The Dark Knight Teaser Poster Coming?

[fabman]

totally agreed man. im not going to lie, before ledger was cast i thought he was a pretty average, bleh actor who just got lucky with that whole brokeback mountain thing (and couldnt STAND him during that). after it was announced that he was cast as joker, i actually got white flashes in my eyes. i couldnt believe it, like WHAT?!!?! are you kidding me??? a casanova joker?? i was actually upset. then i come on here, pretty much everyone said the same thing, but then we get a few pics of him in the makeup and all of a sudden ppl are praising him, without even seeing him yet. to me, he was and is still a crappy actor and his role as Joker will prove only 1 of 2 things, that he is 1. still a crappy actor, or 2. he can actually act good. but he is no jack nicholson.

It's okay. Come one. We all love Burton's Batman. Happy? t:

 

[Baba Ghanoush]

I bet a lot of people hated or thought nothing of Ledger before he was cast. After the announcement, people suddenly think he's a terrific actor. To me, he came across as someone who mumbled his way through some pretty crappy movies. But I am not going to judge him yet and obviously Nolan saw something in him that I have yet to see.

Yeah, you gotta love how he went from a nobody to OMGZ Ledger is the best actor ever! in the minds of certain fanboys.

Like you, I also agree that Nolan definitely saw something in the guy so I know he won't disappoint.

 

[GoogleMe94]

do you trust every discision nolan makes? there were some things in Begins that i thought were great creative choices, but others that....i could have done without.

 

[fabman]

do you trust every discision nolan makes? there were some things in Begins that i thought were great creative choices, but others that....i could have done without.

Does every post of yours have to be a Nolan-bash post? Do not take my posts too seriously... I'm quite a... Joker...

As for me... I just love his take on Batman. It fits my "sensebilities" quite well, you know?

 

[Castlewood]

I wouldn't say Ledger is "ZOMG the best actor ever"... but he's definitely up there as far as his generation goes. I rank him up there with Bale, DiCaprio, Pheonix, Damon, Norton. I think this is the elite.

 

[Solidus]

do you trust every discision nolan makes? there were some things in Begins that i thought were great creative choices, but others that....i could have done without.

Man you better watch your self, every single thread you go into, no matter what, even if it was about kittens you would find a way to guide it to, Burton is Better, Nolan sucks kind of thread. Yea we get it, you don't trust Nolan.

Well a lot of us do, so just get over it.

 

[Baba Ghanoush]

do you trust every discision nolan makes? there were some things in Begins that i thought were great creative choices, but others that....i could have done without.

Honestly? Yeah I do. Nothing will ever be completely perfect, but when you look at all of Nolan's work and assess them each holistically rather than focus on individual parts, they are all engaging films that are well directed.

 

[Citadel30]

I honestly was really surprised when Ledger was named Joker. Then i thought about it for awhile and besides The Patriot- i really couldn't think of a blockbuster that Ledger starred in- except for Brokeback which i didnt watch. So i really didnt know what to think at first.

But i did like that ledger was young, energenic, and really took people by surprise when he tried out for the part. anytime you hear people talking about a new and exciting take on a character- it perks my interest. and i thought the released picture of him with his checks all scarred up looked pretty sweet. Now i just need to "see" him talk and laugh. He really is the number one thing i am looking forward to for this movie.

 

[Naite22]

I'm sure this has been posted here before, but I just came across it and I'm wondering what the hell it is! It couldn't have been from Wizard World because it was posted on Flickr way before that. The page is in French so I'm not 100% sure, but I think the guy is calling it an "official teaser" or something...

Fake, but still the best fake I've seen! It looks very stylish. But I expect and HOPE that they're a little more creative with the official teaser poster, coming soon.

 

[MiniBond]

Fake, but still the best fake I've seen! It looks very stylish. But I expect and HOPE that they're a little more creative with the official teaser poster, coming soon.

I already saw this and I'm seriously wondering where it comes from !!!!

 

[Bat-Mite]

totally agreed man. im not going to lie, before ledger was cast i thought he was a pretty average, bleh actor who just got lucky with that whole brokeback mountain thing (and couldnt STAND him during that).

Lucky? Maybe he got lucky that the movie even got noticed, since it was a pretty small film initially. But he didn't get lucky in the praise for his acting. Every bit of it was deserved. Same for Jake and everyone else involved, it was just an all around amazing movie. It touched me emotionally in a way that few movies do, and Heath was a big part of why it was able to do that.

after it was announced that he was cast as joker, i actually got white flashes in my eyes. i couldnt believe it, like WHAT?!!?! are you kidding me??? a casanova joker?? i was actually upset. then i come on here, pretty much everyone said the same thing, but then we get a few pics of him in the makeup and all of a sudden ppl are praising him, without even seeing him yet.

I personally never doubted him, and that's because of his performance in BM. I have to admit that I was surprised by the decision, but I was more excited about it than anything. I think a lot of the bashing Ledger got at first was due to homophobes who saw him as a gay actor from a gay movie, because they didn't know jack about him. Not saying that was the case with everyone, just with most folks. Btw, I guess that it works both ways, because you're complaining that folks are praising him without even seeing him yet, and you've been bashing him without even seeing him yet. I actually get the impression that you're all set to go to TDK, but for no reason other than to nitpick and bash it. I really can't imagine someone looking forward to a movie, not so that they can enjoy it, but so that they can tear it apart. Yet that seems to be the case with you.

to me, he was and is still a crappy actor and his role as Joker will prove only 1 of 2 things, that he is 1. still a crappy actor, or 2. he can actually act good. but he is no jack nicholson.

We'll have to wait and see, but from what I've seen so far (both from the TDK pics/hype and from his previous roles), I have a feeling it will be the second one. And as for him being no Jack Nicholson, AMEN to that! It's about time we got someone to play the Joker who can infuse the role with passion and emotion.

 

[jsf]

the poster should be freeman asking joker if he got the memo

 

[MiniBond]

Personnaly I imagined the poster with a kinda cloise up to the Joker's hands holding the bat, enough to let us see his smile on top! That keeps the mystery !

 

[stonecold]

I wouldn't say Ledger is "ZOMG the best actor ever"... but he's definitely up there as far as his generation goes. I rank him up there with Bale, DiCaprio, Pheonix, Damon, Norton. I think this is the elite.

yeah agreed, this was all i was saying really.. im just excited about ledger and this film. thought i'd post something enthusiastic about it.. i'll judge the film when it comes out but that doesnt mean i cant hype myself up before i see it. I admit I'm not a ultra-rational wry intellectual commentator like some of you . and yeah i thought Heath was good but only after i saw 'Ten things i hate...' , 'Brokeback Mountain' and 'Candy'. I'm a batman fan not a ledger fanboy, and from what i've seen i love how he fits as my beloved Joker.

and im not omg hes the best actor ever.. i just think hes a great choice..

anyway..ok.. **** it ..I'll forget being hyped and excited on these boards..

 

[Keyser Soze]

totally agreed man. im not going to lie, before ledger was cast i thought he was a pretty average, bleh actor who just got lucky with that whole brokeback mountain thing (and couldnt STAND him during that). after it was announced that he was cast as joker, i actually got white flashes in my eyes. i couldnt believe it, like WHAT?!!?! are you kidding me??? a casanova joker?? i was actually upset. then i come on here, pretty much everyone said the same thing, but then we get a few pics of him in the makeup and all of a sudden ppl are praising him, without even seeing him yet. to me, he was and is still a crappy actor and his role as Joker will prove only 1 of 2 things, that he is 1. still a crappy actor, or 2. he can actually act good. but he is no jack nicholson.

Everyone else has commented on you wanting to make every thread you go on a Burton VS Nolan thread, so I won't go there. I do have a few other points to mention, however.

First, you say that "pretty much everyone" was upset at Heath Ledger's casting as The Joker. Really? Most were surprised by the casting, sure, but having recently looked back at the thread where he was first announced as The Joker, the majority of responses were positive - "Not what I was expecting, but he's a talented actor, it could work," kinda posts. Yeah, there was negativity too (In the form of homophobic "Brokebat Mountain" comments) but far from "everyone" was against it.

Secondly, you assume that everyone who likes Heath Ledger as The Joker when they never liked him before are just blindly following Nolan. No. Heath Ledger wasn't in my mind at all when thinking of candidates for The Joker. But when he was cast as The Joker, I went out and did my research, watched a bunch of his movies, so I could come to an informed conclusion about his acting ability. And - gasp! - I concluded that Heath Ledger really is a damn good actor, who certainly CAN (whether or not he WILL remains to be seen) give a performance as The Joker that will blow us away. Nolan wasn't holding a gun to my head, I made that decision all by myself.

And also, just because nobody thought of Ledger for The Joker before, doesn't mean that he's a poor choice. It's the very fact that the casting is so surprising and out-of-left field that is one of it's biggest strengths. I always love seeing actors associated with "good guys" playing a villain for the first time. And to my knowledge, Ledger's never played a villain before. So that means, rather than retreading familiar ground, Ledger is going to give us something new and unpredictable.

And you complain about people praising Ledger's Joker before they see the movie? What about you? You end your post by absolutely denying there's any possibility of Ledger topping Nicholson. You say the only two possible outcomes for you after seeing the movie will be that Ledger 1) totally sucks, or 2) is okay but is no Nicholson. So, you're just as guilty of judging the performance before you see it.

 

[Silver Knight]

Sweeet! About time.

 

[Stotch]

Yeah, you gotta love how he went from a nobody to OMGZ Ledger is the best actor ever! in the minds of certain fanboys.

Like you, I also agree that Nolan definitely saw something in the guy so I know he won't disappoint.

I liked his character in 10 Things I Hate About You("He ate a LIVE goose!"). Other than that I thought of him as just an average actor who played in a lot of teen movies. When I heard he was gonna be the joker, I was simply surprised, but not "oh my god, ledger is cool!". I'm glad people are saying he does a great job as the joker, which again, surprises me because i'm not used to seeing Ledger play in these kind of movies.

 

[fabman]

Well, I've always enjoyed A Knight's Tale. But, yeah, when I heard he was the Joker, and I really liked the idea of him as Joker, I realised: "he's not just a pretty boy. Not at all." And subsequent movies such as Candy and I'm Not Here proved it once for all, hadn't seen Brokeback Mountain at that time. But I thought his performance in it was excellent, you could see the rage in his eyes in certain scenes.

 

[jtfaria]

do you trust every discision nolan makes? there were some things in Begins that i thought were great creative choices, but others that....i could have done without.

Nolan is not infallible. He DOES get fine performances from his actors, however. He has problems in terms of recognizing and running with his opportunities for creative license. Take the Scarecrow's "fright" scenes, for example. Those should have been extraordinary, but were not. Compare them with, say, the nightmare scenes from Lord of the Rings, when Frodo is being pursued by the Wraiths. They're not in the same league in terms of impact.

Nolan is also weak in his graphic presentation of Batman. He claims he is trying to show how Batman appears to criminals, and that is the reason for the choppy fight scenes. Again, he is missing an opportunity there. Instaed of making those fight scenes headache-inducing for the viewer, he should seize the opportunity to become atmospheric. He ALMOST achieved something like this when Scarecrow sees Batman through the haze of his own fear gas. But we've seen fanboy films, like Batman Dead end and that foreign-language thing set in Arkham - you know the one I mean - where Batman takes on a gritty, yet sometimes almost ethereal, quality. Where he really does NOT look like a "guy in a suit", but like some sort of man-creature. Nolan just can't seem to take us there.

Nolan's strength is in the creation of the world in which Batman exists, and the rules by which Batman operates ("You have to become an idea!"). There he is making some fine choices. That I think is what the fans are pleased with. That world allows Batman to be Batman, but it also allows for more potential than Nolan seems able to handle.

 

[fabman]

Nolan is not infallible. He DOES get fine performances from his actors, however. He has problems in terms of recognizing and running with his opportunities for creative license. Take the Scarecrow's "fright" scenes, for example. Those should have been extraordinary, but were not. Compare them with, say, the nightmare scenes from Lord of the Rings, when Frodo is being pursued by the Wraiths. They're not in the same league in terms of impact.

Nolan is also weak in his graphic presentation of Batman. He claims he is trying to show how Batman appears to criminals, and that is the reason for the choppy fight scenes. Again, he is missing an opportunity there. Instaed of making those fight scenes headache-inducing for the viewer, he should seize the opportunity to become atmospheric. He ALMOST achieved something like this when Scarecrow sees Batman through the haze of his own fear gas. But we've seen fanboy films, like Batman Dead end and that foreign-language thing set in Arkham - you know the one I mean - where Batman takes on a gritty, yet sometimes almost ethereal, quality. Where he really does NOT look like a "guy in a suit", but like some sort of man-creature. Nolan just can't seem to take us there.

Nolan's strength is in the creation of the world in which Batman exists, and the rules by which Batman operates ("You have to become an idea!"). There he is making some fine choices. That I think is what the fans are pleased with. That world allows Batman to be Batman, but it also allows for more potential than Nolan seems able to handle.

Well, Nolan wants to show that through Bale's performance. That's where you find the animal in Batman, not trough stylized visuals.

 

[stonecold]

Nolan is not infallible. He DOES get fine performances from his actors, however. He has problems in terms of recognizing and running with his opportunities for creative license. Take the Scarecrow's "fright" scenes, for example. Those should have been extraordinary, but were not. Compare them with, say, the nightmare scenes from Lord of the Rings, when Frodo is being pursued by the Wraiths. They're not in the same league in terms of impact.

Nolan is also weak in his graphic presentation of Batman. He claims he is trying to show how Batman appears to criminals, and that is the reason for the choppy fight scenes. Again, he is missing an opportunity there. Instaed of making those fight scenes headache-inducing for the viewer, he should seize the opportunity to become atmospheric. He ALMOST achieved something like this when Scarecrow sees Batman through the haze of his own fear gas. But we've seen fanboy films, like Batman Dead end and that foreign-language thing set in Arkham - you know the one I mean - where Batman takes on a gritty, yet sometimes almost ethereal, quality. Where he really does NOT look like a "guy in a suit", but like some sort of man-creature. Nolan just can't seem to take us there.

Nolan's strength is in the creation of the world in which Batman exists, and the rules by which Batman operates ("You have to become an idea!"). There he is making some fine choices. That I think is what the fans are pleased with. That world allows Batman to be Batman, but it also allows for more potential than Nolan seems able to handle.

i see what you mean definitely.. but i think Nolan gave Batman this serious, sweeping, atmospheric scope that was missing before... he treated it like a big classic film and that actually made the BB Batman character more than the sum of his parts onscreen. and i still give him the benefit of the doubt: i know the fight scenes and some batman scenes were a little tame and stilted..but he's new to this superhero action thing. I think he'll get darker, more impressive and more impact on just about all fronts this time round.. I really see imperfection in BB but i can forgive it because he did so much great work in the film too, the slight wonkyness and wrongness of certain scenes doesnt ruin it for me.. but i think he'll correct it this time round. I understood Nolan wanted close quarter violence.. but the close filming and editing actually took the edge off the KFM fighting and made it look tame.. so i think thats a lesson he'll learn. Im happy he put hardcore fighting in there and i still think its a good idea.. he just needs to get Batman looking right 100% of the time in TDK.

Just the few shots of Batman on buildings in BB nailed the shadowy rooftop wraith element of Batman for me in a way i've waited to see for my whole life. But yeah.. sometimes he looked lame, too rubbery and real. im a little worried cos the new TDK suit looks even more brutally real and less ethereal... like an urban combat ninja. i just hope he uses that cloak in a cool way.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

Fake, but still the best fake I've seen! It looks very stylish. But I expect and HOPE that they're a little more creative with the official teaser poster, coming soon.

possibly the best fake poster of all time

 

[Hole Shot]

Still haven't scene Brokeback, but when I heard they announced Heath I was shocked not because it was Heath, but because all I heard was Hulme and Bettany so it came out of left field. So then when I thought of Heath as the Joker the first movie that came to mind was Lords of Dogtown. Skip wasn't anything like the Joker but it demonstrated that Heath could transform himself into a totally different character & personality.

 

[stonecold]

Still haven't scene Brokeback, but when I heard they announced Heath I was shocked not because it was Heath, but because all I heard was Hulme and Bettany so it came out of left field. So then when I thought of Heath as the Joker the first movie that came to mind was Lords of Dogtown. Skip wasn't anything like the Joker but it demonstrated that Heath could transform himself into a totally different character & personality.

Yeah ..when i saw it i didnt realize it was Heath.. He's so good in Lords of Dogtown. When you look at that character, Heath just isn't there. With that role he was really moving away from work he'd done before and showing what he could do. people should check out Heath in Candy..cos there are a few moments in that where your mind just flashes JOKER.

 

[jtfaria]

i see what you mean definitely.. but i think Nolan gave Batman this serious, sweeping, atmospheric scope that was missing before... he treated it like a big classic film and that actually made the BB Batman character more than the sum of his parts onscreen. and i still give him the benefit of the doubt: i know the fight scenes and some batman scenes were a little tame and stilted..but he's new to this superhero action thing. I think he'll get darker, more impressive and more impact on just about all fronts this time round.. I really see imperfection in BB but i can forgive it because he did so much great work in the film too, the slight wonkyness and wrongness of certain scenes doesnt ruin it for me.. but i think he'll correct it this time round. I understood Nolan wanted close quarter violence.. but the close filming and editing actually took the edge off the KFM fighting and made it look tame.. so i think thats a lesson he'll learn. Im happy he put hardcore fighting in there and i still think its a good idea.. he just needs to get Batman looking right 100% of the time in TDK.

Just the few shots of Batman on buildings in BB nailed the shadowy rooftop wraith element of Batman for me in a way i've waited to see for my whole life. But yeah.. sometimes he looked lame, too rubbery and real. im a little worried cos the new TDK suit looks even more brutally real and less ethereal... like an urban combat ninja. i just hope he uses that cloak in a cool way.

I agree. I see the same flaws, but realize Nolan is bright and sensitive enough to perhaps improve on the shortcomings of Begins. I look forward to the 'epic' scope of TDK, which was hinted at by Begins.

Ideally, for me anyway, a Batman film allows us behind the scenes as it were, where we can see Batman is just a guy with a lot of cool toys. But this ideal film also allows us to experience the Batman fantasy and myth those toys are meant to project.