Endgame Thanos/The Mad Titan - Josh Brolin

[Iceman]

Discuss Thanos in Avengers 4. Thanos was a revelation as a villain in Infinity War, surpassing all my expectations. Can he solidify his legacy with the events of Avengers 4?

 

[THORin]

Um...he should die. But before he dies, he should somehow resurrect the Black Order, because I was robbed of a real Proxima Midnight and Corvus Glaive. And please bring back Ebony Maw! He was great!

 

[Iceman]

It's a shame they all died. They could have played a bigger part in this film. And Thanos is too powerful for many of the Avengers to engage so we need lower level enemies too.

 

[KevTravels]

We really need an Oscar nomination for Best Performance via CGI. He totally would get the nod and the win in March. Great performance.

 

[ZenTheAvenger]

It's a shame they all died. They could have played a bigger part in this film. And Thanos is too powerful for many of the Avengers to engage so we need lower level enemies too.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Black Order in Avengers 4 if time travel/alternate realities come in to play.

 

[Melpardus]

I'm sure there's more backstory to them than whatever was presented, but I didn't find myself really being interested in the Black Order outside of cool-looking henchmen, so I thought they served their story purpose more or less well enough.

I am willing to bet that Thanos is going to be end up being an ally in an "enemy of my enemy"-type deal, even if temporarily. I'm also willing to bet that he will not die.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I don't think Thanos is going to use henchmen in this movie now that he has all the Infinity Stones and accomplished his goal.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

I'm sure there's more backstory to them than whatever was presented, but I didn't find myself really being interested in the Black Order outside of cool-looking henchmen, so I thought they served their story purpose more or less well enough.

I am willing to bet that Thanos is going to be end up being an ally in an "enemy of my enemy"-type deal, even if temporarily. I'm also willing to bet that he will not die.

In their Collider Q&A, the Russo Bros said they had one draft where they went into some backstory for the Black Order but it ended up adding a lot of pages to the script, which would have added a lot of unnecessary complexity and time to the movie.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Loved the reference to Starlin's story with the scarecrow made of the armor.

I think that Thanos is going to still be the force they have to contend with. He does still possess all the Stones after all.

 

[Damkac]

I don't like that modern comics turned Thanos into cosmic psychopath who only cares about killing everything. Starlin's Thanos while cold and amoral was much more complex and interesting character. He even saved universe probably as many times as he tried to destroy it.

It was good idea that MCU went in the opposite direction to the comics and make Thanos more empathic that he ever was even in his hero days.
Would like it if Thanos is not dead after Endgame and in future he team up with the heroes to help them defeat even bigger threat than himself (Galactus?). If Adam Warlock is coming (nobody knows what is going on with GotG v3) I'd love to see him having relation with Thanos like he had in comics. They could try to deal with cosmic threats while the Avengers still hates Thanos and wants him dead.


My one issue is that Starmbreaker able not oly to kill Thanos but overpower the completed IG makes the Mad Titan not looks as invincible and threatening anymore.

 

[Melpardus]

Not sure how much this means to that end, but apparently the Russos (or the screenwriters, forget whom specifically) have stated that the only reason Thanos wasn't able to destroy Stormbreaker was because Thor managed to catch him by surprise and Thanos didn't know how to use the full potential power of the stones altogether. (I'm not sure why he didn't just turn it to bubbles.)

 

[Hannibal75]

I think killing Thanos after just two movies would be wasting an amazing character. Not to mention that he proved to be extremely popular among fans.

OTOH, if he is still alive at the end of "Endgame" that means that he will always be looming large over the MCU, no matter what else happens. Maybe he will be killed off, or be extremely weakened, only for another character to come in a post-credit scene (maybe in a future movie) and restore him to full power (that would be a neat way to introduce Mistress Death, if they intend to do so down the road).

 

[Iceman]

At least they were two huge films.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Eh, I think after Endgame, Thanos will never top what he has done in these movies. I am okay with him dying and us moving on to other threats. The MCU is more finite than comics. When you get 1000s of comics published a year, yeah better to keep him around. But when you're telling 3-4 stories per year only, appearances will be limited.

 

[FlareKnight]

I think they are fine to kill him off. He's too big a threat to keep around. Not like the MCU has been against killing off villains. Two very big movies and a sizable presence since he was teased in the first Avengers movie is enough. Safe to move onto other main threats and have him go out in this one.

Plus, I don't think anyone among the main cast is eager to keep alive the guy who wiped out half of all live in the universe.

 

[matt47]

exactly. quality or quantity. for thanos to still be such an incredible character in my mind, you have to end his journey soon.
plus i dont want anyone! to touch thanos other than the russos and the writers. this is their character imo.
seriously any other production team and we would've gotten the thanos from guardians of the galaxy. you know, exactly what you'd imagined thanos to be upon hearing of him in prior films. just a cliche.

anywhoo...just dont touch him after this I say!

 

[Iceman]

Eh, I think after Endgame, Thanos will never top what he has done in these movies. I am okay with him dying and us moving on to other threats. The MCU is more finite than comics. When you get 1000s of comics published a year, yeah better to keep him around. But when you're telling 3-4 stories per year only, appearances will be limited.

Agreed. In this case we will have seen the definitive Thanos and he will have completely been done justice so no complaints from me.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

 

[Aximili86]

Yeah, for the movies I'm fine with Thanos dying. Even sans-stones he seems too dangerous to be let to keep breathing after all this. No idea what they'll do as an ending here, but it won't bug me if he bites it in the MCU.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I just as excited to see Thanos again as I am the to see the main heroes and how all of this is going to go down. I know his role is smaller than in IW but I hope we still get plenty of awesome stuff from him.

 

[Aximili86]

I know his role is smaller than in IW

You know more than the rest of us then.

It'd stand to reason the movie's not more or less from his point of view the way IW was, more the aftermath from the perspective of the heroes, but I doubt he's exactly getting sidelined here. Thanos is still probably getting monster screentime factor.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

You know more than the rest of us then.

It'd stand to reason the movie's not more or less from his point of view the way IW was, more the aftermath from the perspective of the heroes, but I doubt he's exactly getting sidelined here. Thanos is still probably getting monster screentime factor.

As far I knew the Russo's confirmed his screen time was going to be smaller here than in IW, which is sort of expected, but that is what I was referring too.

 

[Fosterson]

You know more than the rest of us then.

It'd stand to reason the movie's not more or less from his point of view the way IW was, more the aftermath from the perspective of the heroes, but I doubt he's exactly getting sidelined here. Thanos is still probably getting monster screentime factor.

Y'know, there are some speculating that Thanos isn't even the main villain of this movie and that they might throw a curve ball and introduce Kang or Annihilus to be the main threat.

I think that's crazy personally, but it just goes to show how little we actually know for sure about this movie!

I personally can't see Thanos having an arc in this movie comparable to the one he had in IW. I'd guess that his role will be more similar to Loki's in TA or Ultron's in AoU; namely that of a traditional antagonist rather than the protagonist (like he was in IW).

 

[Aximili86]

It's always possible there's another villain, I tend to think probably not, but we haven't heard anything counter to that.

I just can't see Thanos being a secondary villain to someone else, what started out as a two-parter story (though they've distanced themselves from that label lately to be fair). If there's someone else that comes into play here, Thanos is still pretty much guaranteed to have a meaty part.

Unless they pull some total fakeout and the team kills him in the first act or something, subvert expectations. Seems unlikely though. Plus, how do you top Brolin's Thanos? Dude just close to single-handedly wrecking balled our favorite heroes and then wiped out half the universe. That kinda earns quite a bit of screentime/follow-through.

 

[Hannibal75]

It will be ultra-lame for Thanos to have just a cameo, especially after they teased something much more important for him with the "Thanos will return" title-card at the end of IW.