Superman (2025) Box Office Thread

[kguillou]

All right I’ll ask this, is this possible it wont reach 500M worldwide? I know we really have to wait until weekend 2 but international BO is concerning me and F4 is coming in two weeks. NA box office is going to be carrying this movie.

I’m sure Zaslav will greenlight a sequel either way but then again i dont trust that mf as far as i can throw him.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

All right I’ll ask this, is this possible it wont reach 500M worldwide? I know we really have to wait until weekend 2 but international BO is concerning me and F4 is coming in two weeks. NA box office is going to be carrying this movie.

I’m sure Zaslav will greenlight a sequel either way but then again i dont trust that mf as far as i can throw him.

Anything is possible. But there is no real chance it misses 500m. It would near an insane drop everywhere, including domestically. No signs of that.

 

[Lily Adler]

All right I’ll ask this, is this possible it wont reach 500M worldwide? I know we really have to wait until weekend 2 but international BO is concerning me and F4 is coming in two weeks. NA box office is going to be carrying this movie.

I’m sure Zaslav will greenlight a sequel either way but then again i dont trust that mf as far as i can throw him.

Meaning no black... only certain Jews are okay.

 

[Moncton]

One thing to be aware of, WB is being split into two next year and one or both parts may be sold or merged into another company. So any words you hear from execs about how whatever the box office winds up being is good for them and Gunn's 10 year DC plan may be PR for potential buyers to sell the strength of DC.

 

[Karelia]

Cool to see the numbers were higher than expected. Hopefully that trend continues!

 

[donuts]

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Cool to see the numbers were higher than expected. Hopefully that trend continues!

Bad timing.

 

[donuts]

Bad timing.

Definitely. Wasn't responding to @Karelia

 

[DCDAVE]

Why are folks comparing MOS box office to Gunn’s Superman. It is an apples to oranges comparison. The question is would a MOS 2 with Cavill have worked. By the reaction to Black Adam it was unlikely.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Why are folks comparing MOS box office to Gunn’s Superman. It is an apples to oranges comparison. The question is would a MOS 2 with Cavill have worked. By the reaction to Black Adam it was unlikely.

Because people are constantly comparing these movies on both sides in every way possible. A big part of that being it's the previous Superman movie. Same happened with MoS and Returns.

 

[Tra-El]

Why are folks comparing MOS box office to Gunn’s Superman. It is an apples to oranges comparison. The question is would a MOS 2 with Cavill have worked. By the reaction to Black Adam it was unlikely.

It's all apples and oranges at this stage of the game. Not only is this world drastically different than it was 12 years ago, but so is the superhero genre as a whole. It's really hard to pinpoint. As for Black Adam, that's also all speculative as well with no real hard data to go by with how a Henry Cavill-led Superman film would have done. A two second cameo that was added at the 11th hour by makeshift studio representatives during a regime change isn't a fair assessment. Films are judged by roll-outs and marketing. That was already three years ago and it's a straw man subject that can't go beyond bias interpretation. Superman is here, so we can only go by the brand new happenings that are indeed real and factual with the current day.

 

[flickchick85]

All right I’ll ask this, is this possible it wont reach 500M worldwide? I know we really have to wait until weekend 2 but international BO is concerning me and F4 is coming in two weeks. NA box office is going to be carrying this movie.

I’m sure Zaslav will greenlight a sequel either way but then again i dont trust that mf as far as i can throw him.

Only if it totally collapses domestically. Like, as badly as MoS. Otherwise, it should hit at least $300mil domestic and $200mil overseas. I think it’s more likely to get around $330m+ domestic, but this coming weekend should give us a better idea of that.

 

[Ita-KalEl]

All right I’ll ask this, is this possible it wont reach 500M worldwide? I know we really have to wait until weekend 2 but international BO is concerning me and F4 is coming in two weeks. NA box office is going to be carrying this movie.

I’m sure Zaslav will greenlight a sequel either way but then again i dont trust that mf as far as i can throw him.

Impossible.

 

[Tra-El]

All right I’ll ask this, is this possible it wont reach 500M worldwide? I know we really have to wait until weekend 2 but international BO is concerning me and F4 is coming in two weeks. NA box office is going to be carrying this movie.

I’m sure Zaslav will greenlight a sequel either way but then again i dont trust that mf as far as i can throw him.

I think it all but fair to say that Superman will make around $520-550 mil WW. If it can slow crawl to $600 mil, that would be ideal (being my most positive glass half full-type self). It just depends on the stabilization of the summer after the first two weeks of F4 and its performance/reception.

 

[Lily Adler]

One thing to be aware of, WB is being split into two next year and one or both parts may be sold or merged into another company. So any words you hear from execs about how whatever the box office winds up being is good for them and Gunn's 10 year DC plan may be PR for potential buyers to sell the strength of DC.

 

[Lily Adler]

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Pretty much.

 

[MAN O STEEL]

You guys are falling into the same trap as when Superman Returns and MOS came out. Its like history repeating itself. When Superman Returns came out and all was said and done, between the mediocre reviews and box office you all said, nah it's good enough, it'll get a sequel and we'll get bigger numbers and reception there. Singers gonna go all Wrath of Khan. Well it didn't happen and they rebooted. Then Man Of Steel came out and again copium set in. It didn't make what people thought it would and had mixed reception and again it was, nah it's doing good enough to get a sequel and that's where the real money and acclaim will come in. Then we got that BVS crap that scrapped Superman for the most part and made it a Batman movie. Again, never saw a sequel. Now here we are with Superman 25 and you're all saying the same things. Ohh the climates different now, it's this, it's that. As I said before, we've had many chances and no matter the climate or story told or type of Superman put on screen, we have to just admit that Superman is not a thing for people anymore, and hasn't been for a long time. People just aren't interested in a character they see as simplistic and not cool. I've come to this realisation now and I'm ok with it. It had its time and it's passed.

 

[Primal Slayer]

You guys are falling into the same trap as when Superman Returns and MOS came out. Its like history repeating itself. When Superman Returns came out and all was said and done, between the mediocre reviews and box office you all said, nah it's good enough, it'll get a sequel and we'll get bigger numbers and reception there. Singers gonna go all Wrath of Khan. Well it didn't happen and they rebooted. Then Man Of Steel came out and again copium set in. It didn't make what people thought it would and had mixed reception and again it was, nah it's doing good enough to get a sequel and that's where the real money and acclaim will come in. Then we got that BVS crap that scrapped Superman for the most part and made it a Batman movie. Again, never saw a sequel. Now here we are with Superman 25 and you're all saying the same things. Ohh the climates different now, it's this, it's that. As I said before, we've had many chances and no matter the climate or story told or type of Superman put on screen, we have to just admit that Superman is not a thing for people anymore, and hasn't been for a long time. People just aren't interested in a character they see as simplistic and not cool. I've come to this realisation now and I'm ok with it. It had its time and it's passed.

Just not a thing for the big screen. Though who knows how a sequel could do.

 

[Lily Adler]

You guys are falling into the same trap as when Superman Returns and MOS came out. Its like history repeating itself. When Superman Returns came out and all was said and done, between the mediocre reviews and box office you all said, nah it's good enough, it'll get a sequel and we'll get bigger numbers and reception there. Singers gonna go all Wrath of Khan. Well it didn't happen and they rebooted. Then Man Of Steel came out and again copium set in. It didn't make what people thought it would and had mixed reception and again it was, nah it's doing good enough to get a sequel and that's where the real money and acclaim will come in. Then we got that BVS crap that scrapped Superman for the most part and made it a Batman movie. Again, never saw a sequel. Now here we are with Superman 25 and you're all saying the same things. Ohh the climates different now, it's this, it's that. As I said before, we've had many chances and no matter the climate or story told or type of Superman put on screen, we have to just admit that Superman is not a thing for people anymore, and hasn't been for a long time. People just aren't interested in a character they see as simplistic and not cool. I've come to this realisation now and I'm ok with it. It had its time and it's passed.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Pretty much.

I don't agree with Point 4. Superman Returns wasn't a giant success, but it was nowhere near as despised as most recent DC films. The brand was nowhere near as damaged going into MoS as it was going into this film.

 

[Lily Adler]

I don't agree with Point 4. Superman Returns wasn't a giant success, but it was nowhere near as despised as most recent DC films. The brand was nowhere near as damaged going into MoS as it was going into this film.

DC's brand was near an all time high with TDKT. Jonah Hex and GL aside.

They were lucky to get some good movies out of the DCEU.

 

[Moncton]

You guys are falling into the same trap as when Superman Returns and MOS came out. Its like history repeating itself. When Superman Returns came out and all was said and done, between the mediocre reviews and box office you all said, nah it's good enough, it'll get a sequel and we'll get bigger numbers and reception there. Singers gonna go all Wrath of Khan. Well it didn't happen and they rebooted. Then Man Of Steel came out and again copium set in. It didn't make what people thought it would and had mixed reception and again it was, nah it's doing good enough to get a sequel and that's where the real money and acclaim will come in. Then we got that BVS crap that scrapped Superman for the most part and made it a Batman movie. Again, never saw a sequel. Now here we are with Superman 25 and you're all saying the same things. Ohh the climates different now, it's this, it's that. As I said before, we've had many chances and no matter the climate or story told or type of Superman put on screen, we have to just admit that Superman is not a thing for people anymore, and hasn't been for a long time. People just aren't interested in a character they see as simplistic and not cool. I've come to this realisation now and I'm ok with it. It had its time and it's passed.

There is some truth to this, there hasn't been a big success for the character in like 45 years. Even the superlative Superman and Lois got average viewership.Arguably, the biggest success in recent history was Smallville and he wasn't even Superman in it.

 

[TheScarecrow]

I'm sorry - but that SnyderCut reddit post is absolute rubbish.

It's performing better than Man of Steel in LATAM and other territories. Worse in mainland Europe and Asia. It's not being outperformed by 70-50% by MOS overseas - unless MOS made $200m international in its opening weekend.

What is it about this movie that's making everyone go insane and ignoring facts and basic box office maths? "What if the ass falls out internationally?" "What if it just stops making money?" Next we'll be "What if separate natural disasters destroy all 10,000 separate prints of the film and it can't screen and make its budget back".

Apart from a relatively weak international box office, anyone who knows anything will tell you the box office signs are pretty good for this film so far. It won't make a billion, it might make over $700m.

At this point, it's on track to become the second or third best performing movie domestically so far this year.

Get a bloody grip, people. Stop listening to SnyderCult BS.

FYI - Black Adam made $75.9m for its OS opening weekend. Superman probably made $100m once the revision upwards occurs. That's 25% more. It made nearly double what Black Adam made domestically.

Ignoring the positive signs for this movie's WoM and all sensible logic, if Superman performs the same as Black Adam (ie, bad) it will end up with a domestic total of $336.4m and an overseas total of $281.4m.

The floor of this film is $617.8m, IMO.

Please calm down and think logically, people. Stop listening to the SnyderCult.

There is some truth to this, there hasn't been a big success for the character in like 45 years. Even the superlative Superman and Lois got average viewership.Arguably, the biggest success in recent history was Smallville and he wasn't even Superman in it.

(1) Superman Returns had an astronomical budget. It was never, ever going to be a financial success. It was the most expensive movie ever made in 2006 and had like double the budget of Batman Begins.

(2) Man of Steel was a success and would have had a sequel, but WB jumped the gun and wanted to pivot to Marvel level success, ignoring that MoS was actually a massive winner compared to all Phase 1 Marvel movies other than The Avengers.

(3) Superman has a relatively modest budget for 2025. Box office is softer domestically and increasingly softer internationally for American films. How often do American films make a billion worldwide nowadays? Only 3 films last year. None this year. The market is just different.

Superman is a huge hit for 2025. Studios just need to get their budgets in check.

Irrespective, Man of Steel had like a 68% drop for its second weekend. If Superman truly only drops 50% as WB is predicting, it will leave MoS in the dust.

 

[Moncton]

I'm sorry - but that SnyderCut reddit post is absolute rubbish.

It's performing better than Man of Steel in LATAM and other territories. Worse in mainland Europe and Asia. It's not being outperformed by 70-50% by MOS overseas - unless MOS made $200m international in its opening weekend.

What is it about this movie that's making everyone go insane and ignoring facts and basic box office maths? "What if the ass falls out internationally?" "What if it just stops making money?" Next we'll be "What if separate natural disasters destroy all 10,000 separate prints of the film and it can't screen and make its budget back".

Apart from a relatively weak international box office, anyone who knows anything will tell you the box office signs are pretty good for this film so far. It won't make a billion, it might make over $700m.

At this point, it's on track to become the second or third best performing movie domestically so far this year.

Get a bloody grip, people. Stop listening to SnyderCult BS.

FYI - Black Adam made $75.9m for its OS opening weekend. Superman probably made $100m once the revision upwards occurs. That's 25% more. It made nearly double what Black Adam made domestically.

Ignoring the positive signs for this movie's WoM and all sensible logic, if Superman performs the same as Black Adam (ie, bad) it will end up with a domestic total of $336.4m and an overseas total of $281.4m.

The floor of this film is $617.8m, IMO.

Please calm down and think logically, people. Stop listening to the SnyderCult.



(1) Superman Returns had an astronomical budget. It was never, ever going to be a financial success. It was the most expensive movie ever made in 2006 and had like double the budget of Batman Begins.

(2) Man of Steel was a success and would have had a sequel, but WB jumped the gun and wanted to pivot to Marvel level success, ignoring that MoS was actually a massive winner compared to all Phase 1 Marvel movies other than The Avengers.

(3) Superman has a relatively modest budget for 2025. Box office is softer domestically and increasingly softer internationally for American films. How often do American films make a billion worldwide nowadays? Only 3 films last year. None this year. The market is just different.

Superman is a huge hit for 2025. Studios just need to get their budgets in check.

Irrespective, Man of Steel had like a 68% drop for its second weekend. If Superman truly only drops 50% as WB is predicting, it will leave MoS in the dust.

Not sure how you are coming up with these numbers , but to get to $700 million it would have to be leggier than both The Batman and Homecoming, that's very unlikely. $600 million is looking like the ceiling, not the floor.

 

[TheScarecrow]

Not sure how you are coming up with these numbers , but to get to $700 million it would have to be leggier than both The Batman and Homecoming, that's very unlikely. $600 million is looking like the ceiling, not the floor.

The numbers in those post were based on the Black Adam comparison.

Here is my actual analysis:

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Jul 14, 2025

I don't think this is a Batman Begins situation. The cinemascore is A- , very good but not great and the same as MOS, and many of the positive critical reviews are 3.5/5 kind of reviews. I know the CBM situation is not great, but not even hitting 100 million total overseas is pretty bad. I am not sure that this actually did all that much to revitalize the DC brand .

I think this is very reactionary and indicative of people being spooked by the Snyder Bros and not paying attention to the actual numbers. It is a fact that the international numbers are soft. A 56/44 dom/int split is...

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I think the indicators are there for it to hold better than The Batman and slightly better than Spider-man domestically, given the lack of competition. I see Superman's final domestic multiplier being 3.something.

I remain unconvinced about the threat of Fantastic Four given the franchise's history, Marvel's current performance and the fact it is a period piece.