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I'm a bit surprised by the level of critical thrashing this movie is getting. It's not a classic, but it's not horrible either.

I was originally rooting for the movie to fail due to my hatred of McG, but I ended up liking it better than expected (I gave it a 7/10). I was not expecting a Tomatometer in the 30's.
 
I'm a bit surprised by the level of critical thrashing this movie is getting. It's not a classic, but it's not horrible either.

I was originally rooting for the movie to fail due to my hatred of McG, but I ended up liking it better than expected (I gave it a 7/10). I was not expecting a Tomatometer in the 30's.

Thing is though, it`s not really getting thrashed.

Most critics are more or less ambivalent towards it, calling it mediocre or bland. However, their 2.5 star or C+ scores are registered as negative. If you look at the average score it`s a 5.1 out of 10.

So its not like they`re calling it awful or the worst film of the summer. They just don`t think it`s very good. Which is how I feel as well­.
 
This is officially the second Watchmen now... mixed reviews.... not much critical acclaim
I doubt someone like Christian Bale who is so dedicated to his work would work in a truly terrible movie unless he did not read the script and agreed at the mere mention of Nolan...
I dunno, many movies go very bad in the editing room. You can easily save a mediocre script with judicious editing. Star Trek's story story really wasn't all that, but it was fun.

So now we have people actually embracing the original ending where Connor dies?

:dry:
I don't really see how terrible it is, although it's very similar to what was done in TDK - fooling the public for their own good.

It would've made a difference for the sequels. I don't think anyone wanted a robot Connor to run the resistance.
That's a good point though. :funny:
 
Got back a little while ago. I don't know what the critics are complaing about. I loved this movie!
 
It's not that it would have been a robot connor, its that it wouldn't have been connor at all. If somehow John did have a terminator body that would be a different story (but still worse than just having him be a regular human).
 
Actually, this was my main problem with the movie, it was billed as a war movie, but there was very little war in it. A couple of fight scenes, chase scenes, but no actual war like battle.

This is only the beginings of the war...It doesn't get intense until around 2029
 
A few times when bale was yelling...I thought back to his batman voice..funny to me
 
And yet he took the silly stupid elements from Charlie's Angels and put them into this film.

And for goodness sakes, who casts Michael Ironside? Of all the actors in the world why choose the biggest B-film hack out there.

Who looks at a guys resume and says....

"hmm let's see.... Highlander the Quckening, wow! Ah, Starship Troopers, impressive! Oh, and I see you were in Major Payne too! Gosh this is very, very impressive. You know what? You've got the job!"

Screw you man...Ironside has the coolest name in the history of actors....he sounds like a comic book character....
 
Screw you man...Ironside has the coolest name in the history of actors....he sounds like a comic book character....

He just was talking about how he felt about the guys acting ability and you are defending his name:huh:

I'm pretty sure nobody made fun of his name
 
The beginning of the war, and they've been fighting for like 20 years. Ok....:huh:

Just cause you've been fighting for 20 years doesn't mean that the war as started....it probably took them all that time to gather their forces and become a unified forced after...well....since everything was destroyed. I'm sure it would take some time to unify themselves after that... I doubt they were fighting when there was a nuke winter outside
 
SPOILERS:

I am a part of the resistance... the resistance which claims this movie is NOT as bad as people are making it out to be.

It's 11:49pm, thursday, may 21st, south florida, usa...

i saw the 9:20pm showing and just got home.

This movie was worth seeing.

The action was good.

The acting was good and the dialogue was NOT as bad/silly as some reviews have mentioned. No, I didn't think Bale or Worthington gave AMAZING performances, but I thought they did just fine with the script/scenes they were given. Some have said Bale's performance is "one-note"... well, yeah, with the scenes Bale is in there isn't really much else for him to do but act gruff, calculated, determined, and be a leader - the guy knows what must be done and will do it.

I thought the movie was INIFINITELY better than Terminator 3. Terminator 3 felt like a cash-in attempt on the franchise name and did not progress the storyline at all.... it felt like a T2 remake, but a T2-lite, and I didn't care for how Connor was a bada** bastard, juvenile delinquint kid in T2 and then a whiny, weakling guy in T3. T3 didn't seem like a sequel at all.

T: Salvation actually felt like a sequel to T1, T2. T3 should just be forgotten. Sure, T:S doesn't have the same mood/atmosphere of T1/T2, and it has the feel of a "just another action movie".... but at least the makers did an applause-worthy job on bringing in elements from all the T movies (Connor, Reese, much mention of the future, the past, Sarah Connor, her guidance, Skynet and its evolution, Arnold Cameo, etc.) - I felt like they made an effort to pay homage to the older films and to progress it with all that in mind.

I also liked Skynet's plan... how they used Marcus to draw Reese/Connor to them... how Marcus was an "infiltrator"... more human than machine just to get the humans to trust him just enough for him to carry out his mission without him even knowing he was doing it...... I thought that was cool.

Look, the movie is NOT as bad as people are making it out to be.

So far...as far as summer movies are concerned Star Trek is the best, then T:S, then Wolverine.
T:S is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay..better than Wolverine. If you paid to see Wolverine after reading negative reviews and negative hype-reaction and then choose NOT to see T:S based on the negative reviews and hype-reaction, that's just unfair and wrong.
 
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As much as I was kind of disappointed with this film, I can't say I wasn't entertained. Action was damn brilliant. Couple of the scenes, especially the beginning helicopter bit, gave off an Alfonso Curan vibe. There is two nice continuous shots in this movie, helicopter bit and the beginning of the blair/marcus chase scene, so juicy good.

I can't wait till they are up on youtube so I can watch over and over.
 
Before I start my review, let me first say I got flack from everyone when I would pop in and voice concern about the project. That I don't think we had a great director, script writers, like T3 this wasn't overtly necessary, and I can see it only disappointing in showing us this great struggle we pictured from T1 and T2. But, I told you all I'd give it a fair chance and be objective. After all, T1 and T2 are in my top 10 (maybe even top 5) Sci-Fi films ever. I have to fight back tears whenever I see the Terminator unit sacrifice himself in T2, and declare he knows why humans cry...yet he can't express that emotion. The first two films of this series are phenominal, and I was sad T3 kept my anticipation low. I love what this series could be, and wanted to see the best film possible, even if I didn't think we needed it. Now, spoiler time!!! Beware from here on!!!

Before I highlight the problem areas of this film, let me first give props:

-Sam Worrthington - His Marcus character was interesting and had some good moments. He played the part well.

-The action scenes look impressive and were kind of cool. I'll get more into this later, though.

-The film had good actors for the roles they played.

-The special effects are great, and 95% of the Terminator's they put in the film look cool. Also liked the scenery and sets.

Now, let me get into the problems, of which there are many:

-The film moves too fast and is choppy. I can tell where the topless scene was supposed to go, I can tell some violence was toned down in cutaways and when, and only the Marcus character is developed well. Connor's struggle I think needed more focus and the film needed to flesh the story out more in ways. They throw in too much action and too close together in most cases. Less is more sometimes.

-The Kyle Reese subplot...this needs particular focus away from even mentioning the rest of the plot. Theu have Skynet know that Reese is John's father. The machines can't kill John all these years. Here's an idea for you guys...DON'T SEND THE TERMINATOR AFTER SARAH IN THE FUTURE!!! It's because of that irony John is conceived, and I don't see how it makes any logical sense to have Skynet aware Reese is his father and their interference created John, and still send Terminators to the past. MAKES NO SENSE!!! You ruin the irony and John's ace in the hole by doing this. Bravo writers :up:

-The plot moves too fast and glosses over important details. I wanted to hear more of why Marcus was on death row. Yet, they completely ignore this once he is reawaken. Him confessing it would have made for a powerful scene. Would like to have seen John fleshed out more, and just more character and less explosions. Cameron's films are not Sci-Fi classics for the explosions. They're sci-fi classics for their examination into what makes us human...the violence served the story. In this film, the story serves the violence. Not a quality filmmaking principle.

-The film was too tame for this film (meaning the Future Wars needed to be more violent). I think this is inherently one area the film was dead wrong. The Future Wars is a WAR! The violence should be war level violence. When you make a war film overtly flashy, you take away the edge a bit. We have armies being battered by Terminators, human genocide going on, etc. and you don't show us any of the atrocities the machines are doing? You only hint at them. I am not a gore person normally, but in this case, it adds to the atmosphere. This is a war. Instead of one man walking around injured and such...give us some casualties and mangled bodies...show the heartless machines ripping humanity apart. You can say the film felt dark, but it easily could have been darker. Cameron made money with R-rated violence and sold toys at the same time...no reason to tone the film down.

I personally hope this is the last Terminator film. This film is not a good start to the future wars, and it won't magically be great again. This series has lost the ideals of the first 2 that made the series what it was...genius. Call me a hater all you want, but this film could easily have been better, but WB has shown with this and T3 they don't care about making quality Terminator films. They care about making a movie they can release in May for the summer. The series will never be great again with that mentality. I gave this film a chance, and was very open to liking it if it was good. That didn't happen. Unless Cameron gets hands on with the series again, I won't have any hype for future Terminator films.

Please let this be terminated at the Box Office :up:

4/10
 
The Kyle Reese subplot...this needs particular focus away from even mentioning the rest of the plot. Theu have Skynet know that Reese is John's father. The machines can't kill John all these years. Here's an idea for you guys...DON'T SEND THE TERMINATOR AFTER SARAH IN THE FUTURE!!! It's because of that irony John is conceived, and I don't see how it makes any logical sense to have Skynet aware Reese is his father and their interference created John, and still send Terminators to the past. MAKES NO SENSE!!! You ruin the irony and John's ace in the hole by doing this. Bravo writers
You are right. Besides this plothole, it makes more sense if Skynet AND the Resistance not know about Connor or Reese, or the man Connor is to become. For the Resistance it would be less: "we got to listen to him because he is the prophetic savior"

so much as

"we should listen to him because of what he has proven and accomplished"

In other words, he gains the respect of his kin through his action with no help or primed bias. It makes it more satisfying... It's too bad.

Granted, they do try to do that on some level... but the priming of bias (prophecy thing) does not help.
 
This film has taught me that most critics are ******s because this film was awesome. It's not the masterpiece that the James Cameron films are, and frankly the Terminator films never will be unless Cameron returns to the helm. However, this is the perfect summer blockbuster variation of Terminator, unlike the previous film.
 
You are right. Besides this plothole, it makes more sense if Skynet AND the Resistance not know about Connor or Reese, or the man Connor is to become. For the Resistance it would be less: "we got to listen to him because he is the prophetic savior"

so much as

"we should listen to him because of what he has proven and accomplished"

In other words, he gains the respect of his kin through his action with no help or primed bias. It makes it more satisfying... It's too bad.

Granted, they do try to do that on some level... but the priming of bias (prophecy thing) does not help.

Exactly. John should be a risk taker and decorated war hero, cause he knows he'll pull through. He knows the machines can't beat him. Cause he has the ace in the hole on the machines! The prophecy angle wasn't the right way to go, and this only made the time continuim problematic. They should of gone with the rise of John Connor, war hero...The Marcus film wasn't a bad idea, as his character was the only interesting one...but, I think the series should have done something more akin to this if they wanted a solid foundation. Sadly, we have a weak foundation for the Future Wars. It saddens me :csad:
 
That movie was horrible IMO

But it went all the way with the 80's schlock we enjoyed when the first Terminator came out. You get a dystopic future with cruel leaders, and extremely different societies. Advanced technology that tears through bodies. Barbaric fighting that touches man's primal instincts. That's all the stuff needed for a rated R sci-fi.
 
Just got back from seeing it.

I'll do a review of some sort a bit later.

I wanted to ask others something my gf brought to me and my friends attention as we were leaving.

Wasn't it kind of weak that the final scenes at Skynet how easily they were able to get in and out?

I know Marcus turned off one of the gun turrets to let Connor in and then when he's talking to the main computer I noticed he shuts some more things down. If so how was the
Arnold Terminator, the 1st T-800
up and running as well as the assembly line for the rest of the T-800s?

If they were still up and running as well as that T-600 watching over Kyle as he's about to be killed why wasn't there any army of T-600s guarding this place. This is one of Skynet's major complexes.

Just thought it was kind of weak that there weren't as many Terminators protecting one of their main bases.
 
This film has taught me that most critics are ******s because this film was awesome. It's not the masterpiece that the James Cameron films are, and frankly the Terminator films never will be unless Cameron returns to the helm. However, this is the perfect summer blockbuster variation of Terminator, unlike the previous film.
Apparently critics love Twilight over this film.

Maybe the fangirls made death threats by sending the critics home made felted fetuses :funny:
 
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