Superman vs. Captain Marvel

[Czar Colossus]

DKR2 is out of contuinity. Billy and Captain Marvel are the same, as shown by almost everything but DKR2.

Yeah; I like Miller, but I hated his interpretation of Captain Marvel!

 

[sethcohen]

which is why he hasnt worked on an in-continutiy title in how long?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Aucun problème, I guess, madame.

And no, beating Billy does not equate to beating Captain Marvel. That's like saying Hal Jordan without his GL ring is the same as beating Hal Jordan with the GL ring.

Mademoiselle. I'm neither married nor old.

 

[Harlekin]

Mademoiselle. I'm neither married nor old.

The only reason I didn't flunk French involves sexual favors so you'll have to forgive me.

 

[incubat]

oh làlà...sacre bleu

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

The only reason I didn't flunk French involves sexual favors so you'll have to forgive me.

It's alright. *Hug.*


Though I find it wrong to circumvent schooling through such behaviour.

*Must remain resilient and firm as a personality. Or people won't think she's a b**ch through and through.*

 

[Harlekin]

Then you better not ask me who I got through math.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Then you better not ask me who I got through math.

I'm going to assume you decided to sell popcorn and fig bars.

 

[incubat]

math.....my number one enemy....there should be like a superevil-math-man, the most powerfull villain ever

 

[Harlekin]

I'm going to assume you decided to sell popcorn and fig bars.

You know me so well.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

math.....my number one enemy....there should be like a superevil-math-man, the most powerfull villain ever

Math isn't anybody's enemy. People are just naturally scared of it.

It's really not so hard.


Anybody who can solve 5+x=8 can solve ANY math equation.

 

[incubat]

yeah, that's what my math teacher said...i almost didn't pass....but i guess i have some of those luck powers

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

yeah, that's what my math teacher said...i almost didn't pass....but i guess i have some of those luck powers

Not luck. You just can't think of math as something tremendous. No mathmetician got anywhere thinking of future math.

 

[incubat]

that's actually kind of cool, you know, i allways wanted to be good at math and physics, but i guess numbers aren't my strenght, i'm more of a social and human sciences kind of person, i do respect mathematicians though

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

that's actually kind of cool, you know, i allways wanted to be good at math and physics, but i guess numbers aren't my strenght, i'm more of a social and human sciences kind of person, i do respect mathematicians though

You can be good. It just takes dedication really.

 

[incubat]

yeah, but i'm over it now, i'm allready in college, and mymajor doesn't require more math classes

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

yeah, but i'm over it now, i'm allready in college, and mymajor doesn't require more math classes

x.x Social sciences? One of the few sciences harder than physics?

 

[incubat]

well...it doesn't require that many numbers, other than statistics, but that isn't my major, it's actually journalism (allthough i might be changing it)

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

well...it doesn't require that many numbers, other than statistics, but that isn't my major, it's actually journalism (allthough i might be changing it)

Stat might be something you don't really need unless you're doing heavy comparisons of teams or death rates or something. And even then, it's not that bad.

But don't stress changing your major.

I changed mine like eight times my first year of college.

 

[incubat]

where did you end up?

 

[Redwolf]

Oh dear!
Mortal means the opposite of Immortal. So a mortal is someone who could die. Can Superman die? YES. He already died, remember. So that makes Superman MORTAL.

Captain Marvel is the Mightiest Mortal. That technically means his stronger than any mortal there is, including Superman. Another reason why Superman will lose to Marvel is because of the nature of his powers, which are mystical in nature. Remember that one of Superman's weaknesses is mystical/magical powers. That alone is enough reason to believe that Captain Marvel can beat Superman anytime.

I cannot let this mis-information go unrefuted. If you don't like the fact I brought this topic back too bad so sad.

The above argument is quite stupid and here is why...

Captain Marvel is "Earth's" mightiest mortal..not the "universe's" mightiest mortal Toby. In other words Cap is the mightiest of the "humans". Superman is not a human which makes your argument a dud.

Not only that but Captain Marvel has the strength of Hercules...Hercules!!! Are you actually saying Superman is not as strong as Hercules!?...LOL. Superman's strength is far superior to Hercules which means he's stronger than Captain Marvel!. Remember that "Superman has powers BEYOND those of mortal men."

Lets not forget Superman has fought magical beings on par with Cap and even more powerful than Cap and come out on top.

As for Superman being "Mortal".

In canon, it's been established, hinted at, and thrown at us, that Superman is virtually immortal, in the truest sense of immortality. That is, he will never die a natural death.

Getting killed however, is entirely possible. He could be beaten to death, a la the doomsday fight, but also, the older he gets, the stronger and more resilient he becomes, so even this gets harder.

The longer he lives, the exponentially greater his life expectancy than becomes. The longer he is alive, the more solar energy he takes in. This further increases his body's resiliency, and efficiency, which then leads to his life expectancy increasing,w hich leads to his body becoming even more efficient, further staving off the breakdown of his body, which leads to even more solar energy absorption, which leads to an increase again in his life expactancy, and the cycle goes on and on. THe only way for him to grow old and die is to be away from any kind of yellow sunlight forever. In an environment with a yellow sun, he can not grow old and die.

 

[Redwolf]

But it was already proven that Superman is not made of steel. Get what I'm saying? Captain Marvel was shown capable of beating Superman when he wanted to,

-Of course it's possible to beat Superman in battle, no one is ubeatable not even Superman. Superman is also capable of beating Captain Marvel. It's logical to conclude that Superman should be able to defeat Cap since he is more powerful.

And where is Superman right now? In Krypton? LOL! He is in Earth, and even though he is in Earth, Marvel is still the World's(Earth's) Mightiest Mortal.

-As I said in the above post...Captain Marvel is "Earth's" mightiest mortal..not the "universe's" mightiest mortal Toby. In other words Cap is the mightiest of the "humans". Superman is not a human which makes your argument a dud. In Kingdom Come Marvel couldn't even survive the nuke blast while Superman did.

Not only that but Captain Marvel has the strength of Hercules...Hercules!!! Are you actually saying Superman is not as strong as Hercules!?...LOL. Superman's strength is far superior to Hercules which means he's stronger than Captain Marvel!. Remember that "Superman has powers BEYOND those of mortal men."

Superman constanly getting stronger? Right. Make up more imaginary abilities for Supes just to make an arguement. Marvel was the first super strong hero who can fly and move at amazing speed than Supes while Superman was just a high-jumping superhero until DC decided to copy Marvel's powers and add them to Supes.

You obvisously don't read Superman comics. If you did you'd realize Superman has grown in power since the 1986 reboot. Current Superman can..

Move at 99% the speed of light
Push the moon under normal power
Heat vision as hot a star
Invunerablity...Superman withstood at point blank range the Maggedon Warhead!!! This weapon has the power to destroy half a galaxy!!
He can fly into the sun with no problems

The powers above are what current 2007 Superman is capable of. Fifteen-to twenty years ago Superman wasn't capable of those feats. So you are wrong. Superman is getting stronger.

Nope. Superman can hurt himself if he punches a magical barrier and can be hurt by superstrong magical beings. His invulnerbility is useless against magic.

-Yet he has and is able to defeat magical beings...hmmm So much for the "His invunerability is useless against magic" remark.

Yes. And DC decided that Captain Marvel can beat him anytime if he wanted to. Case close, fanboy.

Yet when the two battle Captain Marvel doesn't defeat Superman. In Kingdom Come Superman outran Marvels bolt to turn him back into Billy. Which showed Superman was holding back up to that point. In Superman/Batman after Marvel ranted on about being able to beat Superman, Superman uses his heat vision on Marvel.

 

[Redwolf]

Why does everybody think SM is stronger.

And the only reason SM might be more experienced is because DC put CM on the shelf. SM was created in '38 and CM was created in '39. CM is like the second or third oldest Comicbook hero ever.

Because Superman IS stronger. Cap's strength is that of Hercules. Superman's strength is far superior to Hercules.

That has nothing to do with exeperience. Think of it this way, how long as Billy Batson been Captain Marvel in current continuity? Compared to how long Clark has been Superman? In current continuity Clark became Superman at 25. After Superman showed up other heroes began to emerge. For instance Batman showed up months after Superman, aswell as Green Lantern. Currently in the comics Superman is what around 29-35 years of age? Which means he's had a few years of super hero experience. Billy Batson (before the infinite crisis) was still a kid. He had been Captain Marvel far shorter than Clark had been Superman.

 

[Redwolf]

The current versions of each character right now. Superman would get spanked like a lil *****.

Can Captain Marvel move at 99% the speed of light?

Can Captain Marvel survive the Maggedon Warhead, which is capable of destroying half a galaxy?

Is Caps strength..(which is equal to Hercules) higher than Superman.

The answer to the questions above is no. Current Cap would put up a decent fight but he wouldn't defeat Superman.

 

[Toby_Temple]

I cannot let this mis-information go unrefuted. If you don't like the fact I brought this topic back too bad so sad.

The above argument is quite stupid and here is why...

Captain Marvel is "Earth's" mightiest mortal..not the "universe's" mightiest mortal Toby. In other words Cap is the mightiest of the "humans". Superman is not a human which makes your argument a dud.

Superman is on Earth as well and is an Earth-base hero. Still, Marvel retains the title.

Not only that but Captain Marvel has the strength of Hercules...Hercules!!! Are you actually saying Superman is not as strong as Hercules!?...LOL. Superman's strength is far superior to Hercules which means he's stronger than Captain Marvel!. Remember that "Superman has powers BEYOND those of mortal men."

LOL. Read the comics again bud. When those two fight you won't see any difference. And Marvel already stated that he could beat Supes anytime if he wanted to.

Lets not forget Superman has fought magical beings on par with Cap and even more powerful than Cap and come out on top.

A review on logic: A winning against B does not mean A would also win against C coz B won against C.

As for Superman being "Mortal".

In canon, it's been established, hinted at, and thrown at us, that Superman is virtually immortal, in the truest sense of immortality. That is, he will never die a natural death.

Getting killed however, is entirely possible. He could be beaten to death, a la the doomsday fight, but also, the older he gets, the stronger and more resilient he becomes, so even this gets harder.

Idiot's guide to the word IMMORTAL: immortal - a being that could not die; eternal; everlasting.

The longer he lives, the exponentially greater his life expectancy than becomes. The longer he is alive, the more solar energy he takes in. This further increases his body's resiliency, and efficiency, which then leads to his life expectancy increasing,w hich leads to his body becoming even more efficient, further staving off the breakdown of his body, which leads to even more solar energy absorption, which leads to an increase again in his life expactancy, and the cycle goes on and on. THe only way for him to grow old and die is to be away from any kind of yellow sunlight forever. In an environment with a yellow sun, he can not grow old and die.

You're in a state of pure denial. Remember that Doomsday killed him even under the environment with a yellow sun. Remember also that kryptonite can kill him as well in such an environment.