SUPERMAN PRIME (holding nothing back) vs GOKU (with full access to the Dragon Balls)

[saiyan jedi]

Live and learn...
So what do you do know about "Superman Prime".
The Golden dude that can recreate planet and everything that lived on it of it fragments.
Pre-crisis Superman moved a planet.
Superman Prime would be able to play jugle planets.
He are as close as you get to God himself.
Gokuu would be a piece of meat for him.

with the dballs goku could do the same
and btw moving a planet is PROPULSION NOT STRENGTH!!! anyway goku has won the poll so why are we still arguing

 

[ster]

Goku wins

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Goku wins

With ease...

As they say in Pokèmon:

- one hit KO!
- "Superman Prime" fainted.
- Gokou have defeated "Superman Prime".
- You gained 233$.

 

[Leto Atrides]

I'm not too familiar with this form of Goku (or Gokuu or Gokou, if you like), but I just have to ask the question: Can he alter reality (which it seems Superman Prime can)? If not, then Supes obviously wins. He has the ability to alter reality. He could literally take any power that Goku has away from him.

If Goku can too, then it would be a stalemate. How can two cosmic beings defeat each other? They could both just sit there and create and uncreate each other ad infinitum.

 

[Chunin]

This isn't even a match, Goku was almost an Anime god before the series ended. Superman Prime was no slouch but he still had ALOT of charecters over his head.

 

[buutenks]

True, in the Bible it took God a week to create Earth.
Superman did the same job in a lot less time.

So I agree, we can call him God-like.

God created the universe and earth first then made the sky,sun,moon,stars etc.

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

God created the universe and earth first then made the sky,sun,moon,stars etc.

Yes, but if you recall, you would remember this.
1st day he created the earth
2nd He created the water - (I realy don't remmeber if this was the first or the second.)
3rd the forests
4th the animal's
5th the human's
6th and 7th he took a nap.

Supreman have no fightingstyle, there are human's who have a lot better tecniques than him. If you look at Gokou, you see that he have a lot of fighting experience.

If Thanos HotU coulden't use magic, if Superman Prime couldent do it and if Harakhti (not Horaku) couldn't use it as well.
They would all get their asses kicked by Bejiita, Gohan or Gokou

 

[bruce wang]

goku sucks.

 

[buutenks]

Yes, but if you recall, you would remember this.
1st day he created the earth
2nd He created the water - (I realy don't remmeber if this was the first or the second.)
3rd the forests
4th the animal's
5th the human's
6th and 7th he took a nap.

Supreman have no fightingstyle, there are human's who have a lot better tecniques than him. If you look at Gokou, you see that he have a lot of fighting experience.

If Thanos HotU coulden't use magic, if Superman Prime couldent do it and if Harakhti (not Horaku) couldn't use it as well.
They would all get their asses kicked by Bejiita, Gohan or Gokou

Yes ,but God created in 1:14 the Sun,Moon and Stars.
In 1:1 he created the heavens and earth,heavens means universe.

 

[Harlekin]

Thanos with the HotU doesn't need magic.

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Who's Who in the Superman Comics

Solaris

Far into the future, synthetic suns - the products of supreme 853rd century technology, provide supernatural, life-sustaining heat and light for their intended galaxies. The synthetic suns also contain vast computer systems, creating a "Hypernet" of sorts, far more advanced and extensive in concept than the Internet we utilize today. And so with the advent of these artificial suns, came the birth of Solaris, the Tyrant Sun.

Arch-enemy of the Justice Legion A, Solaris infected the Justice Legion's Hourman, a super sentient cyborg, with a devastating virus. Biotech in nature, this virus was a threat to humans as well as computers. When the Justice Legion traveled back in time to begin a ceremony honoring the Justice League of America, present day Earth was infected with Solaris's devilish virus.
And so, allied with the evil immortal Vandal Savage, Solaris threatened present day Earth and the far future cosmos, simultaneously. The ultimate goal of Solaris was to destroy his most powerful enemy - Superman Prime! The original Superman - who himself is immortal, Superman Prime took refuge within the Earth's sun. Solaris attempted to shoot Superman with what was thought to have been the last remaining piece of kryptonite. However, the kryptonite was actually a Green Lantern ring... still latently powerful after so many years...which Superman then used to destroy Solaris himself, by causing Solaris to cave in on itself and become a less malicious form of matter. While the exact details are fuzzy, it is believed that Superman Prime then transmuted Solaris's remnants into a new version of Krypton.
Despite the fact that Solaris was ultimately destroyed, it is speculated that its time-altering abilities are still a threat to the cosmos; putting all heroes, from the present and the future, under continuous watch. First Appearance: DC One Million #1

I've got that from the originl DC site,
Gokou would stand no chanse, neither would SSJ4 Gojiita.

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Anything bad by taking fact from other sites, or's it better to pull it out of the ass?

 

[Guyverjay]

I've got that from the originl DC site,
Gokou would stand no chanse, neither would SSJ4 Gojiita.

He's immortal as in he doesn't age not as in he can't die

 

[Jplaya2023]

?????????????

 

[saiyan jedi]

He's immortal as in he doesn't age not as in he can't die

prove it

 

[Jager X]

look in the dictionary for proof.there's a huge difference between immortal and invincible and it's aggravating when people act like they're the same.btw,goku wins and superman is a democratic ballsucker.

 

[Leto Atrides]

I'm just going to be the language police here, but...

He's immortal as in he doesn't age not as in he can't die

look in the dictionary for proof.there's a huge difference between immortal and invincible and it's aggravating when people act like they're the same.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=immortal

And I quote:
Immortal
1. Not subject to death

And for the record invincible means undefeatable, it has nothing to do with whether one can die or not.

Having an indefinite lifespan, i.e. not aging and only possibly living forever, is something completely different.

 

[buutenks]

Tell me what feats does Goku have that puts him over Superman?I'll tell you,he has no feats that puts him over Pre-crisis Superman let alone Superman prime.Goku in ssj3 could lift up to 40 milion tons and go lightspeed.

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Base Gokou can't lift 40 ton's...
SSJ3 would probobly be able to lift about 50...
Gokou pl: 10 can lift a car = 1 ton
Gokou pl: aprox: >10^600 pl can lift for 40 ton's
(a planet like earth need's about a 18k pl, and since he's about Burori, who can destroy a galaxy he's at least a centilion (10^600 / 1 followed by 600 zero's) and he could lift 40 ton's, which syoul be false, he should actually be able to move about a centilion ton's....

Well, actually it's sick...
However, Prime is immu to phychical damage. Goku's screwed...

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

1 centilion = 1^600 =
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[Guyverjay]

I'm just going to be the language police here, but...





http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=immortal

And I quote:
Immortal
1. Not subject to death

And for the record invincible means undefeatable, it has nothing to do with whether one can die or not.

Having an indefinite lifespan, i.e. not aging and only possibly living forever, is something completely different.

Why don't you look up the meaning of the word "semantics" in your dictionary?

Being immortal in comics means you does NOT mean you cannot die. If somone like the living tribunal decides you die. Do you think that someone whose immortal is going to shrug it off

NOBODY in comics is indestructable,invicible, immortal except the supreme being in the multiverse. EVERYONE and EVERTHING else can be destroyed. Hell in some comics (preacher for example) even GOD can die

prove it

Prove what? Superman has been killed before

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Why don't you look up the meaning of the word "semantics" in your dictionary?

Being immortal in comics means you does NOT mean you cannot die. If somone like the living tribunal decides you die. Do you think that someone whose immortal is going to shrug it off

NOBODY in comics is indestructable,invicible, immortal except the supreme being in the multiverse. EVERYONE and EVERTHING else can be destroyed. Hell in some comics (preacher for example) even GOD can die



Prove what? Superman has been killed before

Living Tribunal doesn't exist in the DC universe...
He's a marvel guy as Thanos ifw HotU
ifw HotU = infused with the heart of the universe.

Immortal = that the character can't die.
As long as prime is immortal noone can take his life.
But if someone like God wanted to kill him, she/he/it would first take away his immortality. ANd then he wouldent be immortal anymore, but as long as he's immortal he cannot die.

 

[Guyverjay]

Living Tribunal doesn't exist in the DC universe...
He's a marvel guy as Thanos ifw HotU
ifw HotU = infused with the heart of the universe.

How does THAT have any relevence? Does Goku exist in the DC universe?

Immortal = that the character can't die.
As long as prime is immortal noone can take his life.
But if someone like God wanted to kill him, she/he/it would first take away his immortality. ANd then he wouldent be immortal anymore, but as long as he's immortal he cannot die.

Superman isn't immortal. If he can die by ANY method. Then he's NOT immortal. To imply that someone who is omnipotent ie GOD can't kill superman prime is the dumbest thing I've heard today. Franklin richards could turn Superman prime into a grapefruit then step on him. Comic immortals can die. The infinites could blink and destroy Superman prime. Even the being that made up the infinity gauntlet DIED.

ETERNITY can die and he's the embodiment of the Multiverse.

Prime ISN'T immortal

Hell I bet you think even DEATH or ENTROPY couldn't kill him too

 

[buutenks]

Base Gokou can't lift 40 ton's...
SSJ3 would probobly be able to lift about 50...
Gokou pl: 10 can lift a car = 1 ton
Gokou pl: aprox: >10^600 pl can lift for 40 ton's
(a planet like earth need's about a 18k pl, and since he's about Burori, who can destroy a galaxy he's at least a centilion (10^600 / 1 followed by 600 zero's) and he could lift 40 ton's, which syoul be false, he should actually be able to move about a centilion ton's....

Well, actually it's sick...
However, Prime is immu to phychical damage. Goku's screwed...

What are you talking about?At every ssj transformation the are 50 times stronger then the first ssj transformation.Why is it 50 times?Because when Cell fought fpssj Goku,he was not going all out,but when he is at full power he is about 5 times stronger then fpssj Goku (Cell wanted to be equal with Goku so he could have a good fight) and ssj2 Gohan was at least 10 times stronger then Cell because when he was playing with Cell he was not useing his full power,he probably wasn't even at 50% of his power.

Now why was ssj2 Gohan 10 times stronger, because when Raditz camed and fought Goku and Picolo he was 3 or 4 times stronger but he could be hurt by their punches and attacks but ssj2 Gohan was not even hurt a bit after Full Power Perfect Cell punched him with all his strengh and ssj2 Gohan was probably not even using 50% of his power.

And that 40 ton feat is SvsFL because if it were not then Vegeta from the Cell saga would be stronger then Goku from the Buu saga, and so would Gohan because normal Gohan lifted a 747 and a bus with one hand and that bus was more then 20 tons.And it's SvsFL because there is noway that ssj2 Goku could have destroyed mountain/mountain ranges with just the shockwave of his punches if he could only lift 70.000-90.000 tons.

And don't say that Full power Perfect Cell was only 1 times stronger because that is false,Cell just wanted to be equal with him so he didn't went full power.And there was a gravity of 10 times that of earth so Goku could not lift 400 tons.

 

[Leto Atrides]

I think there is no way Goku can win. It comes down to whether Goku has cosmic powers or not. Prime does. Therefore, if Goku does not have them, he's getting himself unexisted. If he does, neither can win. It doesn't matter how strong Goku is. Altering reality can override any amount of strength.

It's either Supes or a stalemate.