SUPERMAN in Justice League Discussion Thread

[KELLEL]

Let me be the first to say that I want Superman to kick massive ass in this film, not be a p***y like the Reeve and even Routh film(s). I'm sick of the on screen barf fest of Superman the "wimp". Let the dude kick some ass for godsake.

I want to see a tough Superman, like the one off JL/JLU and Superman: the animated series. They had some ballz. To a degree so did the George Reeves version too. And I don't blame the ass kicking in SR on Routh, i'm sure he can play a good Superman. I blame it on Singerman.
Do the Byrne era Superman in attitude and the Clark Kent persona. That'd be great. Even current Superman would be good. I don't wanna see this Superman tell Lois he likes pink. i want to see this Superman punch stuff and throw Mongul thru buildings! That's how Superman SHOULD be!

Bottom line: STOP MAKING SUPERMAN A P***Y, HOLLYWOOD!!!!!

Also, I'm pretty sure that Armie Hammer was cast as Superman and DJ cotrona was cast as Batman. Not perfect choices that way either, but worlds better, IMO, and it makes more sense.

 

[Webhead2006]

who really knows at this point in time who was really going to be those two roles, and as i mentioned many times for all we know if they were indeed going to be supes and bats they could possibly be recast if wb wants it so. And i would think they would really want to look at the fan backlash on hammer and dj and see they are not right. But hopefully we know soon what is going to go down.

 

[protocida]

I Hope Superman get's owned by Batman with one punch and go cry on the fortress of Solitude!

 

[KELLEL]

I Hope Superman get's owned by Batman with one punch and go cry on the fortress of Solitude!

Yeah, right. LOL! Not without kryptonite or depowering Superman, dude.

 

[Visionary]

I Hope Superman get's owned by Batman with one punch and go cry on the fortress of Solitude!

No prep-time for you, removes Batman head and kicks it like a football into outer-space?
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Let me be the first to say that I want Superman to kick massive ass in this film, not be a p***y like the Reeve and even Routh film(s). I'm sick of the on screen barf fest of Superman the "wimp". Let the dude kick some ass for godsake.

I agree, but as powerful as Superman is, it's gonna take a powerful villain if you want if you want to see Superman kicking some serious ass.

Darkseid should be the villain in JLA.

 

[M.O.Steel]

I Hope Superman get's owned by Batman with one punch and go cry on the fortress of Solitude!

in DKR, batman used kryptonite and was powered by the city power grid, and it was still an even fight

 

[protocida]

In the ''mano-a-mano'' fight. Without powers and Gadjets, Batman would own Superman.

 

[M.O.Steel]

In the ''mano-a-mano'' fight. Without powers and Gadjets, Batman would own Superman.

Superman is a big guy too, and he's just as much of a fighter as batman. people often forget that while superman has all these powers, he fights villians that are FAR more powerful than he is. So, superman has fighting skills also. So, i can't agree with you there. I mean, superman fought mohammad ali. i'm willing to say it would be an even fight, if anything, but batman owning superman, sorry can't agree.

 

[protocida]

Superman don't know how to fight as Batman does.

I Wrote a version of the fight, where a mind-controlled Superman bursts in to the batcave. Batman uses the Tumbler to keep Superman busy and gets a Kryptonita ring he was without Superman's concern.

Superman trashes the Batmobile, when Batman lights Red sun reflectors. They are equipared. They get in to a violent fight, Superman ends up all bleeded when his powers completelly disspaer and Lord calls him back. Batman is also a godsrad.

 

[M.O.Steel]

Superman don't know how to fight as Batman does.

I Wrote a version of the fight, where a mind-controlled Superman bursts in to the batcave. Batman uses the Tumbler to keep Superman busy and gets a Kryptonita ring he was without Superman's concern.

Superman trashes the Batmobile, when Batman lights Red sun reflectors. They are equipared. They get in to a violent fight, Superman ends up all bleeded when his powers completelly disspaer and Lord calls him back. Batman is also a godsrad.

you wrote it?...as in you control who wins? don't you think it's a little biased. so you're evidence of batman winning in a fight against superman in a fight is something that you "wrote"?

come on now. I shouldn't be allowed to write a superman vs batman fight either.

This is basically what i read of your post:
Batman will win in a fight against superman, because i came up with a story where batman beats superman up.

Superman can fight, because that's what he's been doing for 70 years, with villians who are allegedly more powerful than he is.

 

[CaptainClown]

ya I agree with M.O.Steel. You really can't state that your own story is a credible source for how a character that you don't own will act.

 

[GreenKToo]

Lol, Given enough prep time, of course Batman could stand at least a small chance, but whats the odds of him actually getting some prep time if it could really happen?
Whats he gonna do ask supes to wait a little while first so he can prepare?
Supes could just vaporize Bats from far away with his heat vision with not so much as a side ways glance.

I like Batman and all, but in no way do I think he could take Supes in a fight. If you want to give Bats prep time, then you need to give Supes prep time as well. fair is fair.

 

[protocida]

If you read it, you would know there's no winner.

Superman and Batman fighht ''equal'', that's what i want, withou powers. Superman gets pretty messed-up, mainly because he is slowly loosing his powers, now Batman, damn, he is crushed.

He uses everything on the Batcave and still ends the fight crushed with his own Batmobile. And only because he had red sun deflectors and a Kryptonite Ring. Superman would win if Lord haven't called him back, because he was slowing loosing control of his mind. That's what i think. Phisicaly, their Equal.

The ''Preptime'' Batman was only me messing arround, it's fun see the reactions when you disagrees of the person's favorite character position in a fight. t:

Bassicly, it was all a joke. But that's actually my version. Equals. Superman is more boyscout, Batman is tricky.

 

[CaptainClown]

Superman is the kind of fighter that doesn't want to take full advantage of his advantages because it isn't honorable.
Batman is the kind of fighter that takes advantage of all his advantages because he is at a disadvantage and doesn't care about honor but mostly winning.

but if Superman was kind of an ******* he would rip Batman apart.

 

[dodgers2213]

As far as i know and have seen, superman just throws punches and isnt anywhere near the skill that Batman has developed in combat

just thought i'd add that

 

[CaptainClown]

not like superman had to take self defense classes or karate when he was a kid.

 

[M.O.Steel]

As far as i know and have seen, superman just throws punches and isnt anywhere near the skill that Batman has developed in combat

just thought i'd add that

i think of him more as a street fighter, like the ultimate fighters, or like marine, whereas batman is more of a kung fu/karate martial artist.

 

[protocida]

Superman only know how to punch. With the super-strenght, he only need that.

 

[KELLEL]

Superman VS Batman,

Here's how it goes down:

Only way Batman is beating Superman is if he uses kryptonite or depowers him thru some other means.

Building a super suit to fight Superman is a bad idea, don't challenge him to a punching contest of strengths, Batman, cuz he beats EVERYONE, that's his game. Instead, batman will have to get him to play it on his terms, cuz if he just attacks him with some special suit instead of using kryptonite or depowerring him some other way then Batman's screwed.

in order for Batman to beat Superman he'd have to be prepared and use LOTS of careful planning and kryptonite or some other means of depowering him.

If he fights Superman under a red sun so Superman is like an ordinary human and Batman doesn't have his utiltty belt or other weapons, if they just fight mono ey mono, man to man, no powers, no weapons, than Batman will beat Superman, even tho Superman weighs a good 20 pounds more than Batman does and is almost three inches taller than him, Batman wins because he fights guys bigger than him ALL the time and always beats them and has mastered every known form of combat whereas Superman is more of a boxer.

But that's just the opposite situation, Batman's not playing on Superman's terms, Superman's playing on his terms.

So we got Batman who is a genius and olympic level athlete with lots of gadgets VS a dude who can lift over 300 tons and run faster than the speed of sound, fly, shoot beams from his eyes, and is nearly invulnerable, and has only one weakness (depowering).

Superman faces ordinary guys with genius intellect ALL the time (Luthor) and wins, Batman shouldn't present much of a problem unless he depowers him, which would require LOTS of planning and if Superman just shows up and Batman has no K and they have to fight than Batman is piss in the wind. Superman kix his ass, end of story.

WTF kind of fight is that anyway? And ordinary man with a high intellegince VS the most powerful being in the universe who can only be defeated by one way. It's a dumb idea.

The odds of Batman winning are very slim, he's got about a ten percent chance of winning.

The odds of Superman winning are.....well, better than Batman's, i'll just leave it at that.

 

[dodgers2213]

not like superman had to take self defense classes or karate when he was a kid.

exactly

 

[protocida]

We'll have to wait the movie and find out.

 

[M.O.Steel]

exactly

kung fu/karate aren't the only forms of fighting. brute punches and tackles can work also. depowering superman is not gonna change his strength into marshmellows. he'll still be human strong.

i see more of the bouncer at the club vs the kung fu guy. the rock vs jackie chan.

 

[GreenKToo]

I havent read comics in years so someone correct me if i'm wrong here, but didnt Superman know a form of martial art from Krypton called Klurkor?? It was pre crisis.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

As far as i know and have seen, superman just throws punches and isnt anywhere near the skill that Batman has developed in combat

just thought i'd add that

He doesn't need to be. He can knock Batman's head off with his pinky finger, if he wanted to. t:

 

[protocida]

We'll have to wait and see.