Still like this movie.

[Dragon]

It´s still to me one of the best superhero movies. To me the years have only proven how hard it is to achieve what Sam did in terms of doing both a comics adaptation that´s true to the core of the character and an enjoyable and soulful movie at the same time. So far, to me, only Chris Nolan and Bryan Singer with the X-Men movies did a comparable job to what Raimi did with the Spider-Man movies.

The thing is, it isn't that hard to do. With the wealth of strong source material Marvel has generated, making these movies should be a cinch. It's just that there are alot of producers, writers and directors that don't know their asses from their elbows, and they produce crap. I mean really- how hard would it be to make a great Hulk or Daredevil movie- even a Punisher movie if you thought it through for about 5 minutes?

 

[ultimatefan]

The thing is, it isn't that hard to do. With the wealth of strong source material Marvel has generated, making these movies should be a cinch. It's just that there are alot of producers, writers and directors that don't know their asses from their elbows, and they produce crap. I mean really- how hard would it be to make a great Hulk or Daredevil movie- even a Punisher movie if you thought it through for about 5 minutes?

Okay, maybe in THEORY it´s not that hard, but in practice, it is.

 

[Chris Wallace]

The failures are the result of short-sightedness, nothing more. Sometimes the studios are more interested in titillating & making a quick buck than in making art that will stand the test of time.
But then, latley, so are the publishers.

 

[Arcturus]

oh yeah, i still love the first spider-man movie.

 

[Dragon]

Okay, maybe in THEORY it´s not that hard, but in practice, it is.

No, it's really that easy. All the hard work has been done over the last 40 years. All these filmmakers have to do is pick and choose, and structure a plot.

 

[ultimatefan]

No, it's really that easy. All the hard work has been done over the last 40 years. All these filmmakers have to do is pick and choose, and structure a plot.

In THEORY. In practice, you have studio interference, investors, people who´re hired to do the job and don´t really know, understand or truly appreciate the material, etc. And there´s the fact that, exactly because these things have been around for 40 years or more, people appreciate different elements and periods more than others, so you´re forced to make choices, cut stuff off, mix, sum up, update, etc, which will please some and irritate others.

 

[Dragon]

In THEORY. In practice, you have studio interference, investors, people who´re hired to do the job and don´t really know, understand or truly appreciate the material, etc. And there´s the fact that, exactly because these things have been around for 40 years or more, people appreciate different elements and periods more than others, so you´re forced to make choices, cut stuff off, mix, sum up, update, etc, which will please some and irritate others.

What you're saying would hold more water if these movies were for the most part coming out well. But they aren't.

The fact that this films are made by committee and the committee tends to be of monkeys and are thus screwed doesn't change the fact that making these movies should be cinch. If anything, it merely points out the problem.

 

[ultimatefan]

What you're saying would hold more water if these movies were for the most part coming out well. But they aren't.

The fact that this films are made by committee and the committee tends to be of monkeys and are thus screwed doesn't change the fact that making these movies should be cinch. If anything, it merely points out the problem.

Huh, you´re saying exactly what Í am saying, which is exactly why most of these movies don´t come out well. The sad truth about the world is what should be and what is rarely are the same thing.

 

[jaydawg]

I still love the movie. In fact its my favorite comic book movie ever.... and I've never admit in public that its actually my favorite movie of all-time.

 

[GrtRsponsibilty]

Same here the best! only comic movies that come close are bb and the X-men

 

[Nebins]

I still love this movie. My only problem with the whole movie is when Flash goes to punch Peter and he does like a tripple flip and is suspended in the air for a second. That part always bothered me.

 

[pointman]

No, it's really that easy. All the hard work has been done over the last 40 years. All these filmmakers have to do is pick and choose, and structure a plot.

I completely agree and thats something I never really understood with the animated shows post 90s TAS. With al the source material available, why bother trying to create new characters, I mean Talon??? Come on!
However, with regards to the movies, sm3 is loking great but the 1st 2, ugh! overall mediocre, boring and has extremely liitle to no replay value.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I watched it 2 days ago & enjoyed it just as much as I did 4 years ago.

 

[CConn]

My appreciation for it has only grown with time.

 

[spider greg]

I still love the movie. Though I liked it, I was a little disapointed in SM 2, but mostly because I probably expected too much.

 

[Dark Phantom]

Hands down, the best comic book movie of all time. I don't care what others say, this film started it all and is number 1 on my top 10 list.

The movie is so epic, so character driven, with classic elements of drama taken right from the comics.

It's a classic.

 

[Kurt Wagner]

Hands down, the best comic book movie of all time. I don't care what others say, this film started it all and is number 1 on my top 10 list.

The movie is so epic, so character driven, with classic elements of drama taken right from the comics.

It's a classic.

really? I thought Superman: The Movie started it all.

Character driven? yeah right. It might have some more depth of character than most other action movies, but it's still a plot driven movie, and very far from a character driven movie. Spider-Man is in the exact same class as Die Hard. Rain Man is an example of character driven movie... Spider-Man is definitely not.

 

[Geko]

really? I thought Superman: The Movie started it all.

Character driven? yeah right. It might have some more depth of character than most other action movies, but it's still a plot driven movie, and very far from a character driven movie. Spider-Man is in the exact same class as Die Hard. Rain Man is an example of character driven movie... Spider-Man is definitely not.

Superman: The Movie did start it all.
Then Batman and Robin ended it all
X-Men and Spider-Man Re-Started it all.
Now. What are your trying to do here? Are you trying to upset people? Spider-Man is in the same class as Die Hard?? You know that's not true. Now I love Die Hard, but it's just action. Willis' character doesn't change, doesn't have a character arc.
But Spider-Man, while it isn't a character driven film in the same class or category as Rain Man is still a character driven film.
Peter Parker goes on a personal journey.
First power changes him,
Then tragedy changes him,
Finally responsibility changes him.
And while I love the action and the web-slinging, it's Peter's journey that makes Spider-Man a wonderful film

 

[Kurt Wagner]

okay, maybe Spider-Man is not in the same class as Die Hard, but both are still plot driven, meaning that the focus of the movie rests primarily on the character's goals and actions. So in Spider-Man, his goal and actions is to defeat the Green Goblin and get MJ as his girlfriend, right?

The whole plot-driven and character-driven movies are just categories describing the structure of stories and are not all inclusive. I don't deny that Spider-Man has some substance in the characters, but in the end, it's still a plot oriented movie. I personally wouldn't think of any action movie as character driven, despite how deep the character is portrayed.

 

[Geko]

Well yes you're right, the film is very much plot driven.
I think we agree it's a bit of both.
The reason I think some (including myself) see it as a character piece, is because at it's core it's a coming of age tale.
I see it in the same light (here comes another movie comparison) as The Fellowship of The Ring, where the plot -- getting the ring to Mordor -- is secondary to Frodo becoming a man and truely embracing the responsibility of his his role as bearer of the Ring.
In Spider-Man, what makes it interesting to me, is his journey from "She's all I've ever wanted" to "I love her, and for that reason I can't be with her"

 

[Kurt Wagner]

you have some valid points Geko. I think movies like Spider-Man and Lord of the Rings are probably in the middle somewhere. There's probably different degrees in how much the audience sees in the character and plot in order for them to classify one or the other as the driving force of the story.
But I see what you're saying, just don't agree with it though.

 

[TwilightPro101]

Still do like this movie.

 

[BHD]

i really didn't like the bonesaw scene. Peter beat him by a series of kicks to the face, all with the same angle. I just think it was poorly done.

 

[Mr Jide]

Hands down, the best comic book movie of all time. I don't care what others say, this film started it all and is number 1 on my top 10 list.

The movie is so epic, so character driven, with classic elements of drama taken right from the comics.

It's a classic.

I completely disagree. The drama was nothing like the drama in the comics and thats one of the reasons why this movie s so mediocre. The drama was too sappy and pathetic. There's usually nothing pathetic about the drama in the comics but there was nothing that intriguing here. However, sm3 looks great and the drama involved looks more inline with the comics but I'm still reservng judgement until I see the movie as opposed to going crazy with excitement soley bassed on the tailers.

 

[Mr Jide]

i really didn't like the bonesaw scene. Peter beat him by a series of kicks to the face, all with the same angle. I just think it was poorly done.

Absoloutly! The bonesaw fight was absoloute rubbish. A complete waste of a perfect oportunity to see pete make use of his newly acquired powers.