The Amazing Spider-Man Stan Lee talks Spider-Man Reboot and Iron Man 2 Cameo

[©KAW]

I'm talking about Marvel's Movies (not a freakin' TV show), where it counts, Stan Lee unfortunately is a YES MAN, are you denying that?

I'm always weary of those who work for and are big names with Marvel, commenting on Marvel films, if Stan Lee can't say what he dislikes about these films, how much can anyone else say--which includes Mark Miller?

 

[david icke]

I'm talking about Marvel's Movies (not a freakin' TV show), where it counts, Stan Lee unfortunately is a YES MAN, are you denying that?

Ok, i will clarify what I typed up before, as i was pretty tired when i wrote that.

Yes, Stan Lee is probably mostly positive about the new slew of Marvel movies that started with X-Men(or Blade if you want to go with non-stan material), but I think this enthusiasm is probably genuine because he feels any adaptation differences are negligible compared to all the live action stuff that was done in that past, that he was critical of.
He is not as particular as the fans I imagine, but then, I have not read that many interviews with him on the movies and certainly haven't read any in a while, so I can't say for sure how positive he is, but i imagine he is quite gushing about those he bothers to comment on.

edit: also, those things he said about the organic web-shooters being ok by him, and that they would not have been allowed to do those in the books back in the day if he had thought of it(not sure if he did or not), was 100% genuine too. I think he just feels the same as many long term fans do(myself included), that there are other aspects to Parker/Spider-man that are far more important, the web-whooters are just another 'power' he has, and how he gets that power is secondary to the creative uses that power is put to in the stories.

I'm always weary of those who work for and are big names with Marvel, commenting on Marvel films, if Stan Lee can't say what he dislikes about these films, how much can anyone else say--which includes Mark Miller?

Dude, I do not have the exact quote at hand, but Mark Miller was not 100% positive he said MaGuire was Ditko's PP made flesh(exact quote), but that there are things you can be picky about with the movie. edit: I think that was 100% genuine, he usually speaks his mind. He does not seem like the type to be a 'yes' man at all.
I also said about Gene Colan, long time Marvel artist and Daredevil artist from the 70s(who also did some work for the big DD aniversary issue last year), he was very critical of the DD movie, I don't have the quote at hand, it's in a mag I have, but he was very hard on the movie. I honestly think it's a little paranoid to think these guys are all in a conspiracy to only say good things about the movies.

 

[Jack O Lantern]

Stans best cameo was Mallrats

 

[jdogg willie]

I would say Stan is probably the exception in giving mostly positive opinions, because he is just so happy about finally getting decent versions onscreen compared to all the crap in the past.

Like that craptacular '70s Spider-Man TV mini-series

 

[david icke]

Like that craptacular '70s Spider-Man TV mini-series

I loved that show when I was a kid though, and if it was released on dvd I would get a huge kick/laugh out of watching it again. It was a terrible representation of the character to a general audience though, i mean, I read Spider-man comics before i saw that show, I knew what it was missing but, hell, i would have been about 5/6/7 yrs old when they showed that in the UK, they even showed some in the cinema as movies, so I got a huge kick out of it at the time.
The Hulk series was much better , and was a good example of material being adapted and changed successfully for a tv show.

I even quite liked the live action Daredevil in that Hulk tv movie, the guy from 'Street Hawk' who played him was pretty good i thought, although the costume was bad. Frank Miller actually used that costume in his DD:Year One type book, 'Man without Fear', so that is canon now, lol.
Stan hated that costume, and said that the designer should have been put on a deseert island with only DC comics to read.
and I have to say, in reagrds to what I typed up before on Stan, I am not some fanboy who is blindly standing up for him. I have tore into Stan before on messageboards when I have been angered by something he has said, like when he played down Ditko's part in Spider-man's creation on that BBC Ditko doc.

 

[©KAW]

I won't even give Stan Lee a pass for loving some really horrible Marvel films. There's no way in hell he likes them all.

 

[©KAW]

Double D Post.

 

[david icke]

I won't even give Stan Lee a pass for loving some really horrible Marvel films. There's no way in hell he likes them all.

Like I said, I haven't read Stan's opinion on all the Marvel movies, so couldn't really say what he thinks of them all, have you? Or are you just assuming? Are you condemning the guy without seeing any evidence? I haven't read any quotes cited from the guy yet on the thread.
Am I giving him a pass? No, I'm not, please don't twist my words, I'm saying that I don't think he's a 'yes' man, as in he'll say what he thinks, and if his enthusiasm papers over the cracks of some movies, I'm not surprised, as that's the type of guy he seems to be, a glass half full type of guy, rather than a 'holy s***, that's not even a glass!' type of guy.

 

[©KAW]

Twisting your words, I said "I" won't give him a pass?

That pretty much goes for everyone at Marvel. The evidence is Marvel rolling out a line crap movies and all he cares about is his cheesy ass cameos. I love the man for his great co-creations, but Marvel as a company has lost a voice for their own characters.

 

[david icke]

Twisting your words, I said "I" won't give him a pass?

Yeah, I thought there was an air of implication that I had already gave Stan a pass because of the way the previous live action things had panned out.
If I'm being paranoid about that I apologise.

That pretty much goes for everyone at Marvel. The evidence is Marvel rolling out a line crap movies and all he cares about is his cheesy ass cameos. I love the man for his great co-creations, but Marvel as a company has lost a voice for their own characters.

I agree that he is the kind of guy who is very interested in the 'show' aspect of the business, and likes to be in the spotlight, but I'm sure he cares about the quality of the movies his characters feature in. He's just maybe not as particular as folk on these kind of message boards.
and I really don't think folk over at Marvel keep their mouths shut if they think a movie has failed creatively.
Ang Lee's Hulk did not too bad at the BO, and had it's fans, but Marvel were not happy with the tone of the movie and took it back to re-boot. I'm sure there will have been Marvel people vocal about that in the press.

 

[©KAW]

Don't apologize...everyone is a bit paranoid around here.

It doesn't have to be Stan Lee, but there has to be a voice for Marvel, who's main focus is on the quality and representation of their characters on film. I've seen none of that, everyone, including Steve Ditko's family who's suing Disney/Marvel don't care about the quality and portrayal of the characters, they just want a piece of daddy's money. Galactus is a cloud of freakin' smoke, and everyone at Marvel does nothing about correcting this abomination of his character. But hey, as long as someone get a cheap ass cameo, so what.

Being extremely competitive and sticking to the core of your characters that made them interesting and having a long existence should be #1...and it's not. I just hate to see such great characters wasted on screen. Comic book films that are forgotten about, rebooted or becomes dated in just a few years.

 

[david icke]

Don't apologize...everyone is a bit paranoid around here.

It doesn't have to be Stan Lee, but there has to be a voice for Marvel, who's main focus is on the quality and representation of their characters on film. I've seen none of that, everyone, including Steve Ditko's family who's suing Disney/Marvel don't care about the quality and portrayal of the characters, they just want a piece of daddy's money. Galactus is a cloud of freakin' smoke, and everyone at Marvel does nothing about correcting this abomination of his character. But hey, as long as someone get a cheap ass cameo, so what.

Being extremely competitive and sticking to the core of your characters that made them interesting and having a long existence should be #1...and it's not. I just hate to see such great characters wasted on screen. Comic book films that are forgotten about, rebooted or becomes dated in just a few years.

You have to remember that when Marvel sold the rights for Fantastic four, Spider-man, X-Men, Daredevil etc, they were in dire financial straits, and they don't have any control over the quality of these productions.
Stan Lee's name is on there as producer, but tbh, I don't know what role he plays, probably sits in on meetings or something, but no final say. Avi arad is a former toy manufacturer who is basically in it for the merchandise, so he will be concerned with money over creative quality.
Marvel are trying to control their own movies now with their own studio, so that they are quality movies.

You will get writers and artists who work for Marvel giving opinions on the movies though, that are not always 100%positive.
But, I'm not sure if the company are even allowed legally to speak in a negative light in the media about properties being adapted that they have sold to other parties, I would imagine there is something against that in the contract.

 

[©KAW]

The question is, are these people at Marvel under contract not to say bad things about these films? Criticism is actually the best defense against making more Marvel films that are not of good quality. People at Marvel, don't need to be in control of the character's movie rights, to speak out against the poor quality that said films are receiving. Although they should be in control, true, but it shouldn't stop them from criticizing their own movies. I think that's one of the main problems.

 

[Dragon]

Of course Marvel can't speak aganst these films. They have a vested interest in their success and yes, could be sued for making durogatory statements. Stan Lee especially. He's a paid spokesman for Marvel. Not to mention that since his lawsuit he gets a piece of the pie for his creations.

And let's also note- Marvel's people aren't filmmakers. So they aren't anymore equipped at insuring that these are good films than nayone else. They haven't even been producing such great comics for the longest time.

 

[©KAW]

Well, I pretty much knew Stan Lee was a YES MAN, but the whole damn company. Now we know why Stan loves organic web-shooters so much. And why Mark Miller thinks Tobey Maguire was the best Peter Parker since sliced bread. Damn shame, the company is setup to glorify crap.

 

[MrSpyder]

Stan has been great in the cameos

 

[DACrowe]

et him do as many cameos as he wants. The only ones I didn't like were the ones in The Incredible Hulkand...well that's it. I just thought it was too-in-your-face there. The one in Iron Man was pretty clever. I also really liked the one in FF2 as it was like in a comic he wrote and hilarious. His cameo in DD was simple, but not blink-and-you-miss-it like in the first two Spidey movies and X-Men.

I know a lot of people hate his cameo/scene in SM3, but I kind of like it. I don't know how much longer Stan is going to be around, so just in case getting him to stand next to Spider-Man (and for most people in 2007, Tobey Maguire is/was Spider-Man) and give him a slap on the back to bittersweet music (i.e. the character's M.O.) worked really well.

 

[bubbadoom]

Willie Lumpkin was the best!

 

[Captain America]

Stan is the Man!

Nuff Said.

 

[Spider-Who?]

Marvel could become a terror group in league with Al Queda and Stan would be like..."Well im sure its for the best"

Ppbpbpbpbppbpbt!

Thanks, now i gotta clean this apple juice off my screen.

 

[mre]

Ahh ha ha ha! Hilarious! I can totally picture him saying that, in a situation like that.