Worried About X3? Post Your Misgivings Here

[Bat Andy]

The thing about Red Dragon was that it was a rehash of an older movie called Manhunter staring William Peterson of CSI fame. This might have been why Red Dragon didn't get quite the best showing.
The movie itself was done well so I have confidence that X-3 at least director wise will be a great movie.

 

[kytrigger]

Well, everyone seems to be saying that the movie will contain more dramatic and emotional scene's than action ones, and that is a big positive for me. There are other positive aspects as well, and as the movie gets closer i am starting to get a little bit excited.

But things like Cyclops dying, Beasts look, the run-time, etc could easily ruin the movie for me and outshine all of the positive aspects. In Simons latest answering session on the X-Verse, he basically says that none of the characters fate's were changed from the first draft to the final draft. Some changes were made while shooting, but they sound like minor one's. If Cyke does die i will be so pissed!!!!

Actually that's not what he said (at least if we're thinking of the same quote here). He said that none of the fates were changed at the last minute. When they started shooting the film the fates stayed the same as they had been in the re-writes.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Actually that's not what he said (at least if we're thinking of the same quote here). He said that none of the fates were changed at the last minute. When they started shooting the film the fates stayed the same as they had been in the re-writes.

It only sounded like they did minor changes in the re-writes though. I'm just so frustrated at all of the crap we've been hearing about Cyclops, he has always been one of favourite characters.

 

[Hugh'sMrs]

Actually that's not what he said (at least if we're thinking of the same quote here). He said that none of the fates were changed at the last minute. When they started shooting the film the fates stayed the same as they had been in the re-writes.

Here's his answer -

*Absolutely not. We did not change the fates of any characters at the last second. As you know, there are some deaths in X3. They may have changed over the early span of development (long before we started shooting), but they did not change during production or post-production.

To me that means if Scott's death was filmed during the initial production it wasn't changed during the reshoots.

Here's something else from that same Q&A -

4 So you arent worried about the book by Chris Claremont will give away any spoilers, you say it will be different but wont it give away deaths or things of that nature....I mean it has to be fairly simmiliar I would assume.

*Fairly similar, but still very distinct. Chris is a genius, and he was encouraged to remain loyal to the essence of the film, while following his own instincts with the story. Also, he only had access to the script, not the footage, so he doesn’t know what we shifted and changed while shooting.

Okay, Simon just said the fates of the characters were not changed from their original shooting script ---- the one Claremont is working from --- which to me means that the book will spoil who lives and who dies.

 

[X-Maniac]

Simon just said the fates of the characters were not changed from their original shooting script ---- the one Claremont is working from --- which to me means that the book will spoil who lives and who dies.

It would be very foolish to read the book before seeing the movie. Those who did with X2 have all regretted it, even though there were changes.

 

[aaron]

when does the book come out?

 

[Hugh'sMrs]

when does the book come out?

I think it's a couple of weeks before the movie.

 

[Hugh'sMrs]

It would be very foolish to read the book before seeing the movie. Those who did with X2 have all regretted it, even though there were changes.

Claremont's X2 novelization was so bloated and contained way too much of his own comic interpretation of the characters. Wolverine in the movies is NOT short. I read the book and wondered if Claremont had even seen the first film because the character descriptions were so wrong. I also didn't realize that he was the one who'd created the character of Rogue because his description of her in the book wasn't very flattering. I'm expecting the same overbloated prose and editorial errors in his X3 novelization.

 

[aaron]

I think it's a couple of weeks before the movie.

damn, im probably gonna be tempted to buy it

 

[X-Maniac]

damn, im probably gonna be tempted to buy it

Do what I do - buy it, then hide it away in a box somewhere till after the movie! I think you will spoil it totally if you read it first - things will be totally what you expected, or they will be totally not what you expected and you will be running comparisons in your brain when watching the movie.

I did that with Jurassis Park - I'd read the novel, then when i saw the movie, i was constantly thrown or disappointed or thinking things weren't how they were described or how I imagined them. It totally ruined my enjoyment. The opening scene of the novel was omitted altogether (it became the opening of the sequel) and the novel was so much more graphic and the dinosaurs more conspicuous... I ruined my enjoyment of the movie altogether!

 

[aaron]

Do what I do - buy it, then hide it away in a box somewhere till after the movie! I think you will spoil it totally if you read it first - things will be totally what you expected, or they will be totally not what you expected and you will be running comparisons in your brain when watching the movie.

I did that with Jurassis Park - I'd read the novel, then when i saw the movie, i was constantly thrown or disappointed or thinking things weren't how they were described or how I imagined them. It totally ruined my enjoyment. The opening scene of the novel was omitted altogether (it became the opening of the sequel) and the novel was so much more graphic and the dinosaurs more conspicuous... I ruined my enjoyment of the movie altogether!

hmmm thanks, ill buy it and read after ive seen it

 

[invincible mann]

jurassic park was based on the novel
X3 the novel is based on the movie
i think there is a difference

 

[X-Maniac]

jurassic park was based on the novel
X3 the novel is based on the movie
i think there is a difference

Well, yes, that is a difference. But the result will be the same - things will be different in some places, the same in others. Do you want to just enjoy the movie or do you want to be sitting there thinking 'oh that wasn't like the book', 'oh that is exactly like the book', 'oh that part isn't in the book', 'oh i wish this part was like the book'....

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Why do we need the book for spoilers when we have the Internet LOL

 

[kytrigger]

Here's his answer -

*Absolutely not. We did not change the fates of any characters at the last second. As you know, there are some deaths in X3. They may have changed over the early span of development (long before we started shooting), but they did not change during production or post-production.

To me that means if Scott's death was filmed during the initial production it wasn't changed during the reshoots.

Here's something else from that same Q&A -

4 So you arent worried about the book by Chris Claremont will give away any spoilers, you say it will be different but wont it give away deaths or things of that nature....I mean it has to be fairly simmiliar I would assume.

*Fairly similar, but still very distinct. Chris is a genius, and he was encouraged to remain loyal to the essence of the film, while following his own instincts with the story. Also, he only had access to the script, not the footage, so he doesn’t know what we shifted and changed while shooting.

Okay, Simon just said the fates of the characters were not changed from their original shooting script ---- the one Claremont is working from --- which to me means that the book will spoil who lives and who dies.

I see what you are saying that you think it means they didn't change Cyke's death (or anyone's death) during filming, but I was just commenting on the part that said "they may have changed over the early span of development" so that you never know who will live and who will die.

 

[X-Maniac]

Not really a misgiving about X3 here.. but maybe the place to make this point... If X3 turns out to be fantastically excellent, i would then hope for recuts of X1 and X2.. Bryan Singer is busy with SR, the possible SR sequel and then Logan's Run... I wonder if he'd allow Brett to go back and make new versions of X1 and X2 using all the available material, to produce a special seamless trilogy box set where the tone of X1 and X2 was precisely matched to X3, cut scenes were added in, and digital FX adjusted...

 

[hulkamania85]

OP talked about Fantastic Four. Am I the only one who thought that film was okay?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Not really a misgiving about X3 here.. but maybe the place to make this point... If X3 turns out to be fantastically excellent, i would then hope for recuts of X1 and X2.. Bryan Singer is busy with SR, the possible SR sequel and then Logan's Run... I wonder if he'd allow Brett to go back and make new versions of X1 and X2 using all the available material, to produce a special seamless trilogy box set where the tone of X1 and X2 was precisely matched to X3, cut scenes were added in, and digital FX adjusted...

I doubt Brett would do that to be honest, dont think he would mess with a friends work. And if X3 does turn out to be great, he wont be able to move for a month because i will constantly kissing his ass!!!!

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Zak Penn said in his most recent Q & A that the movie will be under two hours, how the **** please, this is a bad decision.

 

[WorthyStevens]

Zak Penn said in his most recent Q & A that the movie will be under two hours, how the **** please, this is a bad decision.

No...

He said it won't be as long as 2 1/2 hours...

 

[BMM]

Not really a misgiving about X3 here.. but maybe the place to make this point... If X3 turns out to be fantastically excellent, i would then hope for recuts of X1 and X2.. Bryan Singer is busy with SR, the possible SR sequel and then Logan's Run... I wonder if he'd allow Brett to go back and make new versions of X1 and X2 using all the available material, to produce a special seamless trilogy box set where the tone of X1 and X2 was precisely matched to X3, cut scenes were added in, and digital FX adjusted...

If anything X3 should be matching the tone of X-Men and X2--not the other way around. I don't think there's anything wrong with the previous two films nor do I think re-cut versions of them should be allowed, especially by anyone else other than the original director or creative team. It is the job of the current team to ensure that the tone of X3 matches the tone of X-Men and X2 (which I don't think there seems to be a problem with thus far), and if they are unable to accomplish that, then this is X3's problem and not the problem of the other two.

In so far as special effects, I don't think they need to be adjusted. I think they're fine just the way they are.

 

[cyke93]

like many here, cyclops remains on priority since he's prime cut for the chopping block. there's a lot of hoopla if he's going to die or not in the film.. just look at the cyclops thread .. its very lively there. i think he will die just like the AICN leaked script. and even if he doesn't die as many think, we already know this his role will be limited anyways. so i fear we will see him even less than in x2. and this is especially a shame since we have phoenix there.. lord knows i will try my best to stay positive about this film and focus on the new characters such as angel and beast and the sentinals.

it seems that storm will be given time to shine, which i've come to terms with especially since she hasn't done much either in x1 or x2, so yeah let the storm fans have their fun. but i hope this doesnt become another logan centered film like the last 2, i mean the guy is getting his own spinoff, i hope we have time to get to know beast and angel at least.

 

[Enlight]

The only misgivings I have is the one I had with the previous two. I would like to have a full complete x-men movie. The other movies were great but the lack that feeling. X1 was wolverine and rouge. X2 Wolverine and Jean with a touch of x-kids. I don't wont X3 to be a Wolverine and Jean movie too. I want a X-men movie.

 

[cyke93]

in 20 years when thet revisit xmen, i hope they bring it old school and start with the 5 original x-men

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

No...

He said it won't be as long as 2 1/2 hours...

No the question was 'Will the movie be 2-21/2 hours long, to which he basically replied, it wont be that long, he didnt specify which one so he meant both.