Stephen King's Epic "The Dark Tower" - Part 1

[NosfeRomas]

Upon closer inspection i understood that isn't the costume itself that bothers me but the colours. I always had a creamy/khaki colour palette in my mind for the Dark Tower as a series and for Roland. If anything in my mind it was a mix between a spaghetti western, Alejandro Jodorowski's El Topo and Dune. Sandy and bizarre, acid western type.

Not really feeling the changes but i'll wait and see. Something seems off though :/

 

[obin_gam]

Don't mind Roland's costume. But still the story they are going for is really bugging me. Why make a sequel story to something most of the audience won't have read?

Because they would not know it is a sequel.
The only people who would know that is those who have read the coda in the last book.

For "ordinary audiences" this is an adaption. For readers, this is the next cycle.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Because they would not know it is a sequel.
The only people who would know that is those who have read the coda in the last book.

For "ordinary audiences" this is an adaption. For readers, this is the next cycle.

Which is where I think the GA will be totally lost, some things of major importance in the books will have to be included and people who haven't read them won't know what's going on.

 

[Victarion]

Red brick, boys. Can'tah Aballah

What events are you referencing, Ave?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Red brick, boys. Can'tah Aballah

What events are you referencing, Ave?

Quite a few

[BLACKOUT]Roland letting Jake die in The Gunslinger, will it even be referenced? Shame if it doesnt in my eyes.

Then is also the lobstrosities and doors on the beach, drawing of Eddie, the creation of Susannah from Odetta/Detta, the rose in New York, the KA Tet buying the lot it's in and fighting the mob off of the book store owner, Father Callahan, Wolves Of The Calla, Mia and Mordred, Lud, Wizard and Glass, and probably more I can't think of off the top of my head.[/BLACKOUT]

I don't see them being able to cover all of this and more in 3 movies and it seems they are skipping a lot of it already.

 

[Victarion]

Quite a few

[BLACKOUT]Roland letting Jake die in The Gunslinger, will it even be referenced? Shame if it doesnt in my eyes.

Then is also the lobstrosities and doors on the beach, drawing of Eddie, the creation of Susannah from Odetta/Detta, the rose in New York, the KA Tet buying the lot it's in and fighting the mob off of the book store owner, Father Callahan, Wolves Of The Calla, Mia and Mordred, Lud, Wizard and Glass, and probably more I can't think of off the top of my head.[/BLACKOUT]

I don't see them being able to cover all of this and more in 3 movies and it seems they are skipping a lot of it already.

I don't see any of that getting a reference here at all. It seems more like they're just going to pull from these things in the same way a CBM director pulls from their source material - less a direct pickup, more taking elements and adapting them.

That said, I'm still hoping we get something like The Shinning - a good movie, but a kinda bad adaption. I will miss the stuff you spoiled though. That strange blend of fantasy and SF is part of what I loved about these books; the other being the characters and the themes of the seventh book.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I don't see any of that getting a reference here at all. It seems more like they're just going to pull from these things in the same way a CBM director pulls from their source material - less a direct pickup, more taking elements and adapting them.

That said, I'm still hoping we get something like The Shinning - a good movie, but a kinda bad adaption. I will miss the stuff you spoiled though. That strange blend of fantasy and SF is part of what I loved about these books; the other being the characters and the themes of the seventh book.

Definitely agree, with this adaptation was hoping to see so many classic DT moments. But it seems we won't for a long, long time now. Seems they going for a PG-13 rating also which will lose the impact of many moments, especially pretty much everything [BLACKOUT]Mordred[/BLACKOUT] does.

 

[Victarion]

Yeah, I think Jake and Tirana will be Roland's ka-tet for this iteration.

 

[obin_gam]

EW is coming out with two articles today. First one is here and has interview with Elba and a scene description http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/14/dark-tower-idris-elba-stephen-king-gunslinger

 

[Lighthouse]

1. The Gunslinger is in Skyrim?
2. I'm starting to seriously freak out that he's not going to have a hat now.

 

[BoredGuy]

anybody else getting the feeling this could be this year's Cowboys Vs Aliens or RIPD??
I certainly hope not, because the story deserves better and the lead actors are insanely talented, but I just don't know about the director or screenwriters, and the pics haven't really set the world on fire either... plus cowboy mashups (see above referenced films) haven't had a great track record at the box office

 

[Rowsdower!]

Hmmm... The article was a decent read and Elba seems to get the Roland character. My worry really is taking the "superhero movie" approach to this. I understand the logic, but I think what the writers and the director are missing here is that superhero movies can afford to be loose adaptations and overall new stories because they tend to center on characters whose origins have been retold multiple times and have had countless encounters with the other characters that feature in the film. But The Dark Tower has ONE story. It hasn't been told and retold 20 different ways by different writers. Even the Marvel comics that came out stuck really close to King's novels, they just shortened some of the more lengthy parts and added some things to flesh out some characters.

I'm not saying this approach can't work, but... I'm worried about it. Especially since it seems to be a mashup of stuff that happened in the first novel and the sixth, I think?

 

[obin_gam]

And here is McC's interview: http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/14/dark-tower-matthew-mcconaughey-the-man-in-black

 

[Victarion]

Only thing I'm concerned about from the Elba interview is, Roland starts off as a stone-cold killer.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Hmmm... The article was a decent read and Elba seems to get the Roland character. My worry really is taking the "superhero movie" approach to this. I understand the logic, but I think what the writers and the director are missing here is that superhero movies can afford to be loose adaptations and overall new stories because they tend to center on characters whose origins have been retold multiple times and have had countless encounters with the other characters that feature in the film. But The Dark Tower has ONE story. It hasn't been told and retold 20 different ways by different writers. Even the Marvel comics that came out stuck really close to King's novels, they just shortened some of the more lengthy parts and added some things to flesh out some characters.

I'm not saying this approach can't work, but... I'm worried about it. Especially since it seems to be a mashup of stuff that happened in the first novel and the sixth, I think?

my anticipation for this movie is really low, never thought I would say that about a DT adaptation.

 

[Victarion]

I'm still excited, but that may be because I've rolled back my expectations after I figured out their approach to the material. My chief concern is Roland. He may not have been that approachable in The Gunslinger, but that's the character that hooked me into King's wild epic.

That scene with Walter looks more like a village set than the interior of the Dixie Pig though. I wonder how they'll do the effects for the Taheen.

 

[Inhuman117]

the Pictures really Hype me so Up that i need To Read The Books Finally but what Should i Pick the 7 Originial Books or The 13 Part Graphic Novels from Marvel ?

 

[Victarion]

Books. Always the books.

 

[LoganGambit87]

Eddie And Susannah Confirmed NOT To Appear in the movie

 

[Octoberist]

Hmmm... The article was a decent read and Elba seems to get the Roland character. My worry really is taking the "superhero movie" approach to this. I understand the logic, but I think what the writers and the director are missing here is that superhero movies can afford to be loose adaptations and overall new stories because they tend to center on characters whose origins have been retold multiple times and have had countless encounters with the other characters that feature in the film. But The Dark Tower has ONE story. It hasn't been told and retold 20 different ways by different writers. Even the Marvel comics that came out stuck really close to King's novels, they just shortened some of the more lengthy parts and added some things to flesh out some characters.

I'm not saying this approach can't work, but... I'm worried about it. Especially since it seems to be a mashup of stuff that happened in the first novel and the sixth, I think?

Well the article too point out that this is a [BLACKOUT]continuation of the books, a sequel of sorts, with Roland having the horn with him. [/BLACKOUT]So the journey can be allowed to be different.

 

[Octoberist]

Eddie And Susannah Confirmed NOT To Appear in the movie

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/14/dark-tower-movie-wont-feature-eddie-susannah

 

[Octoberist]

anybody else getting the feeling this could be this year's Cowboys Vs Aliens or RIPD??
I certainly hope not, because the story deserves better and the lead actors are insanely talented, but I just don't know about the director or screenwriters, and the pics haven't really set the world on fire either... plus cowboy mashups (see above referenced films) haven't had a great track record at the box office

No, because The Dark Tower has a big fan base. The curiosity factor will be there opening weekend, good or bad. Also, the budge is 60 million.

 

[Victarion]

They need to market the hell out of Elba and McConaughay.

I want my damn set pics.

edit - that background Elba's against may be the movie's version, or homage to, either the Crimson King's castle or Castle Discordia.

 

[Octoberist]

Roland doesn't have to be American right? Elba could use his own accent no?

 

[Guts]