State Your Opinion on A Character

[Anubis]

Well, that's it for Barry.

Spoiler

Darksied

 

[trustyside-kick]

Gotta say the most I've enjoyed Darkseid and his minions has been the Timmverse Superman/JL/JLU cartoons. My only exposure of Darkseid and his minions has been through Morrison in early JLA and recent before the reboot and I don't hide that I hate majority of Morrison's writing.

So I'm hoping I like Johns' re-introduction of the villain and his minions.

 

[Spike_x1]

I don't like Darkseid when a writer has him fill a role that Mongul was specifically created for: being an intergalactic conqueror for Superman to beat up.

Unfortunately for the character, his popularity in the DCAU led many people to think that Darkseid should be reserved as a nemesis for Superman, and that was apparently just sort of his thing. Darkseid should be a threat far bigger than Superman, and he should only very rarely lower himself to using his fists. That's supposed to be a job for Kalibak and the Female Furies and s**t.

Now, I actually liked the big climactic fight between Darkseid and Superman in STAS, mostly because you see that Superman is clearly outclassed when he's one on one with him. Sure, Clark gets a couple hits in, but Darkseid could obviously kill him at any time, and Superman only wins by using Darkseid's own power against him at the last possible instant before he's killed. Nothing wrong there, IMO. We got to see Darkseid in his glory and Superman managed to save the day without watering down the villain for story convenience.

The problem was Darkseid's resulting popularity after making such a splash in STAS. Now he needed to duke it out with Superman all the damn time, and while he might put Clark down for the count on the rare occasion, he could never really win since he was the bad guy. So things just got sadder and sadder for him as years passed and his losses piled up.

I remember several specific occasions in the comics where Darkseid even blasted Superman with his omega beams, clearly with the intention of killing him, not just causing pain or whatever. Superman shrugs it off. Knowing what the omega effect is supposed to be, depending on Darkseid's whims, I cry a little inside.

And while I'm on the subject, it always grinds my gears when someone tries to bring up how badass Doomday is because he survived Darkseid's omega beams. I have to wonder on these occasions if those people actually read the story and know what the omega effect is. Darkseid specifically says in the given scene that he's intending to fry Doomsday and keep his remains around in molten rock as a monument. IE: Darkseid did not try to wipe Doomsday from existence. And by the time Darkseid realized his mistake and was about to correct it, Doomsday knocked him out.

And I didn't read Final Crisis or any material around it, so I don't have an opinion regarding Darkseid's portrayal in more recent years.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Darkseid, I like him, but I've only seen him in the 'toons.

 

[PaleRider]

I love Darkseid when he isn't being used as a jobber.

 

[Anubis]

^ What he said.

I remember reading the Great Darkness Saga in Legion of Superheroes. Now THAT'S how Darksied is supposed to be handled. He took everything the Legion threw at em. Beat the crap outta Superboy and Supergirls at the same time. He was a beast. I really hope that this new continuity places Darksied at the top of the bad guy pyramid like he's supposed to be....but I doubt it's gonna go down like that.

 

[Mystirious]

Well, that's it for Barry.

Spoiler

Darksied

When he's written well I love Darkseid and I thought the way Cornell wrote him was great. Chuckling away insanely like an evil rocky santa claus and being as dramatic and over the top as possible.

I love the original Kirby stories as well the entire Fourth World mythology and all the characters and concepts he created for it

Though I find it disturbing that Darkseid sends minions to earth to buy him porn

I'm not making that up. It was in an issue of John Byrne's Superman

It happened

 

[Anubis]

That was when Superman and Big Barda got mind controlled into almost making porno?


That was Special Classic.

 

[Mystirious]

That was when Superman and Big Barda got mind controlled into almost making porno?


That was Special Classic.

It was indeed in that issue

Though Superman and Barda actually made the porno

So in the DCU Superman canonically has a porn tape

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

That was when Superman and Big Barda got mind controlled into almost making porno?


That was Special Classic.

Oh man! did i love that book Supes seemed to seedy in it! That was hella wrong !

it's Darksied of course that dude rocks !He's like Thanos only not as crazy!( man! you gotta be, to be in love with death ! I mean shes a skull for jimmy cricket's sake! I wouldnt want those skeleton teeth anywhere near.... uh never mind went off on a tangent hehe) I agree that he should be more "Oh crap! we gotta get everybody to stop him instead of just a Supes villain! But when you got "Toyman!!" as one of your rouges! you need somebody like Darky! Dude rocks!

 

[Kitsune]

It was indeed in that issue

Though Superman and Barda actually made the porno

So in the DCU Superman canonically has a porn tape

I wonder how much that would go for on Ebay.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Darkseid's cool, but put me down as one who hates when he shows up just to get his ass kicked by Superman or, worse, f***ing Batman.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

Darkseid's cool, but put me down as one who hates when he shows up just to get his ass kicked by Superman or, worse, f***ing Batman.

i totally agree with this! Crap like this is what sets batman's fans ablaze with that dude can kick anybody's ass. Bats should've been a smear tangling with Darky!

Hahaha you guys were talking about it and i had to look it up. i got this book somewhere and was looking at the remarks that accompanied it. seems jack Kirby was royally pissed and called Byrne a *****e bag about it. He modeled aspects of Barda after his wife and Byrne put her doing a porno! My boy Kirby was not happy about it! Hahahahahaaha Damn! i never knew that! Thats freaking wrong!

 

[Anubis]

Well, Byrne is a colossal *****e.

 

[Spike_x1]

Classy, Byrne.

Still, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I recall Superman and Barda were interrupted and subsequently un-brainwashed before they could do the horizontal tango together. So no sex tape. Yet.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

you are correct spike , before the could do the do. Superman snapped outta his trance due to his super moral fortitude!Mannnnnn ! no wonder people think Supes is a boy scout i would've gave Barda some Mega- Rod! -Hahahaha! sorry couldnt resist! i saw a opening and i took it- Hahaha sorry i saw another one!

man! this freaking book had a lot innudeo going on. i never knew before ( who says comics are for kids!)my boy Bryne wrote any " Co- stars with Supes is going to end up looking that desk he just demolished!Daaaammmn DC let him get away with this!?! That's wild!

 

[Mystirious]

They got interrupted making one porno but they did make at least one

Darkseid broke into Mr Miracle's house and showed it to him. Because while Darkseid is a **** even he wants to put a stop to a godawful story where Barda is hypno raped and made to do porn

...

God I hate this comic book

Well, Byrne is a colossal *****e.

It's true he really is

He had Big Barda taffyed and forced to do porn. He's a dbag

 

[DrCosmic]

I'm just here to parrot that I like Darkseid when he's transcendant amongst superheroes. When Superman can go blow for blow with him, and blacken his eye to stop the omega effect or some such, I shake my head.

I think seeing him as a Batman villain is interesting, and hope to see him as a Wonder Woman villain as well.

 

[Anubis]

Whelp, Darksieds gotta go. People to kill, things to do.

Spoiler

KICK ROCKS!

Superman

 

[Spike_x1]

They got interrupted making one porno but they did make at least one

Darkseid broke into Mr Miracle's house and showed it to him. Because while Darkseid is a **** even he wants to put a stop to a godawful story where Barda is hypno raped and made to do porn

Barda did, unfortunately. Superman was only brought into the business after that tape was released and Darkseid showed it to Scott.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Superman is the greatest hero of all time, period. Read All-Star Superman and bask in his glory.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

I... Freaking... LOVE... SUPERMAN!!
He is my #1 DC guy! what can you say about dude. He's great! in a world were its cool to be the dark ass bad boy, chicks dig the car jerky boy, gut people 1st with claws and ask questions later guy.I love that he's is still a boy scout!I will forever ever hate Frank Miller for giving us that "Boy scout" *&^%. The dude aint no boy scout. He could seriously toss anybody into the sun , but has to think every moment about not doing it! people act like being a truly good guy is wrong or something?!? Maann you must be out your mind! Supes Rocks Hard! people are all pissed off cause he got rid of "the American way thing" and put "Universal way" instead. I think its great he did that.that dude is here for everybody not just for Americans, even though he is an American institution! "Oh he's lame" and all that yadda yadda Bull*&^%, but and what do they say when he doesnt join the justice league at times... but you cant have a justice league without Superman!! when i was stupid i wanted to be wolverine, now all i want to be Supes! i will quote what wally said one time about him. "He's the brightest, the best of us! He's what we aspire to be!" Supes is the *G.O.A.T baby!

( *greatest of all time! just ask Muhammad Ali after he fought him!)

 

[Spike_x1]

I love Superman, although I haven't been too fond of what's been done to the mythology in the comics over the last few years (I think the last time I was consistently reading a Supes book on a monthly basis was during the Ruin storyline). I'm desperately hoping that the relaunch will be a good fresh start for him and his corner of the DCU, where I can get back onboard with his books after I fled from them and their story directions a few years ago.

Now I'm going to go reread "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way?"

 

[WompuM]

Superman's great. He'll let you get soda at the fountain even if you only have a water cup.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Superman is #1. His character, his mythology, his icon status, all are unequaled.

I'm in the "Clark is the disguise" fan club. It makes the character a lot more interesting (and fun) when he's pretending to be someone else when he's not using his powers. I like to think that being Clark Kent is how Superman relaxes. I'm not against the other way where Superman is the disguise, because that works, too, just not my preference.

Although I am adamant that his costume is made of his blankets from Krypton. I do not accept any other way about it.

I just got finished writing a 600 word essay on a single frame from Superman: The Movie. College