The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 1

[Neno_Kos]

I agree, marketing was mistake. Spending so much money was apsurd thing to do. That amount of money they could invest into devolping some new franchise. But i think movie will earn amount of money as you Sisko said (890 million dollars), unless it really something magical happens. I really hoped for billion but it seems i was too optimistic.

 

[Picard Sisko]

The question is, what would it take for Spider-Man go back to Marvel?

 

[JOE]

It would take an alternate reality. Or for Sony Pictures to go broke, the alternate universe thing is more likely.

 

[Spider-Ock]

Okay, so in order for sony to really make a profit, TASM2 has to earn about $890 million WW. Not going to happen.

Yup. It's a pretty slim possibility.

 

[GenUsername]

I know right? They could have refrained from showing most of the major sequences in the movie. You know, have the goblin as a surprise. And maybe, they could have spent some of that 190 million into an action scene.

With Disney owning the toys the goblin would be still be everywhere like he is now. Disney don't gain anything if Sony choose to not show the Goblin so they would show him off for them.

 

[Tony Stark]

If this movie opens less than Cap 2 is it the summer's first official bomb?

This is all surreal to me. I never thought I'd live to see Spidey being such a disappointment, but it's happened to Batman and Superman before, so I guess it shouldn't be a shock.

 

[Picard Sisko]

It would take an alternate reality. Or for Sony Pictures to go broke, the alternate universe thing is more likely.

IDK if we would need an alternate reality for that to happen. lol

I think if box office revenue continues to decline then sony will HAVE to sell it. Sony isn't doing too well overall so we'll see.

 

[Picard Sisko]

If this movie opens less than Cap 2 is it the summer's first official bomb?

This is all surreal to me. I never thought I'd live to see Spidey being such a disappointment, but it's happened to Batman and Superman before, so I guess it shouldn't be a shock.

It wouldn't be a bomb (let's be honest here, if it makes $600-700 million that isn't really bad) but it would show the beginning of the downfall of Sony's Spider-Man franchise (in terms of B.O. revenue). Also considering that Sony spent over $400 million on this film, they would need it to make more money.

 

[GenUsername]

If this movie opens less than Cap 2 is it the summer's first official bomb?

This is all surreal to me. I never thought I'd live to see Spidey being such a disappointment, but it's happened to Batman and Superman before, so I guess it shouldn't be a shock.

No. If the film grosses less than the first WW , it would be a HUGE disappointment (it seems to be on par with the first, but it's too early to tell).

if it grosses less than Captain America WW it would be an embarrassment (btw Cap seems locked to gross around $700 mil). Head would role.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

The question is, what would it take for Spider-Man go back to Marvel?

For this to bomb like Hiroshima. Bit of a cruel way to put it, but its true. As of right now, I think Spider-Man is all they have going for them.

 

[Picard Sisko]

For this to bomb like Hiroshima. Bit of a cruel way to put it, but its true. As of right now, I think Spider-Man is all they have going for them.

Sony better put less money into marketing next time, otherwise they won't profit much from these Spider-Man movies.

 

[GenUsername]

For this to bomb like Hiroshima. Bit of a cruel way to put it, but its true. As of right now, I think Spider-Man is all they have going for them.

They have Bond too but lord knows how the revenue from that is split up (Fox seem to have DVD rights to the franchise for some reason).

Marvel could drop a nice cold $1.5 billion + 8% of the final gross of all future Spidey movies, to get him back.

 

[Neno_Kos]

Sony better put less money into marketing next time, otherwise they won't profit much from these Spider-Man movies.

i think even movie would profit much from that marketing was bad, they showed entire movie already, everything, we just need to see dialogue of story really.

 

[Picard Sisko]

The box office gross wouldn't have to be so high if they spent less on marketing. $180 million is a bit extreme.

 

[Tony Stark]

They have Bond too but lord knows how the revenue from that is split up (Fox seem to have DVD rights to the franchise for some reason).

Marvel could drop a nice cold $1.5 billion + 8% of the final gross of all future Spidey movies, to get him back.

MGM/UA, still has the rights to the films, Sony has the distribution rights to the film, Fox has the DVD rights. It's a weird mess, but MGM was on the verge of going belly up.

 

[Perry9]

They have Bond too but lord knows how the revenue from that is split up (Fox seem to have DVD rights to the franchise for some reason).

Marvel could drop a nice cold $1.5 billion + 8% of the final gross of all future Spidey movies, to get him back.

Yeah, there is no way they are going to do that. They already have a very successful franchise and even John Campea explained that Disney wouldn't get a dime more if they put Spider-man in the Avengers.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Sony better put less money into marketing next time, otherwise they won't profit much from these Spider-Man movies.

Not only the marketing, but CGI too. But yeah, marketing is everywhere, I can't go anywhere without seeing some TASM2 stuff (which is cool in a way, because some of the store logos are kinda sweet...)

 

[GenUsername]

The box office gross wouldn't have to be so high if they spent less on marketing. $180 million is a bit extreme.

They should have done what WB did with MOS and pack the movie full of products placement. But Sony decided to only use it for free ads for old versions of their tech.

And google instead of bing.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Yeah, there is no way they are going to do that. They already have a very successful franchise and even John Campea explained that Disney wouldn't get a dime more if they put Spider-man in the Avengers.

Which is why if Spider-Man ever ended up back at Marvel/Disney, it would only be because sony was willing to sell the character back for a smaller profit or just let the rights revert back by not making any movies (like with Daredevil).

Not only the marketing, but CGI too. But yeah, marketing is everywhere, I can't go anywhere without seeing some TASM2 stuff (which is cool in a way, because some of the store logos are kinda sweet...)

I think some of the marketing was very good (the USPS trucks for example), but making 12 trailers was unnecessary. Have your two main theatrical trailers and maybe a few featurettes and let it be. They wasted money by showing the times square clip on New Year's (it was maybe 30-40 seconds and poorly edited).

 

[GenUsername]

Yeah, there is no way they are going to do that. They already have a very successful franchise and even John Campea explained that Disney wouldn't get a dime more if they put Spider-man in the Avengers.

We now live in a time Where Captain America is about to gross more than Superman. You're right, Marvel really don't need Spidey

 

[Tony Stark]

It wouldn't be a bomb (let's be honest here, if it makes $600-700 million that isn't really bad) but it would show the beginning of the downfall of Sony's Spider-Man franchise (in terms of B.O. revenue). Also considering that Sony spent over $400 million on this film, they would need it to make more money.

I think it shows to me the audience maturity with these films. Being "better than Spider-man 3" isn't enough. Again I hate to give a funeral to the film before I've even seen it, but with these tepid international numbers, it's hard to believe what I'm seeing. Maybe the domestic response will be very good, but it's not going to get help from positive reviews.

I think MoS benefitted over Superman Returns, because while not terrible, Returns was just really boring. I wasn't a fan of MoS, but it is watchable and enjoyable, can't really say the same for Returns.

Spidey 3 wasn't terrible. It wasn't great, but it was watchable and there were some moments that were dare I say brilliant (like Sandman forming for the first time, really one of the most touching and terrifying moments in Superhero films). On the other hand you've got some of the worst stuff going on here, like Emo Peter, the disco dancing, and Kirsten Dunst who was just flat out annoying in this film.

On paper TASM2 would seem to have everything going for it, but again it seems like another case of too much going on. I have a feeling I'll like electro better than anything in this film. I don't think I'll like the goblin interpretation.

What's sad is I really like Garfield as Peter Parker.

 

[Tony Stark]

We now live in a time Where Captain America is about to gross more than Superman. You're right, Marvel really don't need Spidey

They don't need him, but if they had the opportunity to have Spider-man, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor and the Hulk all in the same film? Game over baby!

 

[Picard Sisko]

I think Spider-Man 3 was pretty terrible although it is very watchable. But a lot of people I talk to (people I would consider to be part of the GA), still tell me that they want the Raimi films back and think Tobey is the "true" Spider-Man and have no interest in this series. Kind of a shame really.

 

[Picard Sisko]

They don't need him, but if they had the opportunity to have Spider-man, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor and the Hulk all in the same film? Game over baby!

If they got Spider-Man back then I'd hope that they would find a way to fit him in with their current plans for the MCU. IDK if it would greatly impact their B.O. revenue (possibly would be the highest grossing film of its time).

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I think some of the marketing was very good (the USPS trucks for example), but making 12 trailers was unnecessary. Have your two main theatrical trailers and maybe a few featurettes and let it be. They wasted money by showing the times square clip on New Year's (it was maybe 30-40 seconds and poorly edited).

Exactly! Don't forget the billions of posters they've put out too. This movie will make money because Spider-Man's name alone...but you can't put total faith in it because of name. Also the editing and direction will probably hurt the BO intake of this film too. If this film can't recoup, kiss that S6 and Venom film goodbye, and then (from what I hear about the film being mostly set up for S6) this whole film was a waste.