it be menacing and scary, not quipping and acting like Stark. I get it, I know why, but it wasn't the right decision to me.

-Thor's bath. Didn't understand what he saw about the Vision because we didn't see it. If that was the whole point, then why leave that part out?

-RDJ's shtick as Tony, on a whole, is starting to wear on me.

Maybe they're trying to make him irritating for Civil War, I don't know, but just his way with this character in general with the constant pomp & quips seems more forced now than it ever did in IM1, still the high water mark for the character IMO.

-While I'm on it, I don't understand what the meaning of IM3 was supposed to be anymore. I thought he figured out he didn't need the suits to be a hero. But more to the point, that it wasn't a great idea having them operate on their own without him either? I'm sure someone will tell me I'm missing something but his personality and motives in this film made no sense. ESPECIALLY after Ultron starts running amok, and he's just ready to do another experiment anyway? His only real consequence being grabbed by Thor for a few seconds?

-More cannon fodder instead of real threatening bad guys to deal with.

-The whole idea of Ultron has been done to death, as far as A.I. becoming self aware and wanting human extinction. I feel like they could've been more original with it.

 

[CaptainWagner]

My complaints:


-Ultron's origin could have been drawn out a little more

-Strucker was wasted

-CGI was spotty in some parts

-Killing Pietro was just incredibly stupid and pointless. And then they don't even talk about it afterwards! In a lesser movie, his death would have ruined it, but I loved the rest of the film enough that the effect wasn't as awful as it could have.

 

[ThePhantasm]

I feel like the ending would have been more effective if Cap had at least said part of the second word.

"Avengers, Ass-"
*cut to credits*

 

[Herolee10]

Anyone else find it strange that not a single resident/civilian in Solkovia was actually shown speaking their native word over there? It's like everyone there only knew how to speak English.

 

[martijndepro]

Anyone else find it strange that not a single resident/civilian in Solkovia was actually shown speaking their native word over there? It's like everyone there only knew how to speak English.

That is indeed weird. I loved how they did that in the movie 'Valkyrie' with Tom Cruise. Cruise and everyone else actually started the movie speaking German, and whilst in the middle of a conversation it gradually changed from German into English. I always found that a creative way to get the language problem out of the way.

Not saying it would work with AoU, considering the movie takes place all around the world, but you know...