Revenge of the Fallen Super Bowl Spot!

[chesslover]

By far the best part of that short trailer....

Ravage is total badass.

Ravage is a cutie patootie t:

 

[DACrowe]

Eh. Looks completely generic and exactly like the last one. Adding a unicycle does not a fresh movie make.

Mind you, I disliked the first, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

 

[greenlantern248]

That spot was so good, I was watching it with a bunch of friends, and my one friend I thought he really had to change his pants after that.

Ravage looked freakin sweet.

You know what I wish that Bay did, have Soundwave on all his minions (including Frenzy) would fight Blaster and his buddies like they did in the 80's movie

 

[Hunter Rider]

Eh. Looks completely generic and exactly like the last one. Adding a unicycle does not a fresh movie make.

Mind you, I disliked the first, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

 

[November Rain]

Close, but not exactly.

The first Japanese Sentai "ranger" series started in 1975, which was also the same year that the first "realistic" transforming giant robot design, "Brave Raideen" appeared. So they were around at roughly the same time.

However, there was an "unrealistic" transforming robot hero named Ambassdor Magma who had been around on Japanese TV and comics since 1966. He doesn't count as a "real" transformer because his transformation from robot to rocket ship made no mechanical sense and was more like magic than mechanical design, but he did come first.

Hmmm maybe I should make a thread about the history of transforming robots...

if you make it, i'll read it

 

[Avengers-Report]

I am a little worried about this movie. The trailer was cool because it was new and interesting, cool to see things like that. However, those stupid looking constructocons will get old fast in the movie. I hope they have like no screen time before they turn into Devastator because if they do I have a feeling this movie is going to be horrible.

I love Transformers, I want this movie to succeed but I hope you all see my point.

 

[Bayless]

i do.
i have a bad fear this movie will go TOO far excessive. so hopefully that scene of him driving down the street is to meet up with the rest of him.

 

[Chris B]

Overall, I thought this was pretty awesome myself. Full of highlights for me.

 

[dominikat]

Ok.Making Devestator freaking huge is really not good.Reasons:If he is ZOMGWTF big he will be either too hard to kill which will make him may be the main villian or he will be defeated by a very stupid or easy way which will also be kinda stupid.There must be balance here.They cant make him to knock down skyscrappers with punches and than after a while to die just like that.He will either be The main bad guy or be just silly big and pwned!

 

[Bishop49]

What vehicle do the giant wheels come from. This one is obvious.

Anyone fill me in on what the others are?

I think he's part of devestator because if you look no big wheels on him but if you look at long haul he does have bigger wheels even though they still wouldnt be that freakin big. The allspark must have had a overload on power and just made a freak of nature. Beats me though?

 

[sandmjuggalos]

I think the treads transform into the wheels. I mean...it IS a CONSTRUCT-icon.

 

[CorpusBlack]

It pains me to see a trailer this good

 

[Daredevil_2003]

That...was ****ing epic.

 

[.Rorschach.]

I cannot wait to see Devastator,and hopefully Unicron at the end to set up a Third movie.

 

[sandmjuggalos]

I will personally kiss Bay's ass if those treads do not transform into the big wheels we see in the trailer. Mark my words.....

 

[batmanbeginsboy]

ok so i just notices that the three bots chasin the r8 have to be arcee.check it out

the first one if u look closely it doesnt have legs just a wheel.

 

[GoblinWhirlwind]

What vehicle do the giant wheels come from. This one is obvious.

Anyone fill me in on what the others are?

I didn't realize that the tractor was so huge.. I thought it was just a regular size tractor.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Well maybe something like this...



Any design would be better than that travesty of a wheelie robot.

The wise one has spoken. t:

Alright, I'll say it: it's lame, and so was most of G1. You have to understand I love G1, I love the non-possibility of the figures, Carnage in C-Minor, "The Car Wash of Doom", I love 2D transformations that don't work as toys, I love the fact that the show abandoned better Japanese animation models...and I'm NOT being sarcastic. There is nothing better than being sick and watching Transformers episodes run on loop -- but hey, I'm doped up on medicine and halfway hallucinating.

You have to understand something; Transformers is BAD FICTION. It's a 22-minute toy commercial complete with inconsistent character use and 2D working models. Bayformers is actually a cut above anything that cartoon ever was -- or perhaps you like watching Optimus Prime play basketball and Megatron get drunk. The designs are way more inspired. The idea of thousands of interlocking parts, creating a robot that actually moves fluidly, that is amazing. What animators for the original cartoon did was cheat -- they constantly used bendy metal and poor animation models to make the robots look like they could move. The faces were basic faceplates with generic faces drawn on them. Hey look! this one has a crest, this one has a horn, this one has a visor....OOOOOoooohhhh so creative.

You have to understand though, G1 does not have a design asethetic, and it's wrong to impose one. Remember Whirl, of course you don't, he had a cam-corder for a head. Or how about Ratchet and Ironhide, sure you watched the show but I bet you never knew the toys looked like this:

I should know, I was super-excited when I bought him. Much needed addition.

G1 is a dead franchise kept limping along in comics, but Transformers is so much more than that. Beast Machines and Transtech featured designs far weirder than anything Bay's produced. Bay is not venturing into new territory, he is embracing change and trying to show all that is Transformers not simply one of two elements.

It's unfair to think Transformers is synonomous with some long dead franchise from back in the 1980s, it is so much more than that, a composit of 25 series, all with different design aesethetics, storylines and mythos. To say that this one show is to be adhered while all the other history is to be written off is wrong. Armada was it's greatest seller, Beast Wars had better ratings and Animated is better written than the original. I know it's hard to swallow, but the only show Transformers ever did that got cancelled was G1.

 

[Alex The Great]

This Movie is going to be Sex on a stick, i tell ya

 

[CorpusBlack]

ok so i just notices that the three bots chasin the r8 have to be arcee.check it out

the first one if u look closely it doesnt have legs just a wheel.

They HAVE to be Arcee? Uh no. They look more like Soundwaves minions to me.

 

[The Lizard]

It's unfair to think Transformers is synonomous with some long dead franchise from back in the 1980s, it is so much more than that, a composit of 25 series, all with different design aesethetics, storylines and mythos. To say that this one show is to be adhered while all the other history is to be written off is wrong. Armada was it's greatest seller, Beast Wars had better ratings and Animated is better written than the original. I know it's hard to swallow, but the only show Transformers ever did that got cancelled was G1.

I mostly agree with much of what you're saying, although I still think there is a happy medium that Bay and the new TF designers have missed the mark on in several instances.

The Transformers are highly advanced alien robots made of alien metal and alien tech, so obviously their movie transformations can be detailed in particular ways that the toys and cartoon couldn't do. Even the toys of the new 2007 Transformers can't really capture the way they look or transform onscreen, partially due to some CGI "cheating", but also due to the amazing detail in the CGI, which is honestly very impressive.

That being said, there are a few elements in the designs of the "Bayformers" that could have been handled better, not only to perhaps slightly (just slightly more) capture the G1 feel, but also make the action scenes easier to follow. There's just too many insectoid, silvery, spiky robots crashing together in the 2007 movie, and it gets muddled at certain points due to these design issues.

However, I do agree that the 1980's Devastator design would NOT work onscreen in a live action movie. If for no other reason than that G1 Devastator cheated and had extra parts that appeared out of nowhere to make the combination work (the hands, hips and upper legs most notably). It is fun to look at "realistic" art versions of the G1 toys and cartoon characters, but they don't really fit the story requirement of advanced alien technology that provides a full range of movement for the robot modes.

I'll add another 'however" to that though, and say that the giant unicycle bot form does deviate too far from the traditional humanoid TF robots. And the design kinda looks goofy regardless.

 

[DorkyFresh]

i honestly love devastator's design. he's destruction incarnate on wheels and treadmills.

 

[Avengers-Report]

My friend is claiming that the robot on the freeway scene at the end of the movie is devastator. This is on wikipedia.

Is this true? I was under the oppression that Michael Bay made a quote saying that he was one of the seven transformers that create Devastator?

 

[S.A.A.D.]

^Arghhhhh,it isn't Devastator,it's just one out of 7 Constructicons that turn into him!!

 

[AnorexicBatman]

It is false... wikipedia can be edited by anyone...
The wheel bbot aka SteamShovel is one of the SIX (6)!!!! contructicons...