Endgame Thanos/The Mad Titan - Josh Brolin

I'm sure that Thanos won't be considered a secondary villain, but I can easily see his screen time being much less than in IW. Thanos was the driving force in IW - he ran through the plot like a tornado, and he was the direct conflict for the main characters.

He's not necessarily the direct conflict anymore. Undoing the snap is the main conflict. I imagine most of the film will be about that - about getting the machinery or the means to undo the snap. And then Thanos will come in at the end to defend his plan.

But it's very possible that Thanos is not going to a major driver of action in this movie, like he was in IW. This time, the Avengers are in control. We're following them wherever they go, as they try to discover the secret to undoing the snap.
 
He's not necessarily the direct conflict anymore. Undoing the snap is the main conflict. I imagine most of the film will be about that - about getting the machinery or the means to undo the snap. And then Thanos will come in at the end to defend his plan.


Well, you just said it yourself: Thanos is invested in stopping them from undoing the snap. Even if doing that doesn't necessarily dictate them seeking out and confronting him (though surely he's throwing down with at least part of the team again), if he knows they're trying to undo his accomplishment (from his perspective), he's not going to stand for that.

Seems pretty "prime antagonist" to me. That's not to say there's no room for another super-secret villain we've heard nothing of (*chants* Red Skull! Red Skull! Resurrected somehow! :oldrazz: - it'll never happen), but given the plotline and the motivations of both the Avengers and Thanos, seems that's pretty much gotta be the main event.
 
I've been thinking up all kinds of weird scenarios that we could see.
We all know time travel is likely in this ( no surprise there ), but what if the thanos of the past sees the AV's of the future, figures out they are there to get the stones, so he tries to stop them. He would figure if they are there to get the stones then his future self must have succeeded.
So the AVs then would not only have to deal with the thanos of the future who is chasing them, but also the one in the past as well.

The 2nd scenario is not likely, but what if thanos post snap regrets his actions
( mainly because of gamora ) and tries to stop his past self, ie, we would get thanos vs thanos as the AVs search for the stones.

The 3rd scenario, or something similar, is most likely imo.
One, perhaps two, AVs will die trying to stop thanos. Hulk will be enraged over it and puts on the stark gauntlet becoming the most powerful hulk we've ever seen.
He either kills or gravely injures thanos.
The snap is then reversed and the survivors see the fallen heroe(s).
A huge emotional scene follows.

Also, I really believe we will see another supreme being of some sort. The Beyonder? The Watcher? Eternity?
If they exist in this universe they would not stand by and do nothing. Maybe it's nothing but advice, but that's something.
I even read a theory once that all the stan lee cameos in every MCU film are of all the same character, the beyonder.
Now that one be one helluvs send off for him if that were the case.

Imagine a scene where the battle has returned to Earth, the AVs are losing again in a close one,
We all moan "not again..."

We then see an ederly man walk out onto the street in the middle of the battle, We think he is just confused.
IM cries out and rushes to save the elderly man from death or injury.
Upon closer view we see that it's stan lee.

He throws up a hand and IM stops feet from him, hovering.

They stare at each other for a moment.

IM - "you look familiar, have we met?"
Stan smiles and nods "lots of times tony, lots of times".

He then morphs into the beyonder.

IM to thanos as he points to the Beyonder. "Uh oh". "yeah, you're toast".

Thanos turns pale and for the first time we see real fear on his face.
Thanos bellows "You have never involved yourself before". "Why now?"
The Beyonder shrugs, "I like it here".

Sorry for the long post, I'm just excited.
 
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Well, you just said it yourself: Thanos is invested in stopping them from undoing the snap. Even if doing that doesn't necessarily dictate them seeking out and confronting him (though surely he's throwing down with at least part of the team again), if he knows they're trying to undo his accomplishment (from his perspective), he's not going to stand for that.

Seems pretty "prime antagonist" to me. That's not to say there's no room for another super-secret villain we've heard nothing of (*chants* Red Skull! Red Skull! Resurrected somehow! :oldrazz: - it'll never happen), but given the plotline and the motivations of both the Avengers and Thanos, seems that's pretty much gotta be the main event.

Agreed that Thanos will be the main physical opponent. I just think this movie could be more about the obstacle than the villain. The Avengers will certainly fight Thanos in Act 3, but before that? ... I think maybe not.
 
There were also those spoiler rumors out there indicating he's
destroyed all the stones & killed himself
by the time the team rocks up in the spaceship to confront him, in order to ruin any possibility of them undoing it (unbeknownst to Thanos there's a workaround through time travel with the quantum stuff).

Not sure I buy that, but it'd be pretty ballsy & cool if that pans out.
 
He deserves a lot of RESPECT for making Thanos pretty sympathetic.
 
I’m a little disappointed though to hear his presence in this movie isn’t as good as the last one. I guess it’s to be expected since the focus seems to back on the O6.
 
He was too generic in this movie, which was a disappointing come-down from his role in IW.
 
I still thought Brolin was great here, but yeah his presence didnt quite have the same impact it did in IW, although that could have something to do with the shift in focus away from his character. I loved how bloodthirsty and dangerous he was though.
 
I still thought Brolin was great here, but yeah his presence didnt quite have the same impact it did in IW, although that could have something to do with the shift in focus away from his character. I loved how bloodthirsty and dangerous he was though.
He was too generic in this movie, which was a disappointing come-down from his role in IW.

I attribute these to it being two different Thanos.

The Thanos in IWs had to struggle to get to his goal. He had henchmen try to get the stones for him and they failed, that created determination to do it himself. His goal was to fix the universe in his twisted way and he also had to earn the soul stone which added to his layer. He lost the other children for his goal and knew it was possibility. He knew what it was like to lose. This Thanos basically only lost teh battle of NY, he had it easy in that the Avengers collected everything for him. All he had to do was fight them and get it, he was not that determined and didn't truly watch his enemy(Avengers/GOTG) like IWs Thanos.
 
Brolin was still great as Thanos here imo. I see some complaints he wasn't up to the standard of Infinity War but honestly I don't think he could be, that was more his movie than the Avengers.

Plus he was different because he knew he'd won that's got to change him slightly, no having to collect and earn all of the stones just find out you already did it and they are all in one place for you now.

Loved his speech at the end about how it was wrong of him to leave half the life last time, that was one of the few times you got the sense he was angry.

His weapon was awesome as well did we ever get a name for it or explanation of what its made of?
 
Brolin was still great as Thanos here imo. I see some complaints he wasn't up to the standard of Infinity War but honestly I don't think he could be, that was more his movie than the Avengers.

Plus he was different because he knew he'd won that's got to change him slightly, no having to collect and earn all of the stones just find out you already did it and they are all in one place for you now.

Loved his speech at the end about how it was wrong of him to leave half the life last time, that was one of the few times you got the sense he was angry.

His weapon was awesome as well did we ever get a name for it or explanation of what its made of?

It's made of... Titanium.


...I shall walk away now.
 
Yeah that sword was badass and we even got to see a little more of his fighting skills that we only saw very briefly at the beginning of IW. It was very cool seeing Thanos in a different context here and Brolin still delivers a great performance. I just wish he had a little more screentime.
 
We all know time travel is likely in this ( no surprise there ), but what if the thanos of the past sees the AV's of the future, figures out they are there to get the stones, so he tries to stop them. He would figure if they are there to get the stones then his future self must have succeeded.
So the AVs then would not only have to deal with the thanos of the future who is chasing them, but also the one in the past as well.

Wow, you were almost completely spot on there, except Thanos in the present is dead by the time his past self shows up.
 
It's made of... Titanium.


...I shall walk away now.

Yeah that sword was badass and we even got to see a little more of his fighting skills that we only saw very briefly at the beginning of IW. It was very cool seeing Thanos in a different context here and Brolin still delivers a great performance. I just wish he had a little more screentime.

Yeah I loved the way he was spinning it to deflect stuff. Just the fact that it was tanking through Cap's shield had me thinking "What the hell is this thing made of?"
 



Yeah I loved the way he was spinning it to deflect stuff. Just the fact that it was tanking through Cap's shield had me thinking "What the hell is this thing made of?"

Yeah it was crazy how it was cutting through Cap's shield like butter. I wish they would have explained what it was made out of as well, but it had to be some kind of Uru metal like his armor, because I don't see how it could have cut through that vibranium shield otherwise.
 
Brolin killed it again as Thanos in this. But if he had less time here than IW well...That was no skin off my nose. This wasn't focused on him. Still, he was great again and I loved that he was at a point in his timeline when he came to Earth this film where he was actually annoyed at the Avengers and was going to enjoy laying waste to the planet. Great stuff.

That said... I think this should be it for Thanos for the foreseeable future. The story is done.
 
Yeah I loved the way he was spinning it to deflect stuff. Just the fact that it was tanking through Cap's shield had me thinking "What the hell is this thing made of?"
these are his best use of the double sword.

thanos really is the best there is when it comes to fighting skills. some may stand toe to toe against him in strength alone, but his skills are unmatched. examples are against captain marvel, when she had him on his knees but by removing the power stone he successfully knocked her out. another one is against captain america and thor. thor had the storm breaker facing thanos and cap came to assist but he also knocked both weapons thus knocking the two heroes down.
 
Brolin was still great as Thanos here imo. I see some complaints he wasn't up to the standard of Infinity War but honestly I don't think he could be, that was more his movie than the Avengers.

Plus he was different because he knew he'd won that's got to change him slightly, no having to collect and earn all of the stones just find out you already did it and they are all in one place for you now.

This exactly. Infinity War was Thanos's time to shine and it worked as it was really his movie. This time around, the Avengers are back at the forefront, and rightfully so.
In fact, I think at least a good hour passes between the time Thor kills Thanos in 2018 and the time we see 2014 Thanos. I appreciated that IW Thanos was a character that was actually sympathetic in an extreme way and the Endgame version let his arrogance get the best of him. He didn't have the same drive as the IW Thanos and that ultimately proved his undoing.
 
I like Thanos in this just as much as in IW. He was a total badass. They did nerf the heck out of Thanos but he still showed he's one of the most powerful character. Thanos is just so great.

I just don't like
the way Thanos die in the opening
He just seems so pathetic
 
I thought he did a fantastic job again. He didn’t have as much to work with this time but I loved actually seeing his skills on the battlefield.
 
I just don't like
the way Thanos die in the opening
He just seems so pathetic
He had no reason to fight back. His job was done. 2014 Thanos even said as much when he saw that from Nebula's memories. "That is destiny fulfilled." The only way he would have fought back was if he had no way of destroying the stones.
 

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