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Superman (2025) Teaser Trailer Reaction Thread

Literally can’t relate to anyone who didn’t find the stakes in GotG3 to feel real. :funny: That was the most emotionally affecting CBM I’ve seen in quite some time.

Also, for the record, I didn’t know Krypto even existed until I was an adult because that’s when I got into comics. He wasn’t in any other media I had seen. And I still loved him all the same. So once again, your assumption that he only appeals to kids is wildly off base. Go watch some of those YouTube reactions I mentioned before if you don’t believe my “anecdotal” evidence. They’re there for all the world to see, they’re mostly adults reacting to the trailer, and the vast majority are LOVING the inclusion Krypto, whether they’re familiar with him or not.

I also find it weird of you to assume Krypto’s existence won’t be explained in the film and that the questions you have about him won’t be addressed. Most fantastical elements in CBM’s that are new to the audience get in-film explanations. That’s part of basic storytelling, which Gunn has proven to be competent at.
Okay... You just got at me for dismissing your ideas, but whatever... haha. I found GOTG3 predictable personally, and kind of manipulative. Did you have any doubt that something was gonna happen to the animals? I didn't. It's like killing Lassy, and then going "see! Look how emotional you are!" It was pretty clear the plot device they were meant to play right from the beginning. Forced, IMO.

I never said Krypto only appealed to kids, actually. He appeals to me in certain settings. It makes sense in decades long comic book serial. I do think he was made for kids though, and I do believe he's a hard thing to believe that could really exist.

Even if they do explain Krypto's origin, it'll seem forced IMO. How could it not? "Oh, you didn't know about my super powered pet that can do everything I can do? Oh yeah, this is how I walk him, and don't worry.. he ages like a human... what do you mean how'd he get here? By spaceship of course!" It's a silly notion on its face. A super pet is supposed to be silly. Supposed to not be taken seriously, by design., IMO.
 
Okay... You just got at me for dismissing your ideas, but whatever... haha. I found GOTG3 predictable personally, and kind of manipulative. Did you have any doubt that something was gonna happen to the animals? I didn't. It's like killing Lassy, and then going "see! Look how emotional you are!" It was pretty clear the plot device they were meant to play right from the beginning. Forced, IMO.

I never said Krypto only appealed to kids, actually. He appeals to me in certain settings. It makes sense in decades long comic book serial. I do think he was made for kids though, and I do believe he's a hard thing to believe that could really exist.

Even if they do explain Krypto's origin, it'll seem forced IMO. How could it not? "Oh, you didn't know about my super powered pet that can do everything I can do? Oh yeah, this is how I walk him, and don't worry.. he ages like a human... what do you mean how'd he get here? By spaceship of course!" It's a silly notion on its face. A super pet is supposed to be silly. Supposed to not be taken seriously, by design., IMO.
Vast gulf of difference between saying you can’t relate to someone’s taste and calling it “dumb.” Only one is an insult. And sure, it was obvious something bad was going to happen to the animals, but what it was, and the nature of it, was what was so heartbreaking and effective, imo. So we’ll just have to agree to disagree there.

Krypto is a dumb idea made up for ten year olds. Yes... Superman is for 10 year olds, but he's for 16 year olds too, 18 year olds too, 30 year olds too. And grown up audiences have to like this movie.
This sure sounds like you’re saying Krypto’s only for kids to me. Yes, he was originally made for kids, as were all Golden Age and Silver Age mainstream superhero characters. And yet, their appeal has extended beyond that, just like Krypto’s clearly has.

Literally nothing you just wrote feels any more “forced” than any other fantastical element in this movie, so we’ll just have to agree to disagree on that one too. Krypto is YOUR line for suspension of disbelief. Cool. You’re certainly not alone there, but I’d wager you are in the minority, based on the response to this trailer.
 
I feel it would be a missed opportunity not to have a Superman TV spot during the Superbowl of all things. The marketing gimmick is right there.
 
I haven't been to a Six Flags in like 20 years but that would be cool.

Six Flags is behind the times when it comes to superhero theming at their parks. It’s a shame they hold the theme park licensing rights to DC Comics and Looney Tunes characters— and not, say, Universal.

Universal would do the DC Studios theming so much better. They know how to do it properly.
 
Vast gulf of difference between saying you can’t relate to someone’s taste and calling it “dumb.” Only one is an insult.
My apologies. I didn't mean it as an insult. I shouldn't have used the word "dumb."

This sure sounds like you’re saying Krypto’s only for kids to me. Yes, he was originally made for kids, as were all Golden Age and Silver Age mainstream superhero characters. And yet, their appeal has extended beyond that, just like Krypto’s clearly has.
A character can be made for kids, but still liked by adults. I watch cartoons regularly, personally. Love Superman the animated series, etc. Semantics I guess, but still. I think Krypto is great in comic panels and in animated shows. I don't like him in cinema, because I think it's more likley that Krypto will make the film feel like a cinematic cartoon, rather than the film making Krypto look like a real world super pet.

Saying that a 'super-pet' concept is cartoonish isn't really a hot take. Nor is it controversial to say that the more cartoonish a story becomes, the harder it is to make the stakes feel real. That's the risk.

Literally nothing you just wrote feels any more “forced” than any other fantastical element in this movie, so we’ll just have to agree to disagree on that one too. Krypto is YOUR line for suspension of disbelief. Cool. You’re certainly not alone there, but I’d wager you are in the minority, based on the response to this trailer.

The last remaining Krypton surviving and landing here on Earth is far far far more believable than that same lone surviving Krypton somehow finding the last surviving Kryptonian dog. I'm sorry. That's silly. It's like saying, "since we now see a monster destroying the city, let's also put in a clown who pulls out his secret super balloon bazooka that can take it down." The idea that just because we can believe one thing means we can believe anything no matter how ridiculous is just not true. People disconnect when you ask them to suspend disbelief too much.

I mean, I think it's clear that Gunn knows how to hit the character beats in a way that Snyder never did, so I feel confident that Gunn is going to make us connect with Clark emotionally, which is what never happened with Cavill. And after that, everything is pretty much just extra. But Gunn is also interested in making an extended universe, and things like Krypto can slowly erode the appeal, because the stakes become hard to increase. I think the film can survive Krypto, but he's a bad omen of things to come, and ultimately, it'll become a bigger problem.
 
My apologies. I didn't mean it as an insult. I shouldn't have used the word "dumb."


A character can be made for kids, but still liked by adults. I watch cartoons regularly, personally. Love Superman the animated series, etc. Semantics I guess, but still. I think Krypto is great in comic panels and in animated shows. I don't like him in cinema, because I think it's more likley that Krypto will make the film feel like a cinematic cartoon, rather than the film making Krypto look like a real world super pet.

Saying that a 'super-pet' concept is cartoonish isn't really a hot take. Nor is it controversial to say that the more cartoonish a story becomes, the harder it is to make the stakes feel real. That's the risk.



The last remaining Krypton surviving and landing here on Earth is far far far more believable than that same lone surviving Krypton somehow finding the last surviving Kryptonian dog. I'm sorry. That's silly. It's like saying, "since we now see a monster destroying the city, let's also put in a clown who pulls out his secret super balloon bazooka that can take it down." The idea that just because we can believe one thing means we can believe anything no matter how ridiculous is just not true. People disconnect when you ask them to suspend disbelief too much.

I mean, I think it's clear that Gunn knows how to hit the character beats in a way that Snyder never did, so I feel confident that Gunn is going to make us connect with Clark emotionally, which is what never happened with Cavill. And after that, everything is pretty much just extra. But Gunn is also interested in making an extended universe, and things like Krypto can slowly erode the appeal, because the stakes become hard to increase. I think the film can survive Krypto, but he's a bad omen of things to come, and ultimately, it'll become a bigger problem.
Once again, can’t relate to anything you’re saying at this point and we’re just talking in circles, so agree to disagree.

I think Krypto is a brilliant addition and I think most of the audience will agree. We’ll see in July. :up:
 
I appreciate that. My language can be pretty aggressive sometimes.

I don't think your opinion that you like Krypto is dumb. I think Krypto can be fun in video games and comic books and cartoons. Superman is a cartoon, and it sometimes can be fun to explore the more silly sides of him. You probably fell in love with the character, like most of us did, as a kid. So, you might like some stories of Krypto, because you see them through that lens.

But call him silly, call him dumb, call him flamboyant... whatever... Krypto was never intended to be something that worked in the real world. You don't see how an existing of super flying pet minimizes and reduces Superman? You can enjoy the super pet for all kinds of reasons.. it's quirky, it's cute, it's funny. But I think you should acknowledge that at very least, here in movies, Krypto will, at minimum, make Superman more separate and strange and different from our world. I'd argue that's a risky thing to do, if you want audiences to

I mean, I hope they don't kill the dog. That would raise the stakes of a particular villain, I suppose. Other than that, it's hard to imagine that Krypto will ever be in real danger. Killing the super dog would probably not go well with the kids. Because let's be honest... that's what Krypto is there for. It's pretty transparent.

For me personally, I'm thinking specifically about GOTG3 as a model of how I don't want it to be. I didn't feel like the stakes were very real through much of that film. The emotions in that film felt pretty forced to me.
Firstly, I appreciate you acknowledging the aggressive language. It's appreciated.

Now... I didn't fall in love with Krypto as a kid. I'm not even massively invested in him in general. He's not my fave part of the superman mythos, I wasn't campaigning for him to appear... but I felt open to it when rumoured because I welcome the return of more whimsical aspects. Since reading/hearing Gunn speak about it and now seeing the footage, I now honestly think his inclusion in this film is a smart move, and that it appears to be coming from a mature thought process (more than just 'cute toys = money).

None of these characters are intended to work in the real world, but... its not like it's a talking dog (which by the way... we did have in GOTG 2 & 3 and I didn't see anyone claiming it made the films cartoony 🤷‍♀️). Its a dog. Dogs exist in the real world. People have pets. So no, I don't think Superman having a dog makes him more strange and different... in fact, as far as making Superman a more relatable character to a general audience, id say it makes him seem more normal.

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And no. Krypto won't be dying. This is not a Snyder film. But I would imagine we will see some emotional beats and feel moved by moments with Krypto, in the same way Gunn usually approaches most characters. Like he keeps saying, no character is there just for the sake of it. They all have a part to play in the actual story. I believe him. I wouldn't be surprised if Krypto is in danger at certain points, or if he does something very dangerous and heroic that we feel as very high stakes in the moment.
 
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I get the argument that some fans want the serious Superman over the fantastical Supes like Gunn is about to introduce. I would suggest if you want a serious Superman go watch Superman and Lois as that Supes had twin sons, dealt with Lois having cancer and came back from death after fighting Doomsday. Very real world issues throughout their 4 seasons as well.

For me Injustice Superman is not the real Man of Steel or Henry Cavil either. I saw an argument stating that if Cavil was given a true Man of Steel 2 he would become the Superman that everyone wants. I can’t see it because of how Clark was raised in Man of Steel. Let me ask you Man of Steel fans, when was Clark ever a drifter in any other medium. Man of Steel was a good movie and right now is my 3rd favorite live action movie of Supes, so I am not flaming on Henry. The man looked the part of Supes but as awkward as Clark was in the comics, he always maintained his heart because of the Kents. The Man of Steel Kents were something else all together. Just a thought.
 
Even if Cavill came back, they were likely going to soft reboot his franchise anyway. So all the Snyder stuff his fanboys liked about Man Of Steel was going to go away/change regardless.
 
Even if Cavill came back, they were likely going to soft reboot his franchise anyway. So all the Snyder stuff his fanboys liked about Man Of Steel was going to go away/change regardless.
The problem with the Justice League Superman was that he came back from the dead and all of a sudden he is joyful and happy. That Superman was never going to work. Henry was always going to be Knightmare Superman. That in reality was Injustice Superman.
 
The problem with the Justice League Superman was that he came back from the dead and all of a sudden he is joyful and happy. That Superman was never going to work. Henry was always going to be Knightmare Superman. That in reality was Injustice Superman.

And from what I read online; Henry's Superman was going to keep wearing the black costume until he "earned it back" in the third JL film (presumably after Batman sacrificed himself to save Lois from Darkseid). The irony of that scenario though is that Henry's Superman wouldn't have gone through important character development to reach that point and only comes to that conclusion after he's spared from being controlled by Darkseid.
 
In the shot (at 1:50) with Superman kneeling next to the robot (Kelex?), it sorta looks like his red shorts/trunks are missing. It could be that the hands cover exactly all the red, but are the shorts that small?

I'm sure the shorts are there; just a weird thing I noticed in going frame by frame. (And I didn't see anyone else mention it.)

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And from what I read online; Henry's Superman was going to keep wearing the black costume until he "earned it back" in the third JL film (presumably after Batman sacrificed himself to save Lois from Darkseid). The irony of that scenario though is that Henry's Superman wouldn't have gone through important character development to reach that point and only comes to that conclusion after he's spared from being controlled by Darkseid.
I actually wanted the DCEU to go with the Knightmare scenario. It was dark but would have been interesting. Maybe at the end they go back in time to correct it..
 
I actually wanted the DCEU to go with the Knightmare scenario. It was dark but would have been interesting. Maybe at the end they go back in time to correct it..

I think a Knightmare scenario only works when a majority of fans have gotten emotionally invested in the core characters. I also think that there's nothing special about having Superman's main arc be about him getting mind controlled just because Lois dies.
 
Firstly, I appreciate you acknowledging the aggressive language. It's appreciated.

Now... I didn't fall in love with Krypto as a kid. I'm not even massively invested in him in general. He's not my fave part of the superman mythos, I wasn't campaigning for him to appear... but I felt open to it when rumoured because I welcome the return of more whimsical aspects. Since reading/hearing Gunn speak about it and now seeing the footage, I now honestly think his inclusion in this film is a smart move, and that it appears to be coming from a mature thought process (more than just 'cute toys = money).

None of these characters are intended to work in the real world, but... its not like it's a talking dog (which by the way... we did have in GOTG 2 & 3 and I didn't see anyone claiming it made the films cartoony 🤷‍♀️). Its a dog. Dogs exist in the real world. People have pets. So no, I don't think Superman having a dog makes him more strange and different... in fact, as far as making Superman a more relatable character to a general audience, id say it makes him seem more normal.

EDIT: I think this belongs here in this conversation

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And no. Krypto won't be dying. This is not a Snyder film. But I would imagine we will see some emotional beats and feel moved by moments with Krypto, in the same way Gunn usually approaches most characters. Like he keeps saying, no character is there just for the sake of it. They all have a part to play in the actual story. I believe him. I wouldn't be surprised if Krypto is in danger at certain points, or if he does something very dangerous and heroic that we feel as very high stakes in the moment.
When Morrison is microsdosing correctly (like this quote) they make the most sense in the world and they have a keen insight into comics that many never think of. When they havent...well it makes you think you are the one on shrooms :o
 
I think a Knightmare scenario only works when a majority of fans have gotten emotionally invested in the core characters. I also think that there's nothing special about having Superman's main arc be about him getting mind controlled just because Lois dies.
Well after the bust that was BVS nobody wanted the Justice League.
 
In the shot (at 1:50) with Superman kneeling next to the robot (Kelex?), it sorta looks like his red shorts/trunks are missing. It could be that the hands cover exactly all the red, but are the shorts that small?

I'm sure the shorts are there; just a weird thing I noticed in going frame by frame. (And I didn't see anyone else mention it.)

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Awww I was hoping we'd reach 'zoom in to the crotch' level of scrutiny. Thank you! 😁

Here's some more obsessive level zooming 😅

 
Its crazy that a trailer for a Superman movie is now the most viewed trailer in history for DC movies, and all the trailers that are above it went on to gross billions of dollars. That is a good omen for the movie. The buzz and excitement is there.
 

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