The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 5

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[DarthSkywalker]

Godzilla's opening outdid expectations, but its second week plummeted.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

So ASM2 should cross 200 m.

But can it cross 210 m?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Also it looks like a photo finish for biggest 2014 superhero movie worldwide.

ASM2, Cap 2 and even DOFP could finish around 710 m.

 

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Also it looks like a photo finish for biggest 2014 superhero movie worldwide.

ASM2, Cap 2 and even DOFP could finish around 710 m.

that consider very good. i think

btw, i think TASM3 can come out during Dec 2016. there are more and more movies coming out during December have made Billions.

 

[Iceman]

I wish these films were spread out through the year. The lack of competition should go a long way to making up for the disadvantages.

 

[Wildcard]

Even if TASM 3 is released in December, it ain't gonna mean anything if it's nothing worth seeing. If it's the same deal as TASM 2, people aren't going to go for it no matter how they try to package it up.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

that consider very good. i think

btw, i think TASM3 can come out during Dec 2016. there are more and more movies coming out during December have made Billions.

Yeah, let it come out next to a Star Wars movie and Avatar 2. That will work out great.

 

[Airnick]

Yeah, let it come out next to a Star Wars movie and Avatar 2. That will work out great.

What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Cooty_Cat]

Looking back at the polls, expectations were incredibly high for a non-ensemble hero flick. Still as long as CBMs continue to make big bucks I'm happy.

 

[rayc1971]

Godzilla's opening outdid expectations, but its second week plummeted.

yea but the blow is not that bad because they went with a 160mill budget if it makes 225 domestic that looks better than a film costing 255mill grossing 205mill domestic

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Looking back at the polls, expectations were incredibly high for a non-ensemble hero flick. Still as long as CBMs continue to make big bucks I'm happy.

Sony are the ones who spent over 400mil combined on the film and it was a sequel to a film that made 752mil, of course expectations were high.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

yea but the blow is not that bad because they went with a 160mill budget if it makes 225 domestic that looks better than a film costing 255mill grossing 205mill domestic

True. Reasonable budgeting will do that for you. Godzilla still has to open in China and Japan, so around $500m is still possible. It won't be great, and doesn't show much in terms of legs, but it has a much better chance of making a profit then TASM2.

What could possibly go wrong?

Everything?

 

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Yeah, let it come out next to a Star Wars movie and Avatar 2. That will work out great.

it doesn't have to come out Dec / same slot with star wars and avatar 2. it can come out end of October like Thor 2.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

it doesn't have to come out Dec / same slot with star wars and avatar 2. it can come out end of October like Thor 2.

You are the one that brought up December, not me.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I think one of Marvel's big strenghts is intuitive smart budget spreading. Sony just had to go and shoot TASM with 3D cameras which burned a lot out of the budget, they could've used that money to improve on some faulty CGI (most of the CGI was solid but some parts with the Lizard were iffy). Ironically, TASM2 which was converted 3D looked better

 

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by spider-neil
The bottom line is Sony are making money. If and when that stops being the case they'll stop making Spidey movies. 1.4 BILLION for 2 movies when ASM2 finishes it's run not to mention home video and tv syndication.

DarthSkywalker

No they aren't.

Yes, they are. It may not be a huge amount of profit but asolutely Sony will make a profit on ASM2. If they didn't they would sell up the rights and go home. Even if Sony didn't make a profit now (which they will, however small) residuals would ensure they make a profit later. Why do you think they are so desparate to hold on to the rights?

If, according to you, they aren't making money off this movie then news of the Sony sale of the Spider-Man rights will be forthcoming.
I'm sure we'll hear news of the sale any day now. Any day...

 

[spider-neil]

I think one of Marvel's big strenghts is intuitive smart budget spreading. Sony just had to go and shoot TASM with 3D cameras which burned a lot out of the budget, they could've used that money to improve on some faulty CGI (most of the CGI was solid but some parts with the Lizard were iffy). Ironically, TASM2 which was converted 3D looked better

Yeah, that was weird.

 

[spiderman2]

Yeah, let it come out next to a Star Wars movie and Avatar 2. That will work out great.

ASM3 is 2016 isn't star wars 2015 so wouldn't a December 2016 be just avatar 2 not star wars to go agest?

 

[spiderman2]

I am interested to see how star wars does has I think the prequel turned a lot of people away.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yes, they are. It may not be a huge amount of profit but asolutely Sony will make a profit on ASM2. If they didn't they would sell up the rights and go home. Even if Sony didn't make a profit now (which they will, however small) residuals would ensure they make a profit later. Why do you think they are so desparate to hold on to the rights?

If, according to you, they aren't making money off this movie then news of the Sony sale of the Spider-Man rights will be forthcoming.
I'm sure we'll hear news of the sale any day now. Any day...

Two problems with this theory. First, you seem to assume they expected these numbers. It is clear they didn't. If we want to toss distribution and international licensing, this film probably cost them around $500m. But you will ignore that, because that is what you do.

Second, Sony can't sell Spidey because of its potential. They are clearly wasting it, but they don't exactly have many films that can make them money. But Sony is going broke, so maybe they'll be selling soon.

ASM3 is 2016 isn't star wars 2015 so wouldn't a December 2016 be just avatar 2 not star wars to go agest?

It is the first Star Wars "spin off". Probably either Boba Fett or Han Solo.

I am interested to see how star wars does has I think the prequel turned a lot of people away.

Which is why the new series in invoking the OT.

 

[spiderman2]

Oh ok didn't know about the star wars spin off will be interesting how It does compared to the star wars movies them self.

 

[Wildcard]

it doesn't have to come out Dec / same slot with star wars and avatar 2. it can come out end of October like Thor 2.

Thor 2 came out in November, though.

And I think the point is being missed...in this instance dates & the like don't matter. It's about quality, & that's something Spidey has been lacking in. Hell, I loved TASM (still do) but even I recognized it offered nothing new. That's why I was initially so excited about part two.

But, as it stands they aren't doing anything worthwhile with the character on film. Captain America, a newly established character (in the sense that he's now much more globally known) did far, far better than Spidey, who has already been established to movie goers & was a powerhouse at the box office.

That right there shows there's a huge problem with how Spider-Man is being handled film wise.

Sony does exactly what they shouldn't; pour money into movies thinking audiences are dumb enough to settle for a bunch of special effects.

Btw, why would anyone want to see how Spider-Man would do against a Star Wars movie? I'm not even a SW fan but I know that with the declining interest of the audience he's going to get crushed.

If Spidey can get beat by a comedy movie (a damn good one, I might add), what makes you think a known franchise like SW won't do worse damage? The last thing Spider-Man needs is to be pit against any movie that is guaranteed to make money.

 

[spider-neil]

Two problems with this theory. First, you seem to assume they expected these numbers. It is clear they didn't. If we want to toss distribution and international licensing, this film probably cost them around $500m. But you will ignore that, because that is what you do.

Second, Sony can't sell Spidey because of its potential. They are clearly wasting it, but they don't exactly have many films that can make them money. But Sony is going broke, so maybe they'll be selling soon.

Cute laughing smiley.
You said, Sony aren't making money. They aren't making as much as expected but they are making money. People were moaning about ASM 750m return whilst Sony green lit THREE sequels. Obviously Spidey isn't what he once was but the two Sony Webb features are on course to clear 1.4 Billion not including DVD/Blu ray, Syndication and residuals.
Sony aren't making as much as they expected or as much as they wanted but they ARE making money, if they weren't they would sell.