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Is it okay for ANYONE to bring their morals on the job with them (and forcing them on everyone around them)? THAT is the question you need to be asking. ;)

jag


You cannot separate one's morals from their decision making on the job. That's unreasonable. I don't expect everyone to believe like I do. But what I'm seeing are people trying to force me into the way they "think".
 
yeah, that's what I mean.
because Jesus never said that the OT was flawed or corrupt, why wouldn't he include that little tidbit?
infact he pretty much says "I didn't come here to destroy the law....."blah, blah , blah.

it just confuses me.
It is confusing, but I think he meant (and this is just my opinion) that he meant he was protecting those good things God said, not the things people said God said to justify their own wrongdoing. The Commandments were given to bring the people closer to God, but then you had people taking those laws and breaking them down into legalistic little bits. I don't think Jesus would agree that it was okay for his Jews to kill off women and children, of all the prophets he never led a war and was never really violent (there was that temple thing of course). If Jesus had agreed with the warlike tactics of men, his ministry would have looked very different. I think he presented a more passive view of God because he was trying to correct what was going wrong in how the people felt about God.
 
it's not a matter of what I call it.
it's a matter of what you would call it were you not the subject, in other words, I always ask people to be objective about their positions and they can seldom comply,




:huh: if they are issues of organized religion, then, they ARE issues of religion.
but yeah....whatev.

I agree, Mr. Sparkle, that we all should be truthful and go "outside of ourselves" when we're talking about anything. (I'm not saying that Matt isn't doing this, though.)


I've said this before, but I guess it won't hurt to say it again. The problem is religion. Yes, there are issues with organized religion, and they are issues of religion. But, if we agree that God is a living God, and that his word is the living word, than who really operates and dictates the church? Men? Thats the problem, like I said before. The problem is men. The problem is us. The problem, is me. I'm faulty. I can have ego. I can be selfish--as are all of us, at times. And, if you don't believe that God is a living God, well then there's no more point in me explaining myself.

If, lets just say, I decided I think it'd be really cool if I became a pastor. Lets say I decide to start a new church or lead an existing church. Lets say I come up with a constitution, and set up distinct beliefes. Then, lets just say I preach my first sermon, saying what I wanna say in accordance with God's word, because I think it's important for that Sunday. Let's just say I keep doing this throughout my tenure.

Before you know it, you have another church run by men, and while I won't say that they won't do some good, I will say that such a church will cause way too much harm. I've seen it. In that case, whether I'm aware of it or not, the church isn't grounded in God, its inspired by God, and modeled/run by me. My first mistake would have been to just become a pastor, without being called to be one. Not all will be pastors. In this moche case, I didn't seek God in anything. I didn't look for his input. All that ego, selfishness, imperfectness, and flawed construct will manifest itself within the church. It will show, because that is that church.

Anyway, I hope not to come off all preachy, or heavy handed, because thats not where my heart is, honestly. I don't pretend to know everything. I'm not saying everyone has to believe this.


On another note, please stop bashing eachother. I know this is a sensitive subject, but it's getting a little ridiculous.
 
Is it okay for ANYONE to bring their morals on the job with them (and forcing them on everyone around them)? THAT is the question you need to be asking. ;)

jag


No, shoving your morals down other people's throats isn't right. There's a difference between standing up for what you believe in/walking the walk, and belittleing everyone around you for not having your morals.
 
You cannot separate one's morals from their decision making on the job. That's unreasonable. I don't expect everyone to believe like I do. But what I'm seeing are people trying to force me into the way they "think".

Sure you can. Just because you can't seperate the two, doesn't mean others can't.
 
Sure you can. Just because you can't seperate the two, doesn't mean others can't.


I think what Slim meant, was that if you say you believe in something, then that evidence should be seen in everything you do--including your job. If there is a constant distinct seperation between who you are at work, and who you are somewhere else, you are a hypocrite. You are who you are, no matter where you are. But I also see what you're trying to say, Matt.
 
You cannot separate one's morals from their decision making on the job. That's unreasonable. I don't expect everyone to believe like I do. But what I'm seeing are people trying to force me into the way they "think".

It doesn't feel very good. Doesn't it? Now try living your whole life like that. :up:

jag
 
You cannot separate one's morals from their decision making on the job. That's unreasonable. I don't expect everyone to believe like I do. But what I'm seeing are people trying to force me into the way they "think".

sounds wrong doesn't it?:oldrazz:
I've always told you, the difference between us is that while I don't agree with you, I would never expect you to stop praying, or living your life the way you wish as long as you don't hurt anyone.
on the other hand you WOULD expect me and other people to live by YOUR beliefs, regardless.
 
But what I'm seeing are people trying to force me into the way they "think".
aHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You mean like when people tell to gay people who want to get married that God intended marriage only between men and women?

Their invisible/inaudible/intangible blood-thirsty pro-rape, pro-slavery, pro-murder, pro-lying psycho War-God doesn't want gay people to be in legally acknowledged life-long commitments, so they don't get to be?

You mean like that?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
You cannot separate one's morals from their decision making on the job. That's unreasonable. I don't expect everyone to believe like I do. But what I'm seeing are people trying to force me into the way they "think".
:dry:

Okay, even ignoring the bold font, whose irony has just punched me in the goddamn face: tell me again why it's not okay for an atheist to be president, but it's perfectly acceptable for a Christian to be president. Hell, for that matter your logic suggests that nobody of any other religion should be president.
 
Best episode ever next to the original Powdered Toast Man episode and The Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen.

No, the best one was about the fearsome, fearal....CROCOSTIMPY!!!! :eek: I believe it was sponsored by Log(tm). All kids love Log(tm)!

jag
 
That kid's got some big-ass hands, Matt. It's troublesome. (I love that little bit from Ren & Stimpy).

jag
 
Yep our schools sure have improved since they took those elements out, haven't they? :yay:


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The question that arises after a school shooting is, "Why did this happen?" Nobody seems to know. Experts give opinions. They say that kids who shoot kids are victims themselves. They say that they have been hurt, and therefor harbor hatred which manifests itself in a murderous rage.
But there is another reason kids kill kids. In the 1960's, authorities saw fit to remove the Ten Commandments from the walls of our schools. It seems that they didn't like our youth being given moral guidelines, such as "You shall not lie," "You shall not steal," and "You shall not kill."
No doubt they thought that they were liberating a generation. It worked. We now have a generation who feels that they have the liberty to lie, steal, and even kill, without qualms of conscience. We, as a nation, must bear some of the responsibility for school shootings. After all, who is to blame when moral light is removed-- those who remove the light, or those who stumble in the darkness? A wise man once said, "First, I fear God. Next, I fear him who fears Him not." To "fear" God means to judge every thought and action in the light of God's approval or disapproval. The First Commandment. "I am the Lord your God, you shall have no other gods before Me" means that we should love God above all else, and love our neighbor as much as we love ourselves. Someone who fears God will not lie to, steal from, or kill his neighbor. But a person who doesn't fear God will esteem his own happiness to be of greater importance than God's favor. He will lie, steal and even commit murder.

Yep...our kids are much better off.....


http://michellemalkin.com/2005/05/25/mommy-whats-a-rainbow-party/

http://www.keystosaferschools.com/Map_School_Shootings.htm

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2007-10-20-teachermisconduct_N.htm
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what happened to that idea of personal responsibility you republicans are always going on about?

Devout???
And he's okay with killing unborn babies??

He's okay with same sex marriage??


How devout can you you be when you stray so far from the basic teaching of your faith?? Nowhere does God condone such activites.

1) just because someone wants to keep the government out of the personal decisions a person or couple makes doesn't mean he necessarily has to like those decisions. i'm pro-choice but i don't necessarily like the idea of abortion, except in extreme cases.

2) what does denying a happy, healthy couple the same rights as the rest of society have to do with jesus' teachings?

3) do these two things outrank issues like helping the poor or bringing peace to the world? because i always thought those ranked a bit higher in jesus' teachings than these two wedge issues.

4) are you saying that, with what little we know about his personal religious beliefs, he's less of a christian than you because he sets his belief in certain teachings in a different priority structure than yours?

Is it okay for an atheist to bring "his" morals on the job with him??

holding morals is fine. everyone's got their own set. it's the legislating of those morals that can cause trouble. for instance, it affects the lives of gay people to be denied the right to legally marry much more than it does the lives of straight people, who aren't affected in the slightest when gays marry. the basis for denying that privilege is from someone's preconceived notion of morality that tells them it's wrong. government officials are not required to legislate morality. their job is to uphold the rule of law, not their own set of personal rules.

You cannot separate one's morals from their decision making on the job. That's unreasonable. I don't expect everyone to believe like I do. But what I'm seeing are people trying to force me into the way they "think".

a good leader should be able to set aside their personal beliefs and decide what's right for the country as a whole, while adhering to the laws in place.
 

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