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Superman (2025) Teaser Trailer Reaction Thread

doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
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There is your "real world" rationale and explanation for Krypto.
Everything else nonsesical about him, you'd have to complain about Superman having too.

Although be prepared for when they justify and explain the inevitable Cat Streaky, the Monkey Beppo, and Supergirl's Horse/Boyfriend Comet.:cwink:

And expect galaxy guarding Ch'p (who predates Rocket), and yes Ace realistically needed to wear a mask, cause otherwise he had a distinct recognizable marking on his head, and everyone would know about his secret crime fighting identity. :funny:
 
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After watching the trailer several times. I realize now the best part of the trailer, is the little boy in the battle raising the flag and calling for Superman. Just hearing a child's voice call for Superman is....something else, like the kid in all of us during a terrible time, call for our hero to save us. It's so damn good.
 
Just hearing a child's voice call for Superman is....something else, like the kid in all of us during a terrible time, call for our hero to save us. It's so damn good.
Pretty much the same "call" of the two jewish boys who created him to begin with.
Who re-imagined the father Jerry Siegel had lost when assaulted in his store and suffered a fatal heart attack, as the Superman they needed, who could now survive anything, fight for and protect everyone.
 
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Can’t wait until the YouTuber that will try to discredit the view totals next week. I saw one trying to say it wasn’t in the top 30 all time yesterday. Grace will be waiting for the Neilson ratings. :woozy: :gross:
 
Can’t wait until the YouTuber that will try to discredit the view totals next week. I saw one trying to say it wasn’t in the top 30 all time yesterday. Grace will be waiting for the Neilson ratings. :woozy: :gross:

I'm sure those guys over at Geeks + Gamers are having an ugly fit over people's love for Gunn's Superman so far.
 
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Good to know it'll at least beat the Flash trailer.
I am surprised at the low number of views for joker 2, the Batman, and Flash on their main site. WB has been a mess over the last 10 years. I still don’t know how they got Reeves and the Dune director. You can make an argument WB has the best stable of directors under their umbrella if you add Gunn.
 
James Gunn knows how to balance comedy and drama for the most part, and from the trailer alone you can see Corenswet's Superman is majorly struggling in this movie which will be intriguing to see. To say that this movie will have no weight and just be endless comedy skit after comedy skit is a great disservice to Gunn as a storyteller. Also, really demeaning to the animation medium as a whole by calling this a "cartoon".

For some. GOTG 2, which I see a ton of people say has heart, and really, when I saw it should have hit with me the most, still fell completely flat for me. It is a question of whether he can do it in a good way. Which I doubt he will do it in a way that works for me.
 
I agree that Gunn seems really good at finding a balance. He probably will.

I saw Conrenswet's Superman sort of struggling... only to be miraculously saved by a plot device that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

I'm not saying the movie will have no weight. I'm saying that it could very easily have less weight, due to Krypto.

I never said that it would be an endless comedy skit after comedy skit.

I love cartoons and animations... I prefer my live action films to embrace the live action element, instead of trying to emulate cartoons. That's my preference. I'm a grown up. I like grown up themes, personally. I understand that the character is for kids too.. I'm okay with that... but yes.. if I had my way, I'd prefer a grounded approach that puts Superman in a world comparable to the one I live in. That to me, seems more exciting. Gunn is going a different way, obviously, and that worries me somewhat, but I'm still pretty optimistic that it'll be a fun, awesome movie, because Gunn does know how to play emotional moments and comedy and action really well. I'm just sharing my concerns.

At the end of the day this is a superhero universe. This isn't some "grounded in reality" black leather horse****. Its a comic book brought to screen. That is obviously the tone Gunn is going for with his DC universe and his Superman movie.

"miraculously saved a plot device" Superman called his dog to him, which is an actual thing you can do with real life dogs. In this case, this dog has the same powers as Superman, which means he has super hearing. If you can suspend your disbelief that a guy from another planet can fly just because he is on a planet that has a yellow sun, why can't you accept that a dog from that same planet can have the same superpowers?
 
At the end of the day this is a superhero universe. This isn't some "grounded in reality" black leather horse****. Its a comic book brought to screen. That is obviously the tone Gunn is going for with his DC universe and his Superman movie.

"miraculously saved a plot device" Superman called his dog to him, which is an actual thing you can do with real life dogs. In this case, this dog has the same powers as Superman, which means he has super hearing. If you can suspend your disbelief that a guy from another planet can fly just because he is on a planet that has a yellow sun, why can't you accept that a dog from that same planet can have the same superpowers?
Stop kink shaming Bryan Singer. :o
 
Fantastical whimsy in live-action =/= cartoon. Or dumb. Careful insulting people’s taste here. Won’t get you far.

Krypto can bring comedy, heart and also, as Grant Morrison proved in one tearjerker of a comic, poignancy. Besides that, not everything has to be there for “dramatic effect.” That’s a recipe for a boring slog that wouldn’t resemble any Supes comic I know. We just had that cinematic Superman. He sucked.
Yes, fantastical and whimsy do not inherently make something a cartoon, but it does exist on a spectrum. Too little whimsy, and it can feel like a slog like you're saying. Too much whimsy, and it can feel like a fairy tale dream with no real stakes. I'd argue that Krypto would very easily skew towards too much, IMO. I've explained why. You're just asking me to suspend too much disbelief.

My apologies about insulting your tastes. Like I said, the film looks promising, but I do have some philosophical disagreements with direction. That's okay, it's not like you can't make a good movie regardless. For me though, Krypto is dumb. It strains credulity to such a degree that it makes it a cartoon, IMO.

Maybe that'll be funny. Guardians of the galaxy 3 was funny too, I guess. But it felt more like a ride than a genuine story. That's what I'm worried about here.
 
Except we've already had that type of grounded-ish approach with Man Of Steel, so regardless of whether one liked that or not, I'm not sure why embracing the more fantastical aspects of Superman this go-around is a bad thing?

Well, I think there's definitely a way to do a good movie, with either approaches. I guess what I'm worried about is that this movie will be such an overreaction to Snyder, that it'll go too far and be too comedic, too cartoonish. I'm not saying it will happen. I'm saying I'm concerned.
 
First of all, you have zero idea of what Krypto can do, why he is there or what purpose he serves. It's like 10 seconds in a teaser...but comic relief is neither a bad thing nor does it take away the stakes when done right. The MCU has made a cottage industry out of it.
Ugh, have they? I'd argue that in a great many MCU films, the comedy has felt forced and taken away from the stakes. I agree that comedy doesn't need to take away the stakes. But creating a pet flying dog that swoops in at the last second, feels like it might.

Second, Krypto doesn't change the stakes anymore than Guy Gardner does. He could save Clark at any time he wears one of the most powerful weapons in the universe.
We'll see how it's done.I see what you're saying, Krypto could save Superman, but so could a whole bunch of other heroes. That's true... that does indeed make it harder to make stakes. I guess what I'd say that in addition to Krypto being a potential get-out-of-jail-free card, he also makes the whole world feel less real. Again, his existence poses a whole bunch of questions. How old is the dog? How did he get here? Can he shoot lasers out of his eyes too? Does this mean there are super cats and super rodents living amongst us? It's silly, and reduces the stakes also in that way, which Guy Gardner doesn't necessarily have to, IMO.

Third its hard to comment on stakes when you have no idea of the threat...

I think you are overthinking this a bit, but I understand where you are coming from even if I disagree.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
 
Not sure if you realise how hostile and patronising you are sounding, so just thought I'd reflect that back to you a bit. To be clear, you are talking to grown ups here.. and it's not 'dumb' to have a different opinion to you.
I appreciate that. My language can be pretty aggressive sometimes.

I don't think your opinion that you like Krypto is dumb. I think Krypto can be fun in video games and comic books and cartoons. Superman is a cartoon, and it sometimes can be fun to explore the more silly sides of him. You probably fell in love with the character, like most of us did, as a kid. So, you might like some stories of Krypto, because you see them through that lens.

But call him silly, call him dumb, call him flamboyant... whatever... Krypto was never intended to be something that worked in the real world. You don't see how an existing of super flying pet minimizes and reduces Superman? You can enjoy the super pet for all kinds of reasons.. it's quirky, it's cute, it's funny. But I think you should acknowledge that at very least, here in movies, Krypto will, at minimum, make Superman more separate and strange and different from our world. I'd argue that's a risky thing to do, if you want audiences to connect.

Secondly - Krypto can ABSOLUTELY raise the stakes. Have you read Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow? When an audience is introduced to a dog in a story/movie, any threat to that dog becomes a major investment emotionally. And that works for pretty much any animal. I mean... its actually one of the things Gunn is known for 😅 The stakes are high in GOTG 3 precisely because we got so much focus on the backstory of a talking racoon that we care deeply and hate the bad guy even more!

I mean, I hope they don't kill the dog. That would raise the stakes of a particular villain, I suppose. Other than that, it's hard to imagine that Krypto will ever be in real danger. Killing the super dog would probably not go well with the kids. Because let's be honest... that's what Krypto is there for. It's pretty transparent.

For me personally, I'm thinking specifically about GOTG3 as a model of how I don't want it to be. I didn't feel like the stakes were very real through much of that film. The emotions in that film felt pretty forced to me.
 
At the end of the day this is a superhero universe. This isn't some "grounded in reality" black leather horse****. Its a comic book brought to screen. That is obviously the tone Gunn is going for with his DC universe and his Superman movie.

"miraculously saved a plot device" Superman called his dog to him, which is an actual thing you can do with real life dogs. In this case, this dog has the same powers as Superman, which means he has super hearing. If you can suspend your disbelief that a guy from another planet can fly just because he is on a planet that has a yellow sun, why can't you accept that a dog from that same planet can have the same superpowers?
Yeah, I agree that the tone he seems to be going for is "comic book come to life." I hope that's as fun as it sounds.

Like I've said... I feel like the slide towards cartoon is a slippery slope. Get it right, and it can be fine. Too much, and it all feels weightless and pointless. To me, a flying pet dog strains credulity to such an extent, that it's hard to take it seriously.
 
I appreciate that. My language can be pretty aggressive sometimes.

I don't think your opinion that you like Krypto is dumb. I think Krypto can be fun in video games and comic books and cartoons. Superman is a cartoon, and it sometimes can be fun to explore the more silly sides of him. You probably fell in love with the character, like most of us did, as a kid. So, you might like some stories of Krypto, because you see them through that lens.

But call him silly, call him dumb, call him flamboyant... whatever... Krypto was never intended to be something that worked in the real world. You don't see how an existing of super flying pet minimizes and reduces Superman? You can enjoy the super pet for all kinds of reasons.. it's quirky, it's cute, it's funny. But I think you should acknowledge that at very least, here in movies, Krypto will, at minimum, make Superman more separate and strange and different from our world. I'd argue that's a risky thing to do, if you want audiences to connect.



I mean, I hope they don't kill the dog. That would raise the stakes of a particular villain, I suppose. Other than that, it's hard to imagine that Krypto will ever be in real danger. Killing the super dog would probably not go well with the kids. Because let's be honest... that's what Krypto is there for. It's pretty transparent.

For me personally, I'm thinking specifically about GOTG3 as a model of how I don't want it to be. I didn't feel like the stakes were very real through much of that film. The emotions in that film felt pretty forced to me.
Literally can’t relate to anyone who didn’t find the stakes in GotG3 to feel real. :funny: That was the most emotionally affecting CBM I’ve seen in quite some time.

Also, for the record, I didn’t know Krypto even existed until I was an adult because that’s when I got into comics. He wasn’t in any other media I had seen. And I still loved him all the same. So once again, your assumption that he only appeals to kids is wildly off base. Go watch some of those YouTube reactions I mentioned before if you don’t believe my “anecdotal” evidence. They’re there for all the world to see, they’re mostly adults reacting to the trailer, and the vast majority are LOVING the inclusion Krypto, whether they’re familiar with him or not.

I also find it weird of you to assume Krypto’s existence won’t be explained in the film and that the questions you have about him won’t be addressed. Most fantastical elements in CBM’s that are new to the audience get in-film explanations. That’s part of basic storytelling, which Gunn has proven to be competent at.
 

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