Superman Reboot Writers Workshop

Binker said:
This is what I wan to see in Singer's Superman II. Now I don't have anything for the villians. We know its Brainiac for one, but I have nothing to say about the villians....well let's say not yet. Its the other things I should point out. Here is what I want for Singer's SII:

- Lex Luthor should not be in the film AT ALL.

- The Return to Krypton sequence, cut from Superman Returns, should be seen as a dream sequence Clark has instead, as he is wondering if he should tell Lois the truth about him and Superman and thus be in Jason's life as he is the father.

- To continue the Lois/Richard/Jason/Superman thing: Clark must reveal to Lois that he is Superman. Now before that; I want Lois & Clark to be the best of friends and Lois more nicer to Clark and falling in love with him, after he reveals to her he is Superman. From that, Lois realizes she has to do the right thing. Which leads to the next thing: there should be a human scene at Richard & Lois' home where Lois & Clark (NOT Superman, although he should reveal that he is) reveal to Richard the truth that Jason is not his child but Superman's. At the end of this, Richard understands the whole thing and he decides to leave. Jason finds this out and....(well I got nothing but I think since his father is Superman, I doubt he would feel bad). Maybe Richard stays around as a family friend or soemthing so he is still around and this wouldn't lead to a "he might become a villian" idea.

- One thing is for sure: Jason MUST NOT DIE. Rchard....okay. But NOT Jason.

- Brainiac should appear as an AI (since that is what the computer in the Fortress was) with the evil part of it still sinking in as the film progesses. The appearence of Brainiac should be two phases. The first should be like a deformed Jor-El, with a scary human skull with machinary around it and with a digital-looking texture. And it should have the "three dots" on its head because that should be a sorta deformed machien version standing in for the "S" family chrest. The second phase should be in the third act (ot maybe the end of the second act) where he takes on a organic form using one of the aliens he comes across (during the time in space which means a ship sees New Krypton and New Krypton attacks it) and that alien would be a Coluan alien, and then appears as an alien android. I would say that the reason why New Krypton became Brainiac is because of the crystals that was dopped led to the kryptonian computer evolving into self-awareness

- And finally, the sequel should not end like X-Men 2 where it had a cliffhanging, set for a sequel, ending. The ending should be the end of the Richard/Jason/Clark-Superman/Lois thing where it's like what I'm seeing in the "Last Son" arc where its the "true" family of Clark, Lois & Jason.

That's it. I also have two seperate ideas for Sibger's SIII. But I'll wait before putting that up.


i like it all but the no lex thing. it's not that lex should not be in the movies but the whole story should not be about him as the villain. but having him as a minor villain i think would be fine. and IMO Kevin Spacey's Lex Luthor was way better in this movie then the others. Lex works better if he's dark with a little humor not full blown jokes all the time. Michael Rosenbaum as Lex in Smallvile kicks ass. IMO
 
Binker said:
- To continue the Lois/Richard/Jason/Superman thing: Clark must reveal to Lois that he is Superman. Now before that; I want Lois & Clark to be the best of friends and Lois more nicer to Clark and falling in love with him, after he reveals to her he is Superman. From that, Lois realizes she has to do the right thing. Which leads to the next thing: there should be a human scene at Richard & Lois' home where Lois & Clark (NOT Superman, although he should reveal that he is) reveal to Richard the truth that Jason is not his child but Superman's. At the end of this, Richard understands the whole thing and he decides to leave. Jason finds this out and....(well I got nothing but I think since his father is Superman, I doubt he would feel bad). Maybe Richard stays around as a family friend or soemthing so he is still around and this wouldn't lead to a "he might become a villian" idea.

This here has to be one of the most important aspects of the story unfortunately, Singer has to be especially careful how he moves forward with this, it simply needs to be resolved somehow. I thought Richard White's character could theoretically work for me if he were more of a parallel to Jonathan Kent as a great foster parent, but from my perspective that necessitates Richard knowing from the beginning that Jason is not his own son, even if Lois doesn't know that he knows. There was a prime opportunity during the kitchen scene in SR to accomplish this, but that's less about a sequel and more about being a revisionist. Not sure myself how to approach it...
 
pretty sure Lex will be in it..prolly Brainiac as well,and I have always thought he would form from the crystals dropped on N.K....
 
Killing off Jason or Richard is really taking the easy way. I don't know how Singer can keep them both alive with their character intact and still resolve everything. He'll probably just kill off Richard.
 
The reason why I said no Lex was because he doesn't have to be in ALL the Superman movies. We should at least take a movie break of him. I don't want it to be like the X-Mern movies where it was Magneto for ALL THREE FILMS.

And I thank you for not disagreeing on my NO KILLING JASON/RICHARD policy. If thery did that, then that would be an easy way out on this situation. Plus if you take the more logic viewpoint; if they did kill off Jason & Richard, do you really think Lois & Superman would be together by the film's end? No. Lois would be sad at the end and it wouldn't be right for her to be with Superman even those deaths like her son.

What I said, would be for the best.
 
Binker said:
The reason why I said no Lex was because he doesn't have to be in ALL the Superman movies. We should at least take a movie break of him. I don't want it to be like the X-Mern movies where it was Magneto for ALL THREE FILMS.

And I thank you for not disagreeing on my NO KILLING JASON/RICHARD policy. If thery did that, then that would be an easy way out on this situation. Plus if you take the more logic viewpoint; if they did kill off Jason & Richard, do you really think Lois & Superman would be together by the film's end? No. Lois would be sad at the end and it wouldn't be right for her to be with Superman even those deaths like her son.

What I said, would be for the best.

Yep, that being said, I wonder if it was right for her to sleep with Richard in such close proximity to the time she must have slept with Superman, such that it would even be feasible for Richard to think he had a son with Lois out of wedlock. Whatever Singer does with this triangle he's created, I think the matter of the how and the why he left Earth in the first place should probably be touched upon in the sequel, reinforced or explained in some detail. The dream sequence you suggested could be a foil for that sort of thing.
 
Singer could have Supes faced with another situation of leaving to pursue something or stay and protect Earth. Maybe the villain, Brainiac or whoever, would try to lure Supes away with false hope of Krypton survivors to take over Earth. It would be a good opportunity for him to examine the choices he's made in the past. He'd of course make the right decision and stay this time but not before fooling Brainiac and the audience into thinking he left.
 
<(o_o)> said:
Maybe Superman & Lois could have Jason a little sister in the next movie.


.....or perhaps Jason has a "Twin" brother that Lois has not mentioned anything about!

Maybe Lois has that twin brother of Jason's hidden somewhere secrete away from society because he is evil (hahah)

Then Superman discovers that he has TWO son's not just one!

One good and the other evil - LOL.

(NO I do not wish for this to happen)

Its just that you never know what those writers will throw at us - haha.
 
halfapple said:
.....or perhaps Jason has a "Twin" brother that Lois has not mentioned anything about!

Maybe Lois has that twin brother of Jason's hidden somewhere secrete away from society because he is evil (hahah)

Then Superman discovers that he has TWO son's not just one!

One good and the other evil - LOL.

(NO I do not wish for this to happen)

Its just that you never know what those writers will throw at us - haha.

So from the Jesus references to a Caine and Abel type deal? I'm sure people would embrace that firmly :cwink:

(P.S. My spelling of "Caine" was an intentional nod to Michael Caine because he was so rad in Jaws: The Revenge.)
 
I say make Richard into Braniac and don't tell Jason that Superman is his father. How can Superman defeat the man that his son believes to be his father?
 
open in metropolis to see images of the city through a camera lense with lois's familiar voice providing a voiceover. it is all about superman's latest heroic, stopping a hurricane from destroying metropolis (complete with footage of superman flying around in it really fast). Now we see we're at the Metropolis pier and Clark also there, helping Jimmy hold the camera equipment. Anyways they go to leave, when from across town, gunfire goes off. Cut to Metropolis National Bank-a enormous bank in the heart of gotham. its been robbed. The crooks have stolen an armored car and have left, smashing through police and their now in a chase. Also, they hav eleft in a helicopter too, and are getting away! Clark excuses himself, and says hell meet them when he gets back and runs off. Lois and Jimmy head for the subway. Superman shows up and freezes the helicopter in a block of ice between two sky scrappers. He then melts the armored cars tire wheels and it thunders into a building, causing a huge COKE COLA bbillboard to shudder before crashing down, a lone 4 year old left unprotected! Superman swoops down and saves the boy, handing him over to the police. Suddenly screams ring out-across the park is a roaring fire! Superman flys over and rescues from the inside, but the building topples over, smashing into the river and crushing the monorail trakcs that go across the river! Then we see Lois and Jimmys car is headed for it! They all scream and the conductor slams on the brak but it roars off-suddenly its caught-supermans got them!

In the aftermath, Superman and Lois talk on the waters edge. its only around 3 p.m., the suns bright out and in full effect. Appearnetly Lois and Superman have not seen a whole lot of eachother, and feel they should see eachother more often before Richard arrives. Lois turns around and Supermans gone. She turns around again, and theres clark. It isnt long before Lois and Richard get into a fight over Jason, causing awkward look exchanges between clark and jimmy.

cut to outer space, to brainiacs skull ship.

to be continued!
 
Excel said:
The crooks have stolen an armored car and have left, smashing through police and their now in a chase. Also, they hav eleft in a helicopter too, and are getting away! Clark excuses himself, and says hell meet them when he gets back and runs off. Lois and Jimmy head for the subway. Superman shows up and freezes the helicopter in a block of ice between two sky scrappers.

wow. what an obvious ripoff of the original Spider-man trailer. also, block of ice? I don't think he's able to form geometric shapes with his breath. why would he even bother to suspend it between two buildings? and why would the crooks escape in both a helicopter AND an armored car?
 
I want to see Supes doing more super fast. I don't care if he's putting a freaking puzzle together.
 
brainac and his henchman, havoc, have discovered new krypton and determine it came from earth. they begin their descent in search of kal-el. fadethrough metropolis round 9 p.m. to se elois at the daily planet writing. clark's there. they chat, lois saying how she wishes she saw more of superman. moments later clarks gone, supermans at the window. he flies lois up to the roof, where they chat and catch up. Lois is sorry for giving supes the cold shoulder for a while. They agree to talk more often. Lois comments how the sky loks beatiful, and superman flies her up to see it. they land, and the lines go:

LOIS
I have to go back now....

SUPERMAN
Will I see more of you? I do miss you, lois.

LOIS
Is it true that you never tell a lie?

SUPERMAN
never.

Lois KISSES superman-they begin to kiss, before it breaks. Superman smiles, and we fade out, and fade into a massive island prison during a storm. we meet lex luthor in prison. he does a funny little escape and hes smuggled off the island, and picked up by a private plane. Hes escaped from jail. Next day at the daily planet, Lois is almost in almost in a daze, like she just met superman for the very first time. Meet up with lex who arrives in a warehouse, and we see hes got his men at work-they have tvs set up f a private plane.

cut to metropolis airport and see kitty koslowski is getting on a private plane. it takes off. we see the pilot drink some water. clark and lois talk some more, with jimmy jokes. cut to lex, who says "it should happen any minute". cut to the plane-the pilot passes out. the plane begins gluiding stedily downward. kitty notices. opens the pilots door-sees him passed out-screams! Clark at the planet hears it. Through the windshield, we see the plane break the clouds-it cruising downwards directly over metropolis river, heading for the huge suspension bridge. kitty shoves him out of the way but doesnt know what to do. she pulls up on the wheel but she cant out muscle an airplane- she rockets downbwards straight for the bridge-cut to the planet. clark enters the staircase, rips open shirt. back to lex, hes getting excited. the planes almost to the bridge-kitty shoves down-the plane nose dives, missing the bridge but is rocketing into the water-superman catchesit, lifts it-lex expected it. "right on que" he says and presses a button-we see a small canister on the belly of the plne-boom! the canister explodes, the planes fine, but ti shoots kryptonite into the air. superman falls as the plane sidewhindes into the city, going down over metropolis avenue, heading for the square! lois at the planet hears commotion-sees the plane comming through a window-richard spots it to! they run out-superman gathers himself, bullets after it-pull sup alongside it-kityt screams "help me superman!" and superman yells "hang on!" he falls back, he grabs the wing-it explodes-he falls back-the plane spins, tralis of smoking clouding the canyons of metropolis! kitty screams, amost to th eground. the other wing explodes-superman melts it and flys through it and under the plane, catches it in a dive feet above the ground, spots another bomb-hurls out to sea- swooshes it up in to the air and finally sets the plane down before a crowd in the middle of metropolis square. lois is there and makes eye contact with superman. lex is pissed. jason sees superman, too. richard thanks superman, and guides him away from the swirling press. the 2 are friends. its covered on tv.
Meanwhile, catch up with brainiac and havoc. we see their skull ship sitting queitly in the middle of the sahara under the bright sun. their crusing in a land rover hover craft. havoc drives as brainiac sits. their heading towards the kryptonite. lex is enraged, and quickly leaves when word spreads forces are heading that way. we see hes in washington d.c. Back to Metropolis, lois and richard are getting ready for a large event the following night. lois is interviwing the president atop the ritz metropolis's new balcony level, but theres an argument over what to do with jason. clark agrees to watch him, while jason plays with his superman toy which richard pulls away. hes jealous. richard leaves, he hs a trip to newark till tomorrow afternoon.
 
Excel said:
he falls back, he grabs the wing-it explodes-he falls back-the plane spins, tralis of smoking clouding the canyons of metropolis! kitty screams, amost to th eground. the other wing explodes-superman melts it and flys through it and under the plane, catches it in a dive feet above the ground,

and now you're ripping off the first episode of Superman:TAS and Superman Returns.
 
never seen the tas...and it plays out mad different then superman returns
 
I just wanted to say that the Lois/Richard/Superman/Clark/Jason thing: if anything, what I want for those characters is what I REALLY want. The rest is sorta like "in the air".

Its what I want for those characters to happen in the sequel.
 
I think Richard knows that Jason is not his child but doesn't know that Superman is the father. I think when Superman and Clark left, and when Richard joined the Daily Planet, Lois had already had the baby. She started a relationship with Richard and soon Richard legally adopted Jason.

I don't think Richard will just leave after finding out. He will probably be killed, probably protecting his adopted son- Jason could be in danger, since Lex knows that Jason is Superman's son now, so Jason is Superman's vulnerability.
 
OPENING CREDITS

EXT.
A helicopter wanders over a deserted island. A dark-haired woman is visible on the island.

PILOT
There appears to be a stranded person
on that island - looks like a female. I'm
going to pick her up. God knows how long
she's been stranded down there.

The woman begins to slap rapidly at the helicopter.

KITTY
Hey! Down here!

The helicopter slowly begins to land.

KITTY
Oh, thankgod! Thankyou, god!

The helicopter successfully lands. The pilot exits the chopper.

PILOT
What are you doing down here, lady?

KITTY
I - we - our plane ran out of fuel.

PILOT
"our"? Who else is here?

Lex Luthor appears from a bush. He is walking rather stiffly.

LEX
That's the first crap I've had in a week ...
a week!

Lex looks up to see the pilot.

PILOT
Lex Luthor?

LEX
Hello?

CUT TO:
Lex and Kitty sat inside the back of the helicopter.

KITTY
Yeah, I wonder why you needed to crap.

LEX
Not now, Kitty. It was just a stupid, worthless
dog. I'll get you a new one.

Kitty sobs.

KITTY
I still can't believe you eat my dog!

Lex mumbles. The helicopter drifts off into the sunset.
 
The only thing i'm gonna bother mentioning is that planes cant land or take off on tiny islands.

The rest, well... i'm just gonna assume you were joking.
 
Hm...silly mistake, I'll change the plane to a chopper.

And no, I was being deadly serious. Is there a problem?
 

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