"That was not the way it was written": X3 writer on the movie

[Goddessreicho]

BTW it's ensemble

That's the only grammer mistake you could find. Jeeze, I left a trail of breadcrums.

 

[BMM]

I wanted Iceman to give at least one funny line. Is this too much to ask?

He tried to rip-off Pyro's line in X2 . . . "Don't ever do that again." Does that count?

 

[gambitfire]

Who's fault is that? Halle didn't pen her role.

Yes but i still don't put it past her that the dialogue written with the argument against the cure was not that bad it was mediocre at most IMO yet she still did not manage to capture the soul essence of Storm while speaking them....NO I DON'T MEAN A DAM ACCENT, Storm has the wiseness and Strength to her when she speaks it's presume it would be in her tone of voice (Since this is a comic book it's presumed ) and Halle just didn't do it for me, and even if she had been written better i don't think Halle can potray a strong storm. She comes off as too weak and helpless too me.

 

[ThE_PhOeNiX]

X4: Still Standing (?)

(cue Elton John 80s pop song)

Lol no even better. X4: The last scam.

 

[ntcrawler]

X3: Can't Stand

and speaking of origin scenes, not every character is cool enough to get one. Personally, I can't understand why they did one for Jean. It didn't add any new material to what was already stated in the dialogue by Xavier in the infirmary scene. If anything, Jean's origin scene as presented not only contradicted the first two movies but even contradicted what we saw in the rest of the X3 film. Leaving that out wouldn't have impacted the story much, only made it more consistent, at least per Penn and Kinberg's view. If that is their view. Cause now I'm not sure any more. THen again, those guys and their opinions seem to shift with the prevailing wind. If fans love it, they take credit. If fans hate it, they're quick to shift the blame and insist they TRIED making it the way fans wanted it. What gives?

 

[gambitfire]

That's the only grammer mistake you could find. Jeeze, I left a trail of breadcrums.

WELL YOU BOLDED THAT ONE FOR THE WORLD TOO SEE!!

 

[gambitfire]

He tried to rip-off Pyro's line in X2 . . . "Don't ever do that again." Does that count?

Another character ive hated from day 1.

In x1 it's forgivable since he's not important but in X2 i kinda wanted more out of him In X3 well by then i just didn't care for him. In his case i blame the writers. I think the character could of pulled of the real bobby drake.

 

[gambitfire]

Lol no even better. X4: The last scam.

ROTFLMAO!!

 

[ntcrawler]

He tried to rip-off Pyro's line in X2 . . . "Don't ever do that again." Does that count?

It didn't make Kitty laugh so it couldn't have been funny. I wanted Colossus to say more than one line. But I didn't get that either. I don't suppose any of the cut scenes have Colossus actually talking?

Ironic. How do you "write" a character who doesn't talk? :P

 

[flavio_lebeau]

X3: Can't Stand

and speaking of origin scenes, not every character is cool enough to get one. Personally, I can't understand why they did one for Jean. It didn't add any new material to what was already stated in the dialogue by Xavier in the infirmary scene. If anything, Jean's origin scene as presented not only contradicted the first two movies but even contradicted what we saw in the rest of the X3 film. Leaving that out wouldn't have impacted the story much, only made it more consistent, at least per Penn and Kinberg's view. If that is their view. Cause now I'm not sure any more. THen again, those guys and their opinions seem to shift with the prevailing wind. If fans love it, they take credit. If fans hate it, they're quick to shift the blame and insist they TRIED making it the way fans wanted it. What gives?

reading Storm's origin scene in the X1 script, it makes me so sad...it would be a wonderful scene...

 

[Goddessreicho]

Yes but i still don't put it past her that the dialogue written with the argument against the cure was not that bad it was mediocre at most IMO yet she still did not manage to capture the soul essence of Storm while speaking them....NO I DON'T MEAN A DAM ACCENT, Storm has the wiseness and Strength to her when she speaks it's presume it would be in her tone of voice (Since this is a comic book it's presumed ) and Halle just didn't do it for me, and even if she had been written better i don't think Halle can potray a strong storm. She comes off as too weak and helpless too me.

I think the bold proves my point. That is your opinon. If given an once of drama with purpose, Halle can pull through very well. Losing Isaiah, Dorthy Dandrige, Their eyes were watching God, anything but the sex scene in Monster's Ball, and (most prolly) the upcoming Thing's We Lost in the Fire, the scene with Nightcrawler, and that Spike Lee movie I can't remember, all prove that the woman can act.

IT DEPENDS ON THE SCRIPT. Which leaves us back to square one.

 

[gambitfire]

I think the bold proves my point. That is your opinon. If given an once of drama with purpose, Halle can pull through very well. Losing Isaiah, Dorthy Dandrige, Their eyes were watching God, anything but the sex scene in Monster's Ball, and (most prolly) the upcoming Thing's We Lost in the Fire, the scene with Nightcrawler, and that Spike Lee movie I can't remember, all prove that the woman can act.

IT DEPENDS ON THE SCRIPT. Which leaves us back to square one.

WHy are you telling me this I KNOW IT'S MY OPINION!!!

ive been posting IMO to clearly state that this is my opinion......... .

Anyways, when has Halle potrayed a strong character with a strong pressence? And in Monster's Ball she played a victim so no. IMO just so you don't forget?

She can act but not as a Meaningful Strong believable character once again just so you get it IMO!

 

[ThE_PhOeNiX]

OMG I agree 100% IMO lol.

 

[Goddessreicho]

I think the bold proves my point. That is your opinon. If given an once of drama with purpose, Halle can pull through very well. Losing Isaiah, Dorthy Dandrige, Their eyes were watching God, anything but the sex scene in Monster's Ball, and (most prolly) the upcoming Thing's We Lost in the Fire, the scene with Nightcrawler, and that Spike Lee movie I can't remember, all prove that the woman can act.

IT DEPENDS ON THE SCRIPT. Which leaves us back to square one.

All women who started out weak, but who gained the curage to speak up and be strong women.

Did you do your homework? That's it. Bad Gambitfire. Your not allowed to go outside and play before you post. Tsk tsk tsk.

 

[Goddessreicho]

Oh I forgot to add:

With the nothing that they turned Storm into, in another sequl, Halle actually is the right person to show that Storm has had enough. Show her leading differently than Scott, show her bond with Kitty (that was cut from X3), show her becoming an actual person.

I think that the other characters, besides Iceman, can be shown to come out of thier shells too. Like Colossus. Rogue gave up her claim to fame because she was to horny to think about anything but herself. Iceman already got his story told. But let's see some inner devolpment from people who were trampled in the studio's haste to tell all about Wolverine and his problem getting what he wants, which would be Jean. And that's the only reason why she was so prominate in the series not because she was an X-man.

 

[gambitfire]

OMG I agree 100% IMO lol.

Shut up

 

[gambitfire]

Oh I forgot to add:

With the nothing that they turned Storm into, in another sequl, Halle actually is the right person to show that Storm has had enough. Show her leading differently than Scott, show her bond with Kitty (that was cut from X3), show her becoming an actual person.

I think that the other characters, besides Iceman, can be shown to come out of thier shells too. Like Colossus. Rogue gave up her claim to fame because she was to horny to think about anything but herself. Iceman already got his story told. But let's see some inner devolpment from people who were trampled in the studio's haste to tell all about Wolverine and his problem getting what he wants, which would be Jean. And that's the only reason why she was so prominate in the series not because she was an X-man.

What? hold on....wait wait wait...

















ICEMAN HAD A STORY!?!

 

[muertevilla]

You know...they should just remake x3 the way it was supposed to be made and make it a-la-animatrix style...maybe throw in a few sentinal fights...and maybe...just maybe...take the pheonix saga into outer space...just a thought

 

[ThE_PhOeNiX]

Shut up

Lol sry i coulnt help myself.

 

[Goddessreicho]

ICEMAN HAD A STORY!?!

Yea don't you remember...he was gay and came out to his parents. No wait. That wasn't it. He was sensitive and came out to...no that wasn't it either. He wasn't funny and came out to his...dammit! That wasn't it either.

I KNOW! He was out of character and came out to his parents about it. That's what it was.

 

[WorthyStevens]

Zak Penn speaks briefly in the new issue of Total Film.

"The studio didn't want to do Pheonix, period. And I'm talking five months before filming began, they were like, "No, no, no, we're not going to do Pheonix, we're doing Magneto versus the X-Men." We felt confident we would win the fight. We lost, to be quite frank. If you see the first half of the movie, we won every fight, and if you see the second half, we did not win every fight.....that was not our choice and that was not the way it was written."

**** you Penn. You screwed up Angel and gave him **** to do. And you say you won every battle in the first half of the movie? Well then, why was Cyclops OUT OF THE PICTURE then? You did say before that you fought for him, did you not?

 

[gambitfire]

it's ok The Phoenix


Um phoenix in space.........i would love it but that's a whole trilogy on it's own and lord knows the world isn't ready for the original story to go on the silver screen.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

Yea don't you remember...he was gay and came out to his parents. No wait. That wasn't it. He was sensitive and came out to...no that wasn't it either. He wasn't funny and came out to his...dammit! That wasn't it either.

I KNOW! He was out of character and came out to his parents about it. That's what it was.

Bobby: Mom, dad, im...im..out of character...
Mom: So what? like this is any news. Everybody in this room including me and your dad is out of character. Oh, and in the next movie, that Art Professor will soon get out of character too!

 

[muertevilla]

it's ok The Phoenix


Um phoenix in space.........i would love it but that's a whole trilogy on it's own and lord knows the world isn't ready for the original story to go on the silver screen.

well i'm ready damnit hehe

 

[Goddessreicho]

Mom: Is there any way you can be...I dunno...in character?