Superman (2025) Box Office Thread

[Moncton]

But you also have to increase the budget for inflation. Not like that money doesn't exist or becomes profit. That's why Budget/Spending vs BO is best way to look for success. Not the inflation. The first Superman in 78 cost was 55 mil by estimates i just lookied up in 70s money. That would be close to 300 mil now. No BO eras can be compared like for like

Sure, but inflation gives us an idea of tickets sold, which is valid when comparing similar budgeted films or the same character.

 

[DarkKnight88]

It’s all fun. A decade ago is a little more fair. But yeah, when you go too far back to the 70s it doesn’t really work in an apples to apples way. I mean, people didn’t own movies at home the way now, no streaming, no real pirating. Many more distractions now etc.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Sure, but inflation gives us an idea of tickets sold, which is valid when comparing similar budgeted films or the same character.

But tickets sold is also something that isn't a 1:1. The movie going landscape of 2025 and 2013 are vastly different. Man of Steel and 2013 movies as a whole didn't have to compete with streaming services and 30-45 release windows on VOD and a dying physical media market etc. Or even just changing viewing habits of the populace

That's not even to factor in higher ticket prices mean less people willing to go. So Man of Steel doesn't sell as many tickets at the higher price point. People on the fringes of interest would pass the higher ticket prices are.

 

[Moncton]

But tickets sold is also something that isn't a 1:1. The movie going landscape of 2025 and 2013 are vastly different. Man of Steel and 2013 movies as a whole didn't have to compete with streaming services and 30-45 release windows on VOD and a dying physical media market etc. Or even just changing viewing habits of the populace

That's not even to factor in higher ticket prices mean less people willing to go. So Man of Steel doesn't sell as many tickets at the higher price point. People on the fringes of interest would pass the higher ticket prices are.

Nothing is ever 1:1 when comparing , but you could also use the lower ticket prices argument for Superman 78 then. And yes things like streaming are all valid, but you also have social media which is much bigger now and it's much easier to get people to watch your promotion of a film. I think we kind of downplay the success of MOS because we're looking at it through the Snyderverse era as a whole and especially with B v S. The real advantage that MOS had though was that the overseas market was much more into CBM'S, that cannot de denied.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Nothing is ever 1:1 when comparing , but you could also use the lower ticket prices argument for Superman 78 then. And yes things like streaming are all valid, but you also have social media which is much bigger now and it's much easier to get people to watch your promotion of a film. I think we kind of downplay the success of MOS because we're looking at it through the Snyderverse era as a whole and especially with B v S. The real advantage that MOS had though was that the overseas market was much more into CBM'S, that cannot de denied.

Hence my point, viewing habits are just different and the movie economy is different. That's why really, the only thing that's a consistent entity is cost vs gross. Regardless of movie landscape, how much something cost to make vs how much money it made is the same. The only difference is scale as budgets increase. But the concept doesn't change

 

[Moncton]

Hence my point, viewing habits are just different and the movie economy is different. That's why really, the only thing that's a consistent entity is cost vs gross. Regardless of movie landscape, how much something cost to make vs how much money it made is the same. The only difference is scale as budgets increase. But the concept doesn't change

I generally prefer tickets sold as a metric. There is so much creative accounting and sometimes misinformation about cost that it's hard to get an exact figure.

 

[Sithborg]

Sure, but inflation gives us an idea of tickets sold, which is valid when comparing similar budgeted films or the same character.

Things start to get tricky when you start getting into the depth of numbers like that. I'm sure you could do some interesting research into the correlation of the explosion of the foreign box office with the weakening of the dollar post 2008 crash. If you start with being more exact, why should you stop?

Also, reported budget does have value. Sure, most of the time its a lie. But, it does provide a public show of expectations for a movie.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I generally prefer tickets sold as a metric. There is so much creative accounting and sometimes misinformation about cost that it's hard to get an exact figure.

100% that number is always fake, but it gives you a baseline to work with

 

[Superark]

Just watched F4 and I liked it, but I can confidently say that Superman will be the top grossing superhero movie of the summer.

 

[The Guard]

I’m sorry if this comes off rude, but I’ve observed Snyder Bros for a decade now act as if that four-minute fight scene somehow makes up for the other two and half hours of bull**** and mediocrity in that movie. And it is literally the ONLY good fight scene in the entire movie. The Supes/Bats fight is just two idiots slamming junk into each other under a waterfall. The Doomsday fight feels like a cartoon. And the fight choreography in the “Knjghtmare” sequence looks like something out of Dolemite. Snyder’s action sequences in MoS were too long and overly destructive but at least they were watchable. BvS looked like dingy trash from start to finish.

There was a waterfall?

What falls...is fallen...

Snyder, you genius.

 

[donuts]

Italy?

Italy!

TUE July 29th

3. Superman | €72,473 | Tot. €4,707,425

We're outgrossing MOS' €4,721,239 today.

€5M by the end of the week might be doable.

It's going to be interesting to see where The Naked Run reboot will fit in all this. Debuts today.

 

[Boom]

There was a waterfall?

What falls...is fallen...

Snyder, you genius.

"There was a time above. A time before. There were perfect things, diamond absolutes. But things fall. Things on Earth. And what falls, is fallen."

 

[Lily Adler]

"There was a time above. A time before. There were perfect things, diamond absolutes. But things fall. Things on Earth. And what falls, is fallen."

 

[donuts]

How does he do it?

 

[Deck Rickard]

So much thought.

 

[-Arya-]

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How does he do it?

That dude needs to watch more movies, but also it’s just a non-sequitur. Parallel imagery doesn’t mean Snyder *understands* Superman.

 

[donuts]

So much thought.

Never seen anything like this before!

 

[Deck Rickard]

Sometimes I wonder if Snyder Cultists have ever watched any other movies.

 

[-Arya-]

Sometimes I wonder if Snyder Cultists have ever watched any other movies.

They’ve seen Gladiator and Star Wars on a loop while reading The Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen. That is the bulk of their media literacy.

 

[GreenKToo]

Snyder comes from the Michael Bay school of filmology.
S'plosions and stuff. With lots of lens flairs, looking forlorn, frowning, and plenty of zippy one liners.
JJ went as well.

 

[king666]

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How does he do it?

All these posts in r/snydercut have strong “I’m 14 and this is deep” vibes.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Shawn at BOT projecting Superman will pass JW Rebirth domestically this weekend.

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[titansupes]

They’ve seen Gladiator and Star Wars on a loop while reading The Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen. That is the bulk of their media literacy.

Not true-- they pretend to like that ****ty Excalibur movie sometimes.

 

[Lily Adler]

All these posts in r/snydercut have strong “I’m 14 and this is deep” vibes.

The Manosphere has adopted the Snyder Cult and MAGA into their ranks...

 

[Deck Rickard]

The Manosphere has adopted the Snyder Cult and MAGA into their ranks...

A match made in hell.