Superman (2025) Box Office Thread

[AheadOfTheCurve]

I’m doing my part for the box office.
I’m going to see it a 4th time tonight. With a friend who hasn’t seen it yet. Exciting

 

[Galactus123]

Batman can take a back seat for a while. Give me a new WW, some more appearances of the Justice Gang, Teen Titans etc…

From box office perspective they can't really delay Batman for too long. DCU definitely needs him.

 

[-Arya-]

From box office perspective they can't really delay Batman for too long. DCU definitely needs him.

Of course they’ll need him eventually. Right now though, I think it’s smart to expand Superman’s corner of the DCU.

 

[chintai80]

can the DCU withhold using batman for a few years like how the MCU withheld putting spider-man in the movies for the first 2 phases?

even though it was mainly a rights issue with sony.

 

[Tra-El]

I agree that DC Studios needs to revamp the Super-family and put all of their attention on that cornerstone of DC first and foremost. When Batman can eventually be your secret weapon (and then Wonder Woman thereafter) then that would be a major heartbeat of health for the DCU. They should be a tad more patient with how they introduce Batman and Wonder Woman for utmost effect.

 

[jokesonm3]

Reeve's films can satisfy any Batman cravings the general audience has while Gunn can focus on building the rest of the league.

 

[DCDAVE]

I don’t think Batman is coming to the DCU until Reeves trilogy is finished. That is why there is still a chance that Pattinson could cross over. Wonder Woman might be the next big hero that is introduced. It sounds like she is a mandate. Anna basically stopped writing the script for Titans to focus on Diane.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Anyone else totally irritated with Matt Reeves and how his snail's pace messes up matters with the DCU (since we can't have two Batman movies in the same year), and also did so with the DCEU? I wish it was integrated or not done at all.

Do you understand that he's gone through something in his personal life that has slowed his pace?

 

[Sithborg]

I don’t think Batman is coming to the DCU until Reeves trilogy is finished. That is why there is still a chance that Pattinson could cross over. Wonder Woman might be the next big hero that is introduced. It sounds like she is a mandate. Anna basically stopped writing the script for Titans to focus on Diane.

I'm not entirely sure they will want to reboot after the 3rd movie. A lot will depend on if they can get more HBO spinoffs.

 

[DCDAVE]

I'm not entirely sure they will want to reboot after the 3rd movie. A lot will depend on if they can get more HBO spinoffs.

Yeah lots of things are up in the air. It just would be much easier to grandfather the Reevesverse into the DCU in 2030. Superman is such a good start. I am interested in that animation project with Dick and Jason. Batman is always that break in case of emergency character.

 

[psylockolussus]

Superman To Hold a Box Office Record Only The Dark Knight Did - Comic Book Movies and Superhero Movie News - SuperHeroHype

James Gunn's Superman is galloping toward setting a box office record that no other DC movie after The Dark Knight has achieved.

www.superherohype.com

"1st DC movie since 2008, to beat Marvel in annual box office".

A Super record in 17 years.

 

[DCDAVE]

Superman To Hold a Box Office Record Only The Dark Knight Did - Comic Book Movies and Superhero Movie News - SuperHeroHype

James Gunn's Superman is galloping toward setting a box office record that no other DC movie after The Dark Knight has achieved.

www.superherohype.com

"1st DC movie since 2008, to beat Marvel in annual box office".

A Super record in 17 years.

Spider-Man will smash Supergirl next summer at the box office but there is a fair chance that Supergirl will be a better movie with critics and fans. I also wonder how the Nolan movie will affect both films overseas.

 

[psylockolussus]

Spider-Man will smash Supergirl next summer at the box office but there is a fair chance that Supergirl will be a better movie with critics and fans. I also wonder how the Nolan movie will affect both films overseas.

Spider-Man will definitely outgross Supergirl.

Critical reception is a different thing. The last five Spider-Man movies were critical acclaimed, really good RT scores. Then this year Thunderbolts and Fantastic 4 got better reviews than Superman.

 

[DCDAVE]

Spider-Man will definitely outgross Supergirl.

Critical reception is a different thing. The last five Spider-Man movies were critical acclaimed, really good RT scores. Then this year Thunderbolts and Fantastic 4 got better reviews than Superman.

Superman has 100 more reviews than Fantastic Four/Thunderbolts so the scores are more on par with each other. Certainly the audience scores. Superman will probably end up with 500 reviews while Thunderbolts will miss 400 reviews and Fantastic 4 probably get 425 reviews. All three are equivalent is my point with critics alike.

Superman will out gross all three MCU movies for the year. That certainly will send shock waves through Disney who with Universal tried to take down Superman. I love it, hopefully stuff like that continues as it is actually fun to go to the movies nowadays. Saw all three, (Superman, Jurassic Rebirth, Fantastic 4) and I have never experienced a good time at the Summer theater before as an adult. Plus I got warmed up with Sinners and F1. AMC has all my money….

Supergirl is based off of Woman of Tomorrow that is critically acclaimed comic book. Spider-Man is the number 1 superhero in the world. Let’s see what DC has up its sleeve as the clear underdog. Hopefully the Michael Jackson biopic gets released that summer so with the Odyssey, Summer of 2026 will be better then 2025.

 

[psylockolussus]

Superman has 100 more reviews than Fantastic Four/Thunderbolts so the scores are more on par with each other. Certainly the audience scores. Superman will probably end up with 500 reviews while Thunderbolts will miss 400 reviews and Fantastic 4 probably get 425 reviews. All three are equivalent is my point with critics alike.

Superman will out gross all three MCU movies for the year. That certainly will send shock waves through Disney who with Universal tried to take down Superman. I love it, hopefully stuff like that continues as it is actually fun to go to the movies nowadays. Saw all three, (Superman, Jurassic Rebirth, Fantastic 4) and I have never experienced a good time at the Summer theater before as an adult. Plus I got warmed up with Sinners and F1. AMC has all my money….

Supergirl is based off of Woman of Tomorrow that is critically acclaimed comic book. Spider-Man is the number 1 superhero in the world. Let’s see what DC has up its sleeve as the clear underdog. Hopefully the Michael Jackson biopic gets released that summer so with the Odyssey, Summer of 2026 will be better then 2025.

Thunderbolts and First Steps don't need to have the same number of reviews as Superman. Both films still got 300+ critics reviews on Metacritic. 88/86 are higher than Superman's 83.

And Superman should definitely outgross all those Marvel movies that came out this year. No one asked for Thunderbolts and a Sam Wilson movie, while Fantastic 4 isn't even in the same level of cultural significance as X-Men and Spider-Man, let alone D.C's Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. So yes, Superman should be doing a lot of more than those 3 films, because it would have been embarrassing if it didn't.

 

[DCDAVE]

Thunderbolts and First Steps don't need to have the same number of reviews as Superman. Both films still got 300+ critics reviews on Metacritic. 88/86 are higher than Superman's 83.

And Superman should definitely outgross all those Marvel movies that came out this year. No one asked for Thunderbolts and a Sam Wilson movie, while Fantastic 4 isn't even in the same level of cultural significance as X-Men and Spider-Man, let alone D.C's Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. So yes, Superman should be doing a lot of more than those 3 films, because it would have been embarrassing if it didn't.

You are going by comic book sales or 60, 70s, 80s when Superman was popular. Yeah to guys my age you would be correct but people under 35 Spider-Man, Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor are the top Superheroes now. Superman is closer to the Fantastic Four than you think. You would be shocked to know but Homelander and Omni Man had more attention than Superman before Supes came out this summer. Superman was the 9th rated movie to come out for the year with Fandango. Captain America and Fantastic Four was well ahead of the Man of Steel. Superman was behind the Accountant 2 and the Ballerina.

More importantly we talking about the MCU that had Dr. Strange out perform Batman at the Box office in 2022. At the movies DC has not been a rival to Marvel since 2016. The mouse cannot be happy.

 

[psylockolussus]

You are going by comic book sales or 60, 70s, 80s when Superman was popular. Yeah to guys my age you would be correct but people under 35 Spider-Man, Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor are the top Superheroes now. Superman is closer to the Fantastic Four than you think. You would be shocked to know but Homelander and Omni Man had more attention than Superman before Supes came out this summer. Superman was the 9th rated movie to come out for the year with Fandango. Captain America and Fantastic Four was well ahead of the Man of Steel. Superman was behind the Accountant 2 and the Ballerina.

More importantly we talking about the MCU that had Dr. Strange out perform Batman at the Box office in 2022. At the movies DC has not been a rival to Marvel since 2016. The mouse cannot be happy.

Well they shouldn't and they already admitted their faults/missteps in the last few years.

Superman is still one of the biggest comic book properties/fictional superheroes out there, so Superman outgrossing those 3 Marvel films should be a no-brainer, especially given Marvel Studios' output in the last 4 years.

 

[DCDAVE]

Well they shouldn't and they already admitted their faults/missteps in the last few years.

Superman is still one of the biggest comic book properties/fictional superheroes out there, so Superman outgrossing those 3 Marvel films should be a no-brainer, especially given Marvel Studios' output in the last 4 years.

I am going to continue to enjoy these movies but Superheroes have slowed down at the movie box office. I don’t see how anything can top the build up to End Game. Marvel hit a grand slam with that. I for one continue to start from the Incredible Hulk all the way up to End Game about once a year. Just a fascinating group of movies.

 

[Superark]

The only thing that I really worry about with some of these superhero films is that Marvel and DC will take the wrong messaging from their performances and look to make more crossovers.

Deadpool and Wolverine & No Way Home are the only superhero films to crack a billion since End Game.

We're already seeing that with the new Spider-Man film being made. I really don't want to lose singular hero focused movies. I'm okay with the occasional crossover but I don't want to see that in every single film moving forward.

 

[Karelia]

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[DCDAVE]

The only thing that I really worry about with some of these superhero films is that Marvel and DC will take the wrong messaging from their performances and look to make more crossovers.

Deadpool and wolverine is the only superhero film along No Way Home to crack a billion since End Game.

We are already seeing that with the new Spider-Man film being made. I really don't want to lose singular hero focused movies. I'm okay with the occasional crossover but I don't want to see that in every single film moving forward.

The DCU will be tested. If the Super family movie can increase the box office of Superman to let’s say $800 million maybe Gunn holds offf Batman until Reeves finishes his trilogy. People won’t like it but DCU Batman might be at least 5 years away especially if the DCU does one big movie a year. It works for me quality over a quantity.

 

[Superark]

Here's hoping they put Superman back in IMAX to give it one final boost.

It's a shame the international market, particularly Asia, has seemingly given up comic films. This movie would probably be nearing a billion if they showed up.

 

[donuts]

Here's hoping they put Superman back in IMAX to give it one final boost.

It's a shame the international market, particularly Asia, has seemingly given up comic films. This movie would probably be nearing a billion if they showed up.

It's not just Asia. There have been several countries where I think the trust for a good or worthwhile Superman movie just wasn't there. The good news is that despite a somewhat underwhelming opening, legs have been pretty good even there.

A clear indication that the movie's well liked, which sets a good foundation for future installments.

Asia... is another story.

 

[Andreth]

If Reeves is sticking to his own trilogy, that would mean the Batman of the new DCU wouldn’t show up for another 8–10 years. I don’t know… I’m not making any definitive claims, just thinking out loud here. But doing the math, that’s kind of what it looks like.

I keep wondering if The Batman could end up facing the same kind of problem The Flash had?
From what I understand, it’s not going to be part of the DCU, so it won’t connect to Superman or the rest of the upcoming films. If that’s the case, will general audiences still show up at the box office for something they know won’t be part of the bigger picture? In the case of The Flash, by the time it was released, everyone already knew the Snyderverse was dead and buried, and that was definitely one of the factors that hurt its box office.

I’m honestly happy that Superman is finally taking the spotlight, and that they’re not repeating the same mistake of rushing everything and cramming all the characters into one movie without giving them the proper build-up.

That said, I do worry about how far off the DCU’s Batman seems to be. Audiences have clearly changed in the last few years, and I can’t help but wonder if that could hurt the box office for Matt Reeves’ Batman films especially if they’re seen as completely separate from what’s happening in the DCU.

I just hope the gap doesn’t end up working against them and us.

 

[Mr. Peanut]

The only thing that I really worry about with some of these superhero films is that Marvel and DC will take the wrong messaging from their performances and look to make more crossovers.

Deadpool and Wolverine & No Way Home are the only superhero films to crack a billion since End Game.

We're already seeing that with the new Spider-Man film being made. I really don't want to lose singular hero focused movies. I'm okay with the occasional crossover but I don't want to see that in every single film moving forward.

Well the truth is that crossovers are the entire reason we have so many superhero movies making over a billion in the first place...virtually every billion+ superhero film was either a crossover itself or came out very close to a crossover featuring the titular character (with the exception of the Nolan Batman films and Joker, which were a completely different beast).

The thing is, it can't just be all crossovers, or else it stops actually feeling like a crossover (it's just an ensemble cast at that point) defeating the purpose. But they can't also wait an eternity between crossovers like the Multiverse Saga has been doing. So we do need more crossovers than we've been getting. But not 100% crossovers.