The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

[Joe_Kickass]

Didn't Sony really need for this movie to do well to make up for Paul WS Anderson's (urgh) Pompeii?

 

[Mysteryman]

The achievements of SM1 cannot be understated .
Over 100 million in its first three days , the first movie to accomplish that .
No holiday weekend .
No 3D .
Simply remarkable .
And , it was not simply a case of kids dragging their parents to the theatre.
More likely , it was the other way around .
Their parents grew up with Spider-Man and they wanted to see him on the big screen very badly .
I have always felt that the success of SM1 was generational.
Over time, some of that intense excitement was lost .
While they both had their good qualities SM3 and ASM were a bit more flawed than the first two films , at least apparently in the minds of the GA.
I am looking forward to the next two films in the franchise.
I have not seen ASM2 yet .

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It's a mystery anyway, 750-800 M WW is the target, it might have made a billion a couple of years ago who knows.

According to who? You seem to be in straight TASM2 damage control and I am not sure why.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Didn't Sony really need for this movie to do well to make up for Paul WS Anderson's (urgh) Pompeii?

Sony needs this film to do well to keep them in business.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Winter Soldier did 36.9mil in a way worse release date.

 

[Mysteryman]

I agree. If reviews didn't matter I think we'd have seen Cap make a little less and Spidey make a fair amount more.

Reviews definitely fueled Caps success .
The good word was practically everywhere .

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Winter Soldier did 36.9mil in a way worse release date.

Without Spider-Man.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Without Spider-Man.

Exactly.

Also the 12 year old original opened with 39mil in the exact same slot.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

According to who? You seem to be in straight TASM2 damage control and I am not sure why.

Yeah, no comment. Otherwise, it's not gonna do much more than 220 or 230 with Neighbors & Godzilla.

 

[Eddie]

According to who? You seem to be in straight TASM2 damage control and I am not sure why.

AVI?!

Seriously, though, I think we can all acknowledge that any numbers comparable to the previous film are NOT what Sony was going for. They spent more on the production budget and WAY more on the marketing budget. You don't spend significantly more money without expecting significantly more money at the box office. I'd be willing to bet that Sony executives thought this was going to be a billion dollar earner.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Exactly.

Also the 12 year old original opened with 39mil in the exact same slot.

And with inflation what would $39 million equal to?

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Of course not, they were expecting 1 billion. By the way, I can't find the marketing budget for TASM, what was it? Marketing budgets are usually not given as solid numbers. About the inflation, a lot of the old movies from franchises would have done more than some of the sequels today.

Spider-Man is just not as popular as he once was, I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.

 

[chaseter]

35.5mil is the Friday number according to boxoffice.com.

Ouchies

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

And with inflation what would $39 million equal to?

I don't know. An article would have to tell me that information.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I don't know. An article would have to tell me that information.

$39 million from 2002 is the equivalent to $51 million today.

 

[ares834]

And with inflation what would $39 million equal to?

Around 51 mill. And that's without adjusting for 3D.

Edit: ninjaed

 

[Mysteryman]

Exactly.

Also the 12 year old original opened with 39mil in the exact same slot.

Yep .
12 years ago today in fact .
Which is why I mentioned it in my previous post .
Feeling a little nostalgia for the good old days.

 

[Eddie]

I have no idea what the marketing budget was for TASM, but it probably wasn't as ridiculously high as the sequel. I think the only reason we've heard about the marketing budget for TASM2 is that it was so much higher than usual. They're usually not reported the way this film's was. I don't think Spider-Man (the character) is any less popular than any of the other Marvel heroes, either. His comic relaunch is doing well, his cartoon is doing well, and his merchandise is everywhere. In my area, there has consistently been more Spidey merch available than even Iron Man. Spider-Man's films may not be quite as popular as they once were, but that's on Sony. Ironically enough, Disney is having tons of success with the character.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yep .
12 years ago today in fact .
Which is why I mentioned it in my previous post .
Feeling a little nostalgia for the good old days.

I was 17 when the first film came out. Spoiler alert, I'm almost 30.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Yeah, 2002, the good old days when real, "serious", big superhero movies were starting, Spidey was the king. Spidey is not the king anymore with the MCU. I've always dreamed of Spidey joining the Avengers, I wish it could happen.

@Eddie: yeah, you usually never hear about marketing budgets, and surprise, you do here. Sony should never have sold the merchandising rights, but they had to or something, no? I don't remember.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Of course not, they were expecting 1 billion. By the way, I can't find the marketing budget for TASM, what was it? Marketing budgets are usually not given as solid numbers. About the inflation, a lot of the old movies from franchises would have done more than some of the sequels today.

Spider-Man is just not as popular as he once was, I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.

What is hard to understand is you seem to think it is simply because there are other superhero films. Not that perhaps Spider-Man is falling because his movies aren't good, while other characters are rocking it. As if quality is a complete afterthought, even while all the polls, from critics to fans, indicate that aren't so hot on these films.

Sony needs to look in the mirror and realize this is, "me, not you" situation. The fans are breaking up because of the movies, not because they suddenly don't like Spider-Man.

I was 17 when the first film came out. Spoiler alert, I'm almost 30.

Like fine wine. t:

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Already posted (sort of), but:

"TASM2 scored all-time record opening day in HK, Indonesia & Malaysia. Record opening day for any US film in India.
— Gitesh Pandya (@giteshpandya) May 3, 2014"

Indonesia too, Labor Day holidays, but still, I'll take it !

@Darth: If you really think the huge advent of the MCU universe & movies doesn't take away some of the spotlight from Spider-Man, I think you're really fooling yourself. Agree to disagree on this one. THERE WAS ZERO COMPETITION back when the first Spidey came out, not much more (whether it was the X-Men movies or else) when Spidey 2 or 3 did. There was no MCU yet.

 

[STARMAN]

There's an old article from box office mojo from 2005 after the release of Batman Begins. It talks about how the Dark Knight no longer amazes like Spider-Man. All it takes is one big film to swing the momentum around.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Spider-Man fans will always be Spider-Man fans (like those who post on the boards here). The fans in the GA are the ones who are more likely to have a change of heart.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

What is hard to understand is you seem to think it is simply because there are other superhero films. Not that perhaps Spider-Man is falling because his movies aren't good, while other characters are rocking it. As if quality is a complete afterthought, even while all the polls, from critics to fans, indicate that aren't so hot on these films.

Sony needs to look in the mirror and realize this is, "me not you" situation. The fans are breaking up because of the movies, not because they suddenly don't like Spider-Man.


Like fine wine. t:

People will always love Spider-Man, he's an awesome character.